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The case against Hillary Clinton

Funny. :D
.... he allegedly ......he allegedly ......

It's interesting that you find these criticisms "lame" but you have not disputed that they are factually true.
Ha ha. Allegations suddenly touted as "factually true", even though no evidence is there for them.
.....I believe the allegations.
Funny, again.

Going to be a lot of useless bitching for the next four years, that's foreseeable.
 
I would say that OJ Simpson allegedly murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, even though I believe it to be true. I use the word the same way here about the former president.
 
I will vote for any sick, sorry Democrat the party cares to nominate.

But I wouldn't sweat it if a moderate Republican (there must be some left; there used to be quite a few) got in, except that any Repub prez will owe too much to the right-wing idealogues still controlling so much of the GOP.

A female president? A black president? Why not? Within fifteen minutes, it would seem so ordinary.

Hitchens is always entertaining. Usually entertaining. Okay, sometimes, goddammit. Today's the primary in Michigan. I got stuff to do.
 
I would say that OJ Simpson allegedly murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, even though I believe it to be true. I use the word the same way here about the former president.
Only in this case because you substitute wishful thinking and prejudice for thought.

Very unconvincing, but funny. As said, there's obviously going to be a lot of useless whining for the next 4 years.
 
I'll give you a better source than the howler about that kook Flowers. "My Life" by Bill Clinton. He admits having an affair with her.

He admitted to one incident, not a 12 year affair as she alleged.

Anyway, Flowers is the one who went on TV claiming that clinton had ordered the murder of multiple people and she promoted the "Death List" of people Clinton had bumped off. This is the gal you are going to trust to tell you the unvarnished truth?
 
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Only in this case because you substitute wishful thinking and prejudice for thought.

Very unconvincing, but funny. As said, there's obviously going to be a lot of useless whining for the next 4 years.

Heh. I'll accept that I'm prejudiced against the generally low character of ambitious politicians. But the "wishful thinking" charge is untrue- I actually wish I believed otherwise. It's no joke that HRC has a decent shot at winning the presidency, and I would like to think more of her than I do.

The same goes for our current occupant, who proves that just because you can keep it in your pants it doesn't make you a good president.
 
The lesser of 2 evils is still evil.

I am not voting for Hillary. I would rather not vote than vote for her. I don't see being first lady as relevant experience.

She waffles on positions. She just denies the former position ever existed. I understand many politicans waffle on positions without proper explaination. I won't vote for them either.
 
He admitted to one incident, not a 12 year affair as she alleged.

Anyway, Flowers is the one who went on TV claiming that clinton had ordered the murder of multiple people and she promoted the "Death List" of people Clinton had bumped off. This is the gal you are going to trust to tell you the unvarnished truth?


I don't really care. I was just fact-checking your information which seemed to exclude the fact that there was an affair.

I don't care how ape-excrement crazy the lady is. She had an affair and all of her personal lies and life story embellishments became public because she got dragged through the mud. This is exactly what Hitchens is talking about. Why should I care why Flowers got kicked off HeeHaw? Clinton admitted the affair.
 
She waffles on positions. She just denies the former position ever existed.

Except when it suits her. She often brings up being raised in conservative Park Ridge, Illinois, and helping with the Goldwater campaign. She touts having a balanced (not too liberal) agenda thanks to her conservative past, again, when it suits her.
 
I don't really care. I was just fact-checking your information which seemed to exclude the fact that there was an affair.

I don't care how ape-excrement crazy the lady is. She had an affair and all of her personal lies and life story embellishments became public because she got dragged through the mud. This is exactly what Hitchens is talking about. Why should I care why Flowers got kicked off HeeHaw? Clinton admitted the affair.


I think we are talking past each other. My defn of the word "affair" means it implies more than a one time sexual incident. I am not claiming that Flowers and clinton did not have sex. What I am questioning is whether they had a 12 year affair like she claims they did. Flowers got dragged through the mud because she had a penchant for lying and embellishment. Her promoting Clinton as a mass-murderer is prima facia evidence of her mendacity and she has nobody to blame that on but herself. She chose to promote it (amongst her other falsehoods). Nobody held a gun to her head telling her to lie about her past. She chose to.
 
I understand that many people will vote fo Hillary because she is a Democrat or for the Republican nominee because they are Republicans. Makes me wonder why the personal lives of these people has any importance since people are not voting on the canidate but the party.

Of course people will vote for their party over the other because their party could never be as bad as the other party. In this case your not really voting for Hillary, are you?
 
I like how she adopts the accent of whichever geographical region she is preaching to. No depth of pandering is beneath her. Wonderful stuff. I look forward to the far left DNC-MoveOn mob embracing her if she wins the nomination, and swallowing their integrity. Her pro Iraq war positions are on the record and can't be undone retroactively.

By the same token, how will the republican faithful embrace the pro amnesty, anti Bush tax cuts, anti 1st amendment John "Keating 5" McCain if he wins the nomination? The suspense is killing me.
 
In case you didn't notice, there was a lot more to the article. I'd tell you to go read it, but no doubt you'd protest that you already have. But here are some of the main points, all of which are far more serious than a fable about her name's origin:

1. William Jefferson Clinton shamefully mistreated several women, including Monica Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey (who he allegedly groped in the Oval Office, while he was president), and Juannita Broderick (who he allegedly raped). Although no one disputes his sexual indiscretions, HRC knowingly lied about them to help him get elected in 1992. Although she poses as a champion of women's rights, she has also participated in the slander of these women in order to further her own ambitions.

2. She presided over the HMO debacle in the 90s, made the system worse, and now she is posing as a champion of healthcare reform.

3. As a senator, HRC supported the invasion of Iraq and the removal of Saddam Hussein. But rather than defend her previous position, she is pretending she never held it, counting on our short term memory as a tactic for winning a few percentage points in the primaries.

Although I'm willing to vote for Democrats, I never joined the party and I never will. I hope the Democrats will have more sense than to nominate her for the presidency.

You over looked Hillary’s support for the murderous Black Panther Party.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/h/hillarypanthers.htm
 
I would say that OJ Simpson allegedly murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, even though I believe it to be true. I use the word the same way here about the former president.


Except that OJ Simpson was actually found liable by a court for the deaths of Brown and Goldman.

Bill Clinton has never been found guilty or liable of any of the charges that you have leveled against him by any court or tribunal of any sort. Ever.
 
Except that OJ Simpson was actually found liable by a court for the deaths of Brown and Goldman.

Bill Clinton has never been found guilty or liable of any of the charges that you have leveled against him by any court or tribunal of any sort. Ever.

And...?

You may not approve that I don't find Bill Clinton very believable. I generally don't presume people are guilty until proven innocent- but in the case of slimy politicians, I tend to make an exception.

Keep in mind that I am not out to imprison, fine, or censure Clinton. I just don't want to vote for his wife.
 

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