Cont: The Biden Presidency (4)

It's going...somewhere. No doubt Hunter Biden will end up testifying. Only, he is still getting a CA court case. Therefore he can take the 5th because there is an "ongoing case" with his income taxes. Which relate to his business.
 
The fact that the house achieved nothing does not seem to bother them. They already got what they wanted by doing nothing: cut Ukraine funding. Senate is doing rather useless work. And Biden will be blamed.

House unwilling to vote on border deals:
-because Democrats would gain something
-Trump must be president when they are ready to pass border plan
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...order-aid-talks-continue-senators-2023-12-14/
 
Tero said:
The republicans keep parroting that we have open borders. However, despite the post-pandemic crowd headed North from Venezuela, we also have more arrests than the Trump years. So we cannot have arrests and open borders at the same time. They can still complain about "catch and release." Chart in this "tweet"
https://www.threads.net/@esa55jarvi/post/C0xkn9euKLJ
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At this point, on the "open borders" BS, I've begun making a simple (or maybe not so simple) observation.

What propaganda do human traffickers use to drum up business? "Open borders." It's decidedly false, but the Republican propaganda machine does collude with them to spread such.

Coincidence? Remember the Republican "Remain in Mexico" policy? If you're going to force the vulnerable to stay in human trafficker areas and greatly increase the appeal of human traffickers to the vulnerable (who you also helped attract to be there in the first place), that's a huge benefit for the human traffickers. Even more so when Republicans cut anti-human trafficking investigation/enforcement. Human traffickers that are frequently there in the first place because of Republicans. Any token Republican efforts to oppose human trafficking are effectively done to mislead when their efforts are just that beneficial to the human traffickers. The Republican politicians want the issue and they want to benefit from it, so they do the usual Republican thing of actively encouraging the problem to become worse while taking showy but not very effective efforts to address it and loudly working to divert attention and blame towards their political rivals who actually are working to address the actual problems.

Going a bit further, illegal immigration is primarily driven/incentivized by Republican employers who want super cheap labor. This might seem odd to those who have fallen for the Republican propaganda about Republicans opposing illegal immigration, but, well, actions speak louder than words. What Republicans actually opposed was Democratic efforts at fairness in pay and rights for those who are contributing to our country's success (like they do across the board). As a general matter, big business owners are who Republican politicians support, not the "little people." By vilifying and isolating the vulnerable, Republicans have kept that group weak, scared, and very exploitable, while also distracting and dividing the rest of those they are working to exploit. More recently, of course, more Republicans who fell for the deceptive propaganda or are those like white supremacists who are more than happy to take it much further have been aided into power by the deception and are more actively sabotaging the country on that front.
 
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Illegal immigration, and the border wall are a crisis whenever there is a POTUS with a "D" behind his name, and no big deal when there is a POTUS with an "R" behind his name.

See: national debt/deficit for same.
 
lobosrul5 said:
Illegal immigration, and the border wall are a crisis whenever there is a POTUS with a "D" behind his name, and no big deal when there is a POTUS with an "R" behind his name.

See: national debt/deficit for same.
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"it's only wrong when a Liberal/Democrat/Porg does it."
 
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Business as usual
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Is the implication that if money weren't given to Israel it would be used for universal healthcare in the US? Because I'm pretty sure affording healthcare is going to be an issue for Americans whether Israel gets money or not.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Is the implication that if money weren't given to Israel it would be used for universal healthcare in the US? Because I'm pretty sure affording healthcare is going to be an issue for Americans whether Israel gets money or not.
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Aid to Israel is a miniscule amount compared to US healthcare spending. Keeping it privitized for non government workers, non indigent people, who are under 65 is about protecting profit. Not saving money.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Is the implication that if money weren't given to Israel it would be used for universal healthcare in the US? Because I'm pretty sure affording healthcare is going to be an issue for Americans whether Israel gets money or not.
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Yeah... It's pretty much the same as all the rest of those arguments complaining about how we should be spending on healthcare and good internal things instead of X. Sure, it could be nice, but it's nigh certain that that money would *not* be spent that way even if it wasn't being used for X. Especially while Republicans have power over any part of the process, which they do.
 
Biden tax plan analysis. Of the items listed I do not support the estate tax ideas of theirs, but otherwise they do not see Biden plan as "socialist." It is pretty middle of the road.

"Biden just helps poor people and minorities." Well, no. These plans help the upper middle class to the middle class and tax the ultra wealthy.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/feder...a-needed-course-correction-as-2025-tax-debate

"Biden just helps poor people and minorities." Well, no. These plans help the upper middle calss to the middle class and tax the ultra wealthy.

These proposed reforms to the corporate and high-income provisions of the tax code — beyond considerations of the 2017 law provisions that are scheduled to expire — belong at the center of the coming tax debates. They would generate substantial progressive revenue that the U.S. could use to fund key national priorities such as an expanded Child Tax Credit and policies to make health care and housing more affordable.

The President’s budget is a critical opening marker for a broad and robust debate leading up to the 2025 expirations of the 2017 tax law’s provisions. That debate should weigh which provisions should expire, how corporate and high-income provisions should be reformed, how to ensure the wealthiest people in the country pay a reasonable amount of individual income taxes each year, and what national priorities those funds should pay for.
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Source claims these goals for the "center" Our History
In 1981, Robert Greenstein founded the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP) to analyze federal budget priorities, with a particular focus on how budget choices affect people with low incomes. In the Center’s early years, we focused on federal budget and tax issues, nutrition programs, and income assistance.
 
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TragicMonkey said:
Is the implication that if money weren't given to Israel it would be used for universal healthcare in the US? Because I'm pretty sure affording healthcare is going to be an issue for Americans whether Israel gets money or not.
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Aridas said:
It's pretty much the same as all the rest of those arguments complaining about how we should be spending on healthcare and good internal things instead of X. Sure, it could be nice, but it's nigh certain that that money would *not* be spent that way even if it wasn't being used for X.
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I didn't create the sign on the truck, but my interpretation of it would be as an illustration of the standard WDC pattern of "thought" about spending.

Anything that would do ordinary people any good: But that'll cost so much! How in the world would you pay for that? Where in the world would you find the money for that! There just isn't enough money!

Foreign wars & genocides: Money is no obstacle at all! This is such an urgent priority that it simply must be done, no matter what! It's beyond just the fact that no amount of money could be too much; it's that that's not even a question at all and there's no reason for money to even momentarily cross our minds! Nothing could be less relevant than money for this all-important project! It practically doesn't exist!
 
Delvo said:
I didn't create the sign on the truck, but my interpretation of it would be as an illustration of the standard WDC pattern of "thought" about spending.
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WDC?

Delvo said:
Anything that would do ordinary people any good: But that'll cost so much! How in the world would you pay for that? Where in the world would you find the money for that! There just isn't enough money!

Foreign wars & genocides: Money is no obstacle at all! This is such an urgent priority that it simply must be done, no matter what! It's beyond just the fact that no amount of money could be too much; it's that that's not even a question at all and there's no reason for money to even momentarily cross our minds! Nothing could be less relevant than money for this all-important project! It practically doesn't exist!
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Understandable, of course. It's just that misidentifying cause and effect *really* doesn't help with dealing with the actual issues in play that have led to the problems and can easily just make things worse as scapegoats are focused upon instead of the actual problems.
 
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Thought there was quite a lot of shouty presentation, Biden gave a good speech. It will affect a good number of independents. But polling will take a while to react. Only 30 million heard the speech. So with all the trumpsters giving a bad rating, polling won't change.
 
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