Cont: The Biden Presidency (4)

carlosy said:
Biden 2020: There Will Not Be Another Foot Of Wall Constructed In My Administration
Biden 2023: We need more wall



Biden's border U-turn
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At last check, Biden's stated that he does not really want to do this and that he doesn't think that it'll actually do anything to help. The money in play was specifically assigned to this purpose by Congress (during the Trump Administration, I think) and, like with a fair few other unpleasant things that they've done, the Biden Administration can reasonably be said to be upholding their inherited legal and contractual responsibilities, whether they like it or not.

With that said, if a number of important laws are going to be trampled upon for further building of the wall, that's still plenty problematic.

Hercules56 said:
Border fencing, in certain locations, is definitely useful as part of a comprehensive strategy to stop illegal aliens.
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Sure. And it's already been built where it would be meaningfully useful. As a sort of general matter, Democrats aren't actually against border fencing/walls, period. We're against wildly inefficient boondoggles, trampling beneficial rights, "solutions" that make the actual problems worse and prevent attention and resources from going to things that would actually help, and the like.
 
Aridas said:
Adding a little more context -

At last check, Biden's stated that he does not really want to do this and that he doesn't think that it'll actually do anything to help. The money in play was specifically assigned to this purpose by Congress (during the Trump Administration, I think) and, like with a fair few other unpleasant things that they've done, the Biden Administration can reasonably be said to be upholding their inherited legal and contractual responsibilities, whether they like it or not.

With that said, if a number of important laws are going to be trampled upon for further building of the wall, that's still plenty problematic.



Sure. And it's already been built where it would be meaningfully useful. As a sort of general matter, Democrats aren't actually against border fencing/walls, period. We're against wildly inefficient boondoggles, trampling beneficial rights, "solutions" that make the actual problems worse and prevent attention and resources from going to things that would actually help, and the like.
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Biden position is that he does not like the wall at all, but feels he has no power to defund something congress has funded and has been signed into law.
I suspect he probably could find some flimsy justification for holding back the funds, but has IMHO wisely, deciced it is not worth the political fight that would cause.
 
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dudalb said:
Biden position is that he does not like the wall at all, but feels he has no power to defund something congress has funded and has been signed into law.
I suspect he probably could find some flimsy justification for holding back the funds, but has IMHO wisely, deciced it is not worth the political fight that would cause.
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Apparently the new wall is “portable”. Also only 18 foot tall.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-claims-choice-build-trumps-border-wall/story?id=103757017

Biden might be trying some malicious compliance.
 
As a little sorta puff thing -

Gen. Milley: Public can 'rest easy' on Biden's decision-making

O’Donnell: President Joe Biden has been portrayed by his political opponents and even some of his allies as too old to be president. I’m not asking for your political opinion here, but how does he seem to you?

Milley: Look, I’m not going to comment. I didn't comment on the former president's mental health, physical health, and I'm not going to comment on the current president's mental health or physical health. I think that's highly inappropriate for the senior officer of the United States military to do that.

I would just tell you that I meet frequently with the president, and every single time I meet with him, he is just fine.

How people interpret that is up to them, but I engage with him frequently and [he’s] alert, sound, does his homework, reads the papers, reads all the read-ahead material. And he's very, very engaging in issues of very serious matters of war and peace and life and death. So if the American people are worried about an individual who is, you know, someone who's making decisions of war and peace and has access to, you know, makes the decisions of nuclear weapons and that sort of thing, I think they can rest easy.
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In short, the media pushed its usual Biden old question/framing and the General quietly and indirectly pointed out how utterly inane it is to be focusing on Biden's age rather than his competence and comparing that directly to Trump's constant failures to demonstrate even the most basic competence.
 
Biden now has a massive new crisis on his hands.
He is siding with Israel. He really has no choice given these massive attacks and that Americans have been killed. If the reports are vefified that US Citizens have been taken hostage, we might have a new war on our hands.
I hate bibb and the nut jobs in his government, but we hqave no choice.
One thingk it has united Israel.
 
dudalb said:
Biden now has a massive new crisis on his hands.
He is siding with Israel. He really has no choice given these massive attacks and that Americans have been killed. If the reports are vefified that US Citizens have been taken hostage, we might have a new war on our hands.
I hate bibb and the nut jobs in his government, but we hqave no choice.
One thingk it has united Israel.
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Do we know that Americans have been killed?
 
