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[Lonewulf]

goodness, you seem to have a pathological tendency to lie

Also, apparently, bring up his own delusions of other people's fantasies up, at random, for no reason, in threads they don't belong.

Maybe next he'll talk about how Lonewulf sounds like a black name, and thus, because I am most likely black (because he's almost never wrong), go onto a rant about how us blacks are all prone to violence.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Your link only links to the thread in general. I already linked it; but it doesn't matter in the end.

You edited after I posted.

I'm not. If I said anything, it would be that I have fetishes that involve certain things. I never was specific.

Sure it was. See my signature.

Guess you didn't notice, then. Oh well.

Maybe you mean some nobodies on hundreds or thousands of miles away sniggered at their computer because in their feeble understanding they thought something I said was amusing, However no one "laughed in my face".

Right, I mean...

The post you claimed I was responding was outside of this thread, into a thread all on its own, and was TOTALLY out of the blue.

Ah, So insulting and off topic posts that refer to posts in this thread are OK but insulting and off topic posts that refer to posts in another thread aren't?

Tu quoque: A fallacy of battling egos. How the hell do you walk with a bloated ego like your own?

"LOL YOU HAVE FANTASIES I WIN LOL!"

Man. You lost, fully and completely.

What have I lost? The only thing I've lost is my valuable time due to arguing over the internet with some 16 year old kid who has fantasies about torturing and raping people.

 

[Lonewulf]

Sure it was. See my signature.

You call that "specific"?

Sigh.

Maybe you mean some nobodies on hundreds or thousands of miles away sniggered at their computer because in their feeble understanding they thought something I said was amusing, However no one "laughed in my face".

Ah, darn. See, this is the part where you can say they all laughed at you, and then laugh maniacally.

Ah, So insulting and off topic posts that refer to posts in this thread are OK but insulting and off topic posts that refer to posts in another thread aren't?

Now you got it.

What have I lost? The only thing I've lost is my valuable time due to arguing over the internet with some 16 year old kid who has fantasies about torturing and raping people.

6 years off. I'm 22. Also, I have fantasies, yes, but not about that specifically. Try again! This is fun. Your guess on my fetish was wrong: I'll give you another chance to give it a go. Need some hints?

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

goodness, you seem to have a pathological tendency to lie

you quoted his flipping comment in your reply!




Spin that web of lies dustin! Spin Spin away!

You need to read on dear sir, as I did, my friend said that it was something called 'dysphonetic' based upon the way I read and understand words. I just learned today that it is a form of dyslexia! He didn't tell me that.

It sounds to me that you're making it up as you go along.

And your second argument is just arrogant garbage. I can't spell english because it hasn't had orthographic reform and is not a phonetic spelling but archaic forms that were standardized randomly when there were multiple spelling of the words.

I can spell English just fine though. Why can I and you can't?

In his initial assertion I drew into question his changing story about "just learning" that he has dyslexia specifically because 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' wouldn't affect his ability to actually spell words simply his ability to sound them out. 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' is a form of auditory dyslexia while "Dyseidetic dyslexia" is is the type of dyslexia that would hinder spelling. If someone with 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' has a problem spelling then it's likely a phonics problem not related to that individuals dyslexia.

http://www.dyslexia.com/qasymptoms.htm#d981130


In the second part of his post I said "I can spell English just fine though. Why can I and you can't?" because he was making up excuses SEPARATE from the dyslexia which involved the inherent traits of the English language.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Except I question whether even HE comprehends his own posts.

Ah yes. When you lose you resort to insults. The Buddha tells me that this conversation will end poorly.

That's what I've been saying.

What? All you've been talking about is trying to label everyone. You've also displayed a wonderful ability to distort arguments all around.

That "give the most meaning" to Buddhism? How subjective is that?

Says who? "Most people"?

Not at all. The four noble truths set up the basis for Buddhism. They also set up the purpose and methods.

Elaborate.

Either spend ten minutes educating yourself, or post your uneducated rebuttal of the four truths and eightfold path.

