Cont: The Biden Presidency (3)

[Delvo]

The most effective form of communication/messaging would have been through actions.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

The most effective form of communication/messaging would have been through actions.

Doesn't help that the Democrats of today are generally ambivalent, if not outright opposed, to things that actually decrease the precarity of working class Americans. Organized labor, government intervention and influence in the market, and a robust social safety nets are anathema for our neoliberal party leadership.

 

[Random]

If we're going for "Congress can," then Congress can also just decide there ought to be 13 seats, one for every Circuit, and flip the court to a liberal majority.

No particular reason to have a set number of judges at all. Picking a new Supreme Court Justice every two years regardless of number of seated justices might sound like a weird idea at first, but well, why not?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Is there any mechanism by which recusal can be forced on a Supreme Court Justice?

No but I think the legislation submitted for a vote had a mechanism to embarrass them if it recommends recusal and they don't.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

An exploration of the unavoidable problem of Biden's advanced age:

Biden’s answer to voters who question whether he’s up to the rigors of a second term is simple: “Watch me.” The trouble is, voters are watching, and what they’re seeing is hardening impressions that it’s time for him to step aside, polling shows. Apart from being the most taxing job on the world stage, the presidency is also the most public, and signs of advancing age are tough to miss.

Apparent to anyone paying attention is that the Biden they may remember from the Robert Bork Supreme Court confirmation hearings of 1987, or the vice presidential debate with Sarah Palin in 2008, is a different man today. His gait is less steady, his speech not as fluid. He has confused Iraq with Ukraine and Rolling Fork, Mississippi, with “Rolling Stone.” At a conference last year, he looked out at the audience and called for a congresswoman who had recently died in a car crash.

“The Democratic Party needs to be responsive to what people are saying about Biden and their concerns that they have with his age,” said one congressional Democrat, speaking on condition of anonymity to talk freely about the president’s fitness. “The number of text messages that I got after the president fell … I mean, my phone was blowing up. People are like, ‘Oh, this is so bad.’”

Silver lining being that Republicans won't be able to capitalize as much on geriatric Biden if Trump, who is likewise not the picture of youthful health, is their candidate.

It doesn’t hurt that Biden may be heading toward a rematch with Trump. Trump’s own fitness came into question during his term when he walked haltingly down a ramp at West Point and used two hands to drink a glass of water. A physical exam released in 2019 showed that Trump was clinically obese at 243 pounds, though in “very good” health overall, according to his doctor.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/joe-biden-age-re-election-short-stairs-air-force-one-rcna95355

People worry about his physical frailty and running from age 82 to 86” — the age Biden would be at the end of a second term. “That is really old by European standards. Really, really old. We don’t have anyone that age.”

Absolutely insane. Betting the farm on the octogenarian continuing to stay alive and healthy enough to perform this extremely demanding job, or at the very least not drop dead until after the election is won.

 

[Stacyhs]

I was pretty clear as to what I was talking about. Democrats that have nostalgia for what can vaguely be called the Clinton/Obama era. I don't conform to or even consult the "Urban Dictionary" style and usage guide when making an offhand description.

You want a source for that? I'm the source. It was me using a phrase within a specific context.

That's a whole lot of words for saying "I don't have a source, I just made up my own definition."

Your use of BlueMAGA as a definition for Beelzebuddy's rant about centrists being "not big-C Conservatives, but conservatives," and wanting the way things were in the mid-nineties is not what BlueMAGA means by ANY sourced definition, Urban Dictionary or not. And I gave another source that was NOT the Urban Dictionary.

I can't imagine the kind of narrow understanding of language would cause a person to see an obvious easy to parody term like this and then think some random definition given by "apathetic_ny" as useful much less authoritative.

I can't imagine the kind of understanding of language that thinks just making up a definition of a word or phrase is defensible.

To be fair "apathetic ny" has quite the career as a lexicographer. Three Urban Dictionary entries. This, one about Rick Scott, and, well, the third is unfortunate:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=apathetic_ny

Quite the authority. Brian A. Garner better watch out lest he be dethroned.

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Since you could provide NO source for your admittedly made-up definition, you use sarcasm to attack my source in an effort to dismiss it.

Want a source about those hats? OK..

https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/who-is-the-man-behind-those-blue-maga-hats/360969

The creator meant them unironically as support for the Democratic party.

No, as I never asked for a source for that as I already knew what they were and how they came about as I stated in my post:

"'Blue MAGA' first appeared on blue baseball caps being sold before the 2020 election playing off Trump's red MAGA hats, only the blue ones said "Made America Great Already".

Why you think I needed your source to verify what I already wrote, I don't know.

By the way, I asked ThePrestige, not you for a source, which he also has failed to do.

 

[ZiprHead]

FYI Both of those figures are year over year numbers. Neither inflation nor wage growth was ~5% for a single month. June annualized figures were 3%.

IMO Biden was neither responsible for the inflation of 2021-22, or for doing much to fix it.

How else is it measured???

 

[lobosrul5]

How else is it measured???

I'm not sure what you are asking.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.htm

There is the official source for the consumer price index measurements. Scroll down til you get to the table. First row is "all items", last column is "Un-
adjusted 12-mos. ended Jun. 2023"

That is the amount we inflated in the 12 months June 1st 2022 to June 1st 2023. If you look at the other columns that is each month. June, for example, was .%. Prices are not going up by several percentage points a month.

