Cont: The Biden Presidency (3)

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Ziggurat said:
Biden's mental fitness was asserted without evidence. You're only pretending to be objective.
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Ziggurat said:
Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
But it should be noted that there isn’t even a shred of credible evidence that the President did anything wrong. He hasn't obstructed the investigation into his son
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No need. He's got proxies to do that for him.
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You really can't see it, can you?
 
TurkeysGhost said:
My "appearance of impropriety" is more to do with Joe Biden. Hunter is his immediate family member and seems to be cashing in on the proximity to power. It's not like he has any marketable qualities of his own to justify such a cushy job.

The whole thing stinks like ****.
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Who says what Hunter did was not stinky as crap? But again, what does that have to do with JOE Biden? He is not responsible for what his adult son did no matter how badly the right-wing wants to make it so.
 
Stacyhs said:
Who says what Hunter did was not stinky as crap? But again, what does that have to do with JOE Biden? He is not responsible for what his adult son did no matter how badly the right-wing wants to make it so.
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Nothing at all, my original comment conceded that. This whole thing is obviously a fishing expedition and if these weirdos had any real evidence tying Joe to his fail-son's shady business dealings they would have said so by now. I guess there's always a slim chance that they might uncover something in these investigations, but it strikes me as extremely unlikely and not really necessary for them to have whatever intended political benefit these right wing freaks are seeking.

My point was that about how the normal amount of nepotism and corruption in our government undermines the ability of Trump's opposition to get the full benefit of his own corruption scandals. The right is wildly overplaying this whole Hunter thing, but there is a nugget of truth at the core of this ridiculous conspiracy theory. There's a reason why the whole populist shtick of "drain the swamp" was so effective, and while Trump himself was so laughably corrupt, it doesn't mean the general message wasn't more or less correct.
 
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TurkeysGhost said:
Nothing at all, my original comment conceded that. This whole thing is obviously a fishing expedition and if these weirdos had any real evidence tying Joe to his fail-son's shady business dealings they would have said so by now. I guess there's always a slim chance that they might uncover something in these investigations, but it strikes me as extremely unlikely and not really necessary for them to have whatever intended political benefit these right wing freaks are seeking.

My point was that about how the normal amount of nepotism and corruption in our government undermines the ability of Trump's opposition to get the full benefit of his own corruption scandals. The right is wildly overplaying this whole Hunter thing, but there is a nugget of truth at the core of this ridiculous conspiracy theory.
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That Hunter was unethical and broke the law is not a 'nugget of truth' in the conspiracy theory that Joe was involved in or had any knowledge of it.
 
acbytesla said:
One of my neighbors is generally a nice lady but she still thinks Trump won and that Hunter is guilty. Never mind she can't even say what Hunter is guilty of.
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"Corruption"

That's all they ever say.

Why is Biden going to be impeached? All the corruption!!!!

What corruption are you talking about?

You know, all that corrupt stuff. Billions of dollars from the Ukraine. Hunter's laptop. Buresma. It's all corrupt!
 
pgwenthold said:
"Corruption"

That's all they ever say.

Why is Biden going to be impeached? All the corruption!!!!

What corruption are you talking about?

You know, all that corrupt stuff. Billions of dollars from the Ukraine. Hunter's laptop. Buresma. It's all corrupt!
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At the very, very worst, the Biden "crime family" is equal to "Trump/Kushner crime family". Then we can add on all the other stuff Trump has done that is actually, demonstrably, and (lets hope) provably illegal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...inces-rise-trump-kushner-benefit-saudi-funds/
 
lobosrul5 said:
At the very, very worst, the Biden "crime family" is equal to "Trump/Kushner crime family". Then we can add on all the other stuff Trump has done that is actually, demonstrably, and (lets hope) provably illegal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...inces-rise-trump-kushner-benefit-saudi-funds/
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Equal? You're kidding.

Trump has been indicted on 91 counts. There is the money Kushner received from the Saudis and many many many more highly questionable acts of his relatives and the Trump organization. Trump was using the Presidency to grift even before he was President. There was his inaugural. There was space at Trump Tower and golf memberships that he grossly overcharged for. There was his phony foundation. His fake university. There was his wall. The Post Office in DC that he turned into a hotel.

And what exactly did Biden do?
 
acbytesla said:
Equal? You're kidding.

