The DeSantis gambit

[Ziggurat]

how are they conservatives?

they explicitly reject the concept of stare decisis.

No they don't. You seem to be under some serious misconception about what stare decisis means. It does not mean that previous decisions cannot be overturned.

But this is irrelevant anyways. Even assuming you were right about the SC, that doesn't help Gulliver's claim. You're arguing that Republican judges are loyal to the Republican party, and you are claiming that their rulings demonstrate that loyalty. Gulliver is claiming that the FBI is loyal to the Republican party, but he's confused as to why the Republicans are attacking the FBI. The obvious resolution to his confusion is that, contrary to his premise, the FBI is not in fact demonstrating loyalty to the Republican party. Take away his premise, and there's no reason for confusion.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

No confusion why they are attacking the FBI - same reason why they attack the DOJ (under Trump or not), the IRS, the NIH an others:

because they can't defend themselves.

 

[Stacyhs]

DeSantis and other right-wing GOP states should be encouraged by Russia's
Duma passing anti-trans laws. It gives them something to shoot for: outlawing gender reassignment surgery for everyone.

The Russian State Duma, or lower house of parliament, has voted in favor of a new law banning nearly all medical help for transgender people including gender reassignment surgery, in a raft of new anti-LGBTQ laws in Russia.

The bill, which had its third and final reading on Friday, prohibits doctors from conducting gender reassignment surgeries, except in cases related to treating congenital physiological anomalies in children. It also restricts registry offices from amending official documents based on medical certificates of gender change.
The law must still be approved by the Federation Council and signed by President Vladimir Putin before it comes into force.

Amendments made for its third reading include disqualifying individuals who have undergone gender changes from becoming adoptive parents or guardians, as well as the possibility of annulling a marriage if one or both spouses undergo a gender change and update their civil status records.
Putin has toughened anti-LGTBQ legislation in recent months, as the Kremlin clamps down on free speech and human rights amid the war in Ukraine.

 

[dudalb]

Apparently De Santis is hiring people to campaign for him door to door, , he cannot find enough actual volunteers.
Even in the GOP few actually like the guy.

 

[Segnosaur]

Apparently De Santis is hiring people to campaign for him door to door, , he cannot find enough actual volunteers.
Even in the GOP few actually like the guy.

It's hard to hire good help these days...

From: https://gazette.com/news/wex/trump-...cle_6a2b4fdd-7873-50cc-9c8b-1d0ca7f77ea4.html
in a video obtained by Human Events, a canvasser for DeSantis's presidential campaign, dressed in a DeSantis shirt and holding campaign literature, can be seen and heard in a Charleston Ring doorbell camera video making vulgar comments on a resident's porch.

He was later recorded admitting to be under the influence of drugs

 

[bruto]

Apparently De Santis is hiring people to campaign for him door to door, , he cannot find enough actual volunteers.
Even in the GOP few actually like the guy.

Well, aside from that, knocking on doors these days...

Vote for the right to carry a military rifle and protect your castle against anyone who looks at you wrong, no no wait, not me, no wait... not me not...

A large part of Florida's population would have to be insane to knock on doors for De Santis of all people.

 

[catsmate]

Apparently De Santis is hiring people to campaign for him door to door, , he cannot find enough actual volunteers.
Even in the GOP few actually like the guy.

Is it legal to shoot such irritating trespassers in Florida? It would be a terrible, terrible, pity is someone seed the usual right-wing nutters with a theory that such "campaigners" are actually undercover Biden/BLM/Antifa terrorists in disguise......

 

[Trebuchet]

Is it legal to shoot such irritating trespassers in Florida? It would be a terrible, terrible, pity is someone seed the usual right-wing nutters with a theory that such "campaigners" are actually undercover Biden/BLM/Antifa terrorists in disguise......

It's legal to empty your AR-15 magazine at the guy working for the company you hired to clean your pool, so why not?

 

[kookbreaker]

Unsurprisingly, Desantis’ revivals of the Florida State Guard went from being an emergency response force to being a military trained force for Desantis.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/flori...state-guard-desantis-national-guard-training/

 

[shemp]

Unsurprisingly, Desantis’ revivals of the Florida State Guard went from being an emergency response force to being a military trained force for Desantis.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/flori...state-guard-desantis-national-guard-training/

Yeah, his own little private army isn't doing so well. It doesn't help matters when you assault a disabled veteran:

Disabled veteran reported abuse

The program’s first volunteers arrived in June at the National Guard’s training center at Camp Blanding.

Attendees told the Times/Herald that the training wasn’t led by Soler, the program’s director. Instead, it was led by Florida National Guard Lt. Col. Peter Jennison, a pilot, lawyer and training officer who composes music on the side, and by the State Guard’s new chief of staff, Ben Fairbrother, a former political operative who has since worked for state agencies, including the Division of Emergency Management.

A Clay County Sheriff’s Office incident report reveals that tensions simmered during training.

On the morning of June 23, a volunteer who was a retired Marine Corps captain stopped Jennison in the barracks to ask questions about the training that he felt “had not been answered,” the report states.

“So you’re the leader of the group!” Jennison responded, according to the report, pointing at the retired Marine, whose name is redacted.

Jennison was “apparently referencing one or more members who were criticizing the new organization,” the sheriff’s deputy wrote.

After asking questions, the two shook hands, and the retired Marine took the bus to the chow hall. But once there, he said he was pulled out of line by two National Guard sergeants and ordered to do pushups.

“He refused, saying, ‘No, I can’t!’ because he is 100% disabled and was in pain from a physical fitness test the day before,” the deputy’s report states.

“Then you need to leave and go home!” the sergeants yelled at him, he claimed.