 

[Stacyhs]

Doesn't help that the Democrats of today are generally ambivalent, if not outright opposed, to things that actually decrease the precarity of working class Americans. Organized labor, government intervention and influence in the market, and a robust social safety nets are anathema for our neoliberal party leadership.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

Dems introduced and passed the Raise the Wage Act ($15/hr minimum wage) in 2021, but the Senate voted it down.

Dems support Organized labor.

Unions have overwhelmingly endorsed re-electing Biden 2024:

"In 'Unprecedented Show of Solidarity,' Major Labor Unions Endorse Biden for 2024
"The largest labor mobilization in history begins today, supercharged by the excitement and enthusiasm of hundreds of thousands of union volunteers who will work tirelessly to reelect a president they know has our backs," said the AFL-CIO president."

Group of 17 unions endorses Biden for 2024

The NEA, the SEIU, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, the three largest Unions all endorsed Biden.

Dems support social safety net programs:

US Democrats Unveil Sweeping Social Safety Net Plan

U.S. Senate Democrats on Monday unveiled a sweeping $3.5 trillion social safety net proposal that would sharply expand the role of the national government in the lives of millions of Americans.

The plan formally embraces many of President Joe Biden's 2020 campaign promises to give impoverished people a better shot at joining middle-class American life. At the same time, it would expand government services across an array of existing and new programs.

It would provide universal free prekindergarten schooling for 3- and 4-year-old children and two years of free community college classes for high school graduates. For older Americans, the plan would boost federal spending for added health care benefits, with first-time funding for dental, vision and hearing aid care.

 

[dudalb]

Is there any mechanism by which recusal can be forced on a Supreme Court Justice?

Nope.

 

[Beelzebuddy]

Dems introduced and passed the Raise the Wage Act ($15/hr minimum wage) in 2021,

Eating your cake.

but the Senate voted it down.

Having it too.

If Democrats are to get the credit for trying to do the right thing, they also get the blame for sending it off to die in committee. But funny thing though - reading the wiki, the bill was actually introduced in the Senate not by a Democrat, but Bernie Sanders. Seems you don't find his doomed causes so objectionable when you can take credit for them after the fact, yes?

 

[acbytesla]

Eating your cake.

Having it too.

If Democrats are to get the credit for trying to do the right thing, they also get the blame for sending it off to die in committee. But funny thing though - reading the wiki, the bill was actually introduced in the Senate not by a Democrat, but Bernie Sanders. Seems you don't find his doomed causes so objectionable when you can take credit for them after the fact, yes?

Bernie Sanders by almost every measurement is a Democrat. He ran for the Presidential nominee for the Democratic Party twice. He caucuses with.the Democratic party. And votes with the Democrats on almost every issue.

 

[Beelzebuddy]

Bernie Sanders by almost every measurement is a Democrat. He ran for the Presidential nominee for the Democratic Party twice. He caucuses with.the Democratic party. And votes with the Democrats on almost every issue.

Oh he puts up a show by being there when it counts, but he's not a party loyalist like Joe Manchin.

 

[dudalb]

I honest to God think somes "Progressives" here want Trump in win in 2024 on the 'Quicker we have fascism the quicker we will have the Revolution" theory. How else can you explant their constant attacks on Biden on often trivial issues?

 

[dudalb]

The only policy that really matters in 2024 is stop Trump. Everything else is of secondary importance.
And I maintain Biden is in the best position to do that.
I find it amusing that Berniebros make such a big deal out of Biden;s age, forgetting how old Bernie is.

 

[acbytesla]

I honest to God think somes "Progressives" here want Trump in win in 2024 on the 'Quicker we have fascism the quicker we will have the Revolution" theory. How else can you explant their constant attacks on Biden on often trivial issues?

What's the old Will Rogers line? I don’t belong to an organized political party. I'm a Democrat.

 

[Beelzebuddy]

I find it amusing that Berniebros make such a big deal out of Biden;s age, forgetting how old Bernie is.

See? How much of a true Democrat can he possibly be if the very mention of his name makes haters crawl out of the woodwork to piss on him?

 

[dudalb]

I support Biden but at times he does seem to be slow when it comes to foreign affairs.
His "Thoughts and Prayers" approach of the huge mess in Israel is not going to cut it. He has some decisions to make as to whether it is time to show Israel some "tough love"as far US support goes. I think it is and the longer he avoids making the decisions the toughter it will be.
If Israel erupts into Civil war, a real possility, it could cause the whole region to blow.

 

[dudalb]

See? How much of a true Democrat can he possibly be if the very mention of his name makes haters crawl out of the woodwork to piss on him?

God last thing we need is for the Dems to Copy the RINO crap we see in the GOP, and try to drive anybody who is not indelogical fit out of the party.

 

[lobosrul5]

I support Biden but at times he does seem to be slow when it comes to foreign affairs.
His "Thoughts and Prayers" approach of the huge mess in Israel is not going to cut it. He has some decisions to make as to whether it is time to show Israel some "tough love"as far US support goes. I think it is and the longer he avoids making the decisions the toughter it will be.
If Israel erupts into Civil war, a real possility, it could cause the whole region to blow.

I'm of the general opinion that we stay out of civil wars. If, however a bordering country sees it as an opportunity to commit Holocaust part 2, then I'd be in favor of intervention.