Stacyhs said:
Do we know that Americans have been killed?
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Yes, State Department confirmed it.
And there might be American Hostages.
Frankly, the Pro Palestianins Progs have taken a body blow here.that disgusting foorage of HAMAS taking hostages has doomed them.
 
White House announced at least 4 Americans killed in Israel, the count likely to rise.
 
While I am critical of Israel's policy regarding the Palestinians, Hamas' attack on Israel is cowardly and disgusting. I really don't know what they think this will accomplish.
 
Really seems like an overestimation how much the general public cares about a foreign war that doesn't involve the US directly.

The Zionist lobby has huge purchase among the elite American political, and that will dictate our response, but I'm not seeing any desire from the public for the US getting further embroiled in another foreign military affair at the moment. Rabid right wingers will be creaming their jeans at the prospect of the Israeli ethno-state cleansing out their Arab population, which will only make this foreign affair seem even less attractive to normal people.
 
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Biden just stated that Americans are :Probably" among the Hostages.
Which can be taken as an confirmation that there are American Hostages.
You support HAMAS after t his, you are as big a traitor to this country as the people who stromed the Capitol on Jan.6th.
 
TurkeysGhost said:
Really seems like an overestimation how much the general public cares about a foreign war that doesn't involve the US directly.

The Zionist lobby has huge purchase among the elite American political, and that will dictate our response, but I'm not seeing any desire from the public for the US getting further embroiled in another foreign military affair at the moment. Rabid right wingers will be creaming their jeans at the prospect of the Israeli ethno-state cleansing out their Arab population, which will only make this foreign affair seem even less attractive to normal people.
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You took alot of words to say "Death To The Zioinist Entity".
 
The Great Zaganza said:
nope, he didn't.

It's just that most people here seem to think that you can't criticise Israel without wholeheartedly endorsing Hamas.
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It's the classic motte and baily of Zionist apologists. Whatever atrocity is committed against the Palestinian population is justified because Hamas or Hezbollah or some other Arab state/organization is villainous.

Israel bombs out apartment buildings and, if anyone complains, rightly points out how brutal and unsavory Hamas is. Seems like a nonsequitor to complain about Hamas while attacking plainly civilian targets, but it seems to work for whatever reason.

The dogwhistle is starting to drop pitch into normal hearing range in this conflict though. Everyone understands what is meant by "eradicating" Hamas and then indiscriminately bombing residential neighborhoods. Israel is making it quite clear that they don't think there is a distinction between Hamas militants and the 2+ million population of Gaza.
 
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To try and keep things roughly on-topic, this is what a "both sides are bad" situation looks like. The concept of "unprovoked attack" applies to nothing here, everything is an act of justified revenge for an act of justified revenge going back eighty years. Both governments are set up to benefit from the indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians, so that's what's going to happen.

A very different arrangement from the US situation of Republicans trying to burn the house down vs Democrats trying to hide the matches.
 
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Beelzebuddy said:
To try and keep things roughly on-topic, this is what a "both sides are bad" situation looks like. The concept of "unprovoked attack" applies to nothing here, everything is an act of justified revenge for an act of justified revenge going back eighty years. Both governments are set up to benefit from the indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians, so that's what's going to happen.

A very different arrangement from the US situation of Republicans trying to burn the house down vs Democrats trying to hide the matches.
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So what should Isreal do? Let HAMAS get away with it?
Thank heaven we have some liberals like BIden who get what is giong on, and no doubt the will take heat from the Left Wing of his own party who seem willing to undermine BIdne and Let Trump in again. I wonder if acclerationsim is not at work here.
Problem is you never question Left Wing Dogma. It ia religion to you.
If the footage wehave seen of what HAMAS did does not indicate who is the evil force here, you are truly blind. And i the worst kind of blindness..self inflcited blindness.
 
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