Trump has been indicted on 91 counts. There is the money Kushner received from the Saudis and many many many more highly questionable acts of his relatives and the Trump organization. Trump was using the Presidency to grift even before he was President. There was his inaugural. There was space at Trump Tower and golf memberships that he grossly overcharged for. There was his phony foundation. His fake university. There was his wall. The Post Office in DC that he turned into a hotel.

And what exactly did Biden do?
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You misunderstood me. Jared Kushner has gotten large foreign payments off the Trump family connection similar to Hunter Biden. Whether the Donald or Joe Biden actually made good on such connections is not proven.

AND THEN There is all the actual illegal stuff Trump has been charged with.

The GoP pundits and politicians complaining of hypocrisy, ala how come Biden hasn't been charged while Trump has are full of fetid streaming piles of ****. Trumps charges have nothing to do with Kushner getting huge payments from the Sauds.
 
lobosrul5 said:
You misunderstood me. Jared Kushner has gotten large foreign payments off the Trump family connection similar to Hunter Biden. Whether the Donald or Joe Biden actually made good on such connections is not proven.

AND THEN There is all the actual illegal stuff Trump has been charged with.

The GoP pundits and politicians complaining of hypocrisy, ala how come Biden hasn't been charged while Trump has are full of fetid streaming piles of ****. Trumps charges have nothing to do with Kushner getting huge payments from the Sauds.
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There is nothing similar at all. Kushner received TWO BILLION dollars. Remind us what Hunter Biden received
 
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please draw a picture of a proxy and post it here? I've never seen one, and they seem to be SO important to the Brandon administration. Do they resemble Minions?

Or a lackey. Can you post a pic of one of those? I imagine something like Gollum, but I just don't know! It's awfully frustrating, won't you help?
 
acbytesla said:
There is nothing similar at all. Kushner received TWO BILLION dollars. Remind us what Hunter Biden received
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About 11 mil in all.., are you just in a feisty argumentative mood or something?? Like I said at the very very worst, Hunter and Jared might be comparable... I'll stress that word again: might be. The charges against Trump are not comparable either way... was my main point that I suppose has been lost. And that's the maga crowds only defense... and something abou5 Stacy Abrams.
 
lobosrul5 said:
About 11 mil in all.., are you just in a feisty argumentative mood or something?? Like I said at the very very worst, Hunter and Jared might be comparable... I'll stress that word again: might be. The charges against Trump are not comparable either way... was my main point that I suppose has been lost. And that's the maga crowds only defense... and something abou5 Stacy Abrams.
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Feisty? It has nothing to do with that really. It has to do with the gaslighting trap I fear you have fallen into. You are repeating right wing talking points and are suggesting a false equivalence.

They are not comparable so why entertain that they "might be?"
 
sackett said:
please draw a picture of a proxy and post it here? I've never seen one, and they seem to be SO important to the Brandon administration. Do they resemble Minions?

Or a lackey. Can you post a pic of one of those? I imagine something like Gollum, but I just don't know! It's awfully frustrating, won't you help?
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:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
lobosrul5 said:
About 11 mil in all.., are you just in a feisty argumentative mood or something?? Like I said at the very very worst, Hunter and Jared might be comparable... I'll stress that word again: might be. The charges against Trump are not comparable either way... was my main point that I suppose has been lost. And that's the maga crowds only defense... and something abou5 Stacy Abrams.
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Interested in how you came up with this amount.
 
lobosrul5 said:
About 11 mil in all.., are you just in a feisty argumentative mood or something?? Like I said at the very very worst, Hunter and Jared might be comparable... I'll stress that word again: might be. The charges against Trump are not comparable either way... was my main point that I suppose has been lost. And that's the maga crowds only defense... and something abou5 Stacy Abrams.
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ZiprHead said:
Interested in how you came up with this amount.
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Yes, I wondered that too. That number is far in excess of the figures I have read.
 
11 million over 5 years and did that include the uncle's share?

Not an important point mind you as Joe had no part in it.
 
Stacyhs said:
That Hunter was unethical and broke the law is not a 'nugget of truth' in the conspiracy theory that Joe was involved in or had any knowledge of it.
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The nugget of truth is that Hunter is corruptly enriching himself by virtue of his close familial ties to a US politician.
 
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