Let's break it down into simple parts..

1. Buddhists claim that "Suffering"(all suffering) is caused by desire or urge.
2. You brought up the example of "auto-erotic asphyxiation".
3. That isn't example of suffering being caused by an urge or desire.
4. Even assuming it is, a single example which doesn't jive with what Buddhism says about suffering in general.

I never claimed that physical pain is the cause of all suffering. Physical pain CAN be a cause of some sufferings though.

Is your fetish torturing conversations? Auto-erotic asphyxiation is far from suffering, yet still includes physical pain. This demonstrates that physical pain does not have to lead to suffering, and is not the cause of it.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Hm, assuming more and more things about people without proper evidence, Dustin Kesselberg?

C'mon, guess my fetish along with my religion and disorder !

 

[Lonewulf]

Hm, assuming more and more things about people without proper evidence, Dustin Kesselberg?

He does that often.

But he's almost always right. He told me himself!

Right after he "put" me in my "place" (yes, he actually said that once). And then went off to argue with a bunch of "nobodies on hundreds or thousands of miles away". I think some sneering and condescension was involved, I'm not sure.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Not at all. The four noble truths set up the basis for Buddhism. They also set up the purpose and methods.

Didn't answer the question.

Either spend ten minutes educating yourself, or post your uneducated rebuttal of the four truths and eightfold path.

Already have.

Is your fetish torturing conversations? Auto-erotic asphyxiation is far from suffering, yet still includes physical pain. This demonstrates that physical pain does not have to lead to suffering, and is not the cause of it.

"Auto-erotic asphyxiation" might be both painful and pleasurable (I wouldn't know) and might be a single example of how "Pain" doesn't necessarily lead to "Suffering" however again, this is a single example and is totally off topic from my initial criticism of the Buddhists claim that "Suffering"(all suffering) is caused by desire or urge.

 

[qayak]

In his initial assertion I drew into question his changing story about "just learning" that he has dyslexia specifically because 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' wouldn't affect his ability to actually spell words simply his ability to sound them out. 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' is a form of auditory dyslexia while "Dyseidetic dyslexia" is is the type of dyslexia that would hinder spelling. If someone with 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' has a problem spelling then it's likely a phonics problem not related to that individuals dyslexia.

My daughter has auditory dyslexia and her spelling is terrible. Mostly not even close enough to use a spell check program. It hinges on the fact that she cannot hear the subtleties of speech and if she cannot hear the sound she does not know which letter should be put in when spelling the word. In my daughter's case it is a direct result of her auditory dyslexia.

Her's is thought to have been caused by the constant upper respitory and inner ear infections she suffered as a child.

 

[andyandy]

In his initial assertion I drew into question his changing story about "just learning" that he has dyslexia specifically because 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' wouldn't affect his ability to actually spell words simply his ability to sound them out. 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' is a form of auditory dyslexia while "Dyseidetic dyslexia" is is the type of dyslexia that would hinder spelling. If someone with 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' has a problem spelling then it's likely a phonics problem not related to that individuals dyslexia.

http://www.dyslexia.com/qasymptoms.htm#d981130


In the second part of his post I said "I can spell English just fine though. Why can I and you can't?" because he was making up excuses SEPARATE from the dyslexia which involved the inherent traits of the English language.

ah, the shifting shifting sands.....

first you deny posting derogatory comments after david had told you he had dyslexia

then you say, well, yes your post was made after he'd told you, but you hadn't read his comments

now your saying that yes, actually he did tell you about having dyslexia - but you chose not to believe him.

 

[Lonewulf]

ah, the shifting shifting sands.....

first you deny posting derogatory comments after david had told you he had dyslexia

then you say, well, yes your post was made after he'd told you, but you hadn't read his comments

now your saying that yes, actually he did tell you about having dyslexia - but you chose not to believe him.

You can't be wrong if you change reality!

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Didn't answer the question.





Already have.