He finally agreed, and a white van pulled up. Not feeling safe, he refused to get in, and he said he would walk to his car some distance away, according to the report.

As a retired officer, he was allowed to use the base. But the sergeants “grabbed him and pushed him into the van.”

“He protested that they were assaulting an officer as he tried to exit the van and was told he is not an officer, only a recruit,” the report states.

When police inquired, a National Guard lieutenant told a deputy that the retired Marine “had been questioning the program since he entered into it and was argumentative with leadership.”

Another volunteer, a retired 30-year Marine, witnessed the incident and gave a statement to police, saying the sergeants acted “rather harshly,” and that they told the alleged victim that “they didn’t care he was a retired (U.S. Marine Corps) Captain, that he was only a recruit.”

The sheriff’s deputy closed the case, determining that the retired Marine captain was not assaulted or falsely imprisoned. The former captain quit the State Guard that day. So did the witness.

I would suggest changing "closed" to "covered up."

Meanwhile, it looks like a lot of recruits who though they were going to be helping with public emergencies and rescue efforts didn't agree with the attempt to turn them into a private army:

On June 30, the State Guard graduated its first class, 120 recruits, far below the 1,500 members state lawmakers approved this year.

Jennison and Fairbrother spoke at the graduation. Soler did not attend. Neither did DeSantis, who was in Philadelphia speaking to the conservative parents’ rights group Moms for Liberty that day. His office sent a news release congratulating the graduating State Guard “soldiers.”

A week later, DeSantis’ office announced, via the conservative news outlet Florida Standard, that Soler was stepping down for “personal reasons.” Soler couldn’t be reached for comment.

The program now finds itself leaderless for the second time in less than a year. Most of the original leadership Soler appointed have quit.

DeSantis is like Trump in one way: he too has the reverse Midas touch. Everything he touches turns to ****.

 

[Stacyhs]

Unsurprisingly, Desantis’ revivals of the Florida State Guard went from being an emergency response force to being a military trained force for Desantis.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/flori...state-guard-desantis-national-guard-training/

Good lord. Well worth the read.

 

[Norman Alexander]

The Guardian has more:

Additionally, DeSantis’s compliant, Republican-led state legislature has contributed to the change of direction, this year approving a massive expansion in the force’s funding, size and equipment. Its budget increased from $10m to $107.5m, and its maximum size more than tripled from 400 recruits to 1,500.

On the governor’s shopping list were helicopters, boats, police powers and reportedly even cellphone-hacking technology for a force outside of federal jurisdiction, and accountable directly to him.

and...

The Guardian has reached out to DeSantis’s office, and state guard leadership, for comment.

The governor’s media team referred the Herald/Times to the state guard, which sent a statement from Maj Gen John D Haas, Florida’s adjutant general overseeing the state’s national guard, who said the veterans were “dismissed” from the program, and had not resigned.

“[It’s] unfortunate that some of these individuals resorted to complaints to the media,” he wrote.

“We are aware that some trainees who were removed are dissatisfied. This is to be expected with any course that demands rigor and discipline.”

Haas also seemed to confirm the veterans’ assertion that the state guard’s brief had changed. It was a “military organization”, he said, that will be used for “aiding law enforcement with riots and illegal immigration”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...tis-florida-state-guard-militia-veterans-quit

Question, General Haas: Why does the Florida police need additional military powers? Why not put the $100 million plus towards the police to do the job they are already tasked to do, rather than your private militia?

 

[Trebuchet]

I expect they'll be "defending" the polls in the next election, making sure the wrong people don't vote.

 

[tyr_13]

Unsurprisingly, Desantis’ revivals of the Florida State Guard went from being an emergency response force to being a military trained force for Desantis.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/flori...state-guard-desantis-national-guard-training/

I came here to post this same article.

I expect they'll be "defending" the polls in the next election, making sure the wrong people don't vote.

Not only in Florida, by the own rules of the Florida Guard at least.

Remember when this was being implemented and we were told we were lying hysterical leftists for saying the exact ways it could be abused? That the language meant they couldn't be armed or deployed outside the state and plenty of other states have the same thing? That it was only for natural disasters?

Well now the rules say they can be armed, can deploy outside the state, can have law enforcement powers, is training as a militia, is not training for natural disasters, and is unlike the nominally similar organizations in other states.

But remember, we're the unreasonable extremists!

 

[shemp]

The Guardian has more:


and...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...tis-florida-state-guard-militia-veterans-quit

Question, General Haas: Why does the Florida police need additional military powers? Why not put the $100 million plus towards the police to do the job they are already tasked to do, rather than your private militia?

Both questions have the same answer: Rhonda Santis and his minions are power-crazy ********. And a private army comes in handy if one decides to try to secede from the union and become Dictator of Florida.

 

[gnome]

I'm sharing it around a bit.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Both questions have the same answer: Rhonda Santis and his minions are power-crazy ********. And a private army comes in handy if one decides to try to secede from the union and become Dictator of Florida.

Build the Wall! ...across the FL panhandle.

 

[Stacyhs]

Build the Wall! ...across the FL panhandle.

Need to go just a tad farther north into Alabama.

 

[a_unique_person]

Farmer;'s Insurance, one of the really,really, big insuranc companies, pulling out of Florida because Florida law keeps them from higher rates for insuring buildings in high risk flood areas..which a lot of coastal Florida has become becuase of Global Warming. Apparently they have been waring De Santis about this for some time, hoping he would get some change made, but he refused. So now a good many Floridians will lose their insurance. Noice/

The culture wars are such a waste of time. They are really nothing more than a distraction from the real issues.

 

[dirtywick]

on the other hand, it keeps them busy. you don't want the culture warriors involved in anything more consequential.