"Auto-erotic asphyxiation" might be both painful and pleasurable (I wouldn't know) and might be a single example of how "Pain" doesn't necessarily lead to "Suffering" however again, this is a single example and is totally off topic from my initial criticism of the Buddhists claim that "Suffering"(all suffering) is caused by desire or urge.

If there is one thing worse than an ignoramus it is a willful ignoramus with a bloated ego. You seem so intent on quibling about every tiny aspect that you are blind to the larger picture. You can't see the forest for the trees. Holding a conversation with you is like banging my head against a wall. The wall doesn't move and all I've succeeded in doing is wasting my time.

So I will once again bring to your attention "Buddhism Without Belief" and "Buddhism for the Modern Skeptic". If you ever have the desire to educate yourself and correct your novice misunderstandings, then study beyond mere Wiki pages.

However, I am not worming out of being proven wrong, as you have done many times. To correct you, here is the writting of Thich Nhat Hanh in "The Heart of the Buddha's Teaching":

Another common misunderstanding of the Buddha's teaching is that all of our suffering is caused by craving. In the Discourse on Turning the Wheel od the Dharma, the Buddha did say that craning is the cause of suffering, but he said this because craving is the first on the list of affliction...

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

ah, the shifting shifting sands.....

first you deny posting derogatory comments after david had told you he had dyslexia

then you say, well, yes your post was made after he'd told you, but you hadn't read his comments

now your saying that yes, actually he did tell you about having dyslexia - but you chose not to believe him.

He doesn't have dyslexia. And EVEN IF he does have the dyslexia he claims he has, it wouldn't affect his ability to spell.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Tsukasa Buddha, Unless you respond to my actual post addressing every point, I won't respond to yours.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Tsukasa Buddha, Unless you respond to my actual post addressing every point, I won't respond to yours.

So now you will ignore information because you don't like the format? Great.

1. The primary teachings of the Buddha consist of the four truths. These set the purpose of Buddhism and the methodology of Buddhism. These are the fundamentals that link all forms of Buddhism and are the most similarly interpreted.

2. If you haven't read what I gave you a link to, then you refuse to properly educate yourself. You choose to remain in ignorance. If you want to attempt to refute Buddhism before even comprehending it, be my guest. But to do so is an exercise in futility.

3. The second truth is the cause of suffering. That all suffering is caused by craving is a common misunderstanding.

 

[Taffer]

My god...

Dustin, as always, you show yourself to be an ignorant bigot and are not worth replying to anymore. And for the record, I laughed quite a lot when you claimed Lonewulf to have "rape fantasies". Also when you proclaimed victory because of it. Ad hom much?

Onemind, your arguments against "mainstream" Buddhism may be correct, but not all Buddhists believe those things.

Yrreg, go away. Also, I am unsure what you mean by "Sapienti pauca". I was under the impression it was a musical term. Also, I never claimed it was originally metaphorical, only that it can be interpreted as such.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

My god...

What God?

Dustin, as always, you show yourself to be an ignorant bigot and are not worth replying to anymore.

How's that?

Onemind, your arguments against "mainstream" Buddhism may be correct, but not all Buddhists believe those things.

This has been addressed dozens of times in this thread. Do yourself a favor. Read the thread and stop making dumb comments.

 

[Lonewulf]

How's that?

LOL! YOU HAVE FANTASIES I FIND OBJECTIONABLE! I WIN THE ARGUMENT!

Yeah, okay.

 

[Lonewulf]

I just saw this one:

He's a condescending **** is what he is.

What, seriously? You're not condescending at all? Haha.

Reading his posts is sort of like watching a midget threaten Andre the Giant.

Ego ego ego.

Read my signature and the thread where he brags about having fantasies about raping people.

Eh, wrong. Again.

 

[Taffer]

What God?

It's a figure of speech.

How's that?

"Bigot: n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."

Sounds about right to me...

This has been addressed dozens of times in this thread. Do yourself a favor. Read the thread and stop making dumb comments.

I have read this thread, Dustin. I have read it right from the start, you may notice. I have yet to see this addressed. But by all means, please quote where it has been addressed, so I may see the error of my ways.