Cont: The Biden Presidency (3)

[Venom]

Imagine if Obama was that pointed and aggressive at any point in his presidency.

 

[Pixel42]

It's amazing how crazy the right wing is going on about Biden's speech last night. They're saying Biden is using fascist words and speech rhetoric.

Seemed pretty mild to me, especially compared to the things Trump and his followers say about Democrats. And Biden, unlike Trump, has objective evidence to support it.

 

[Delvo]

Biden keeps racking up wins for President who apparently can't do anything.

Now there's a list I'd like to see. Biden wins.

Please share your list. :

https://twitter.com/TheDemocrats/st.../threads/the-biden-presidency.287436/page-292

That little video's list, in the form of text that's sitting still:

The CHIPS & Science Act
The PACT Act
First major gun safety legislation in decades
Ended America's longest war
Record job growth
Took out the leader of al-Qaeda
Historically low unemployment
Confirmation of first Black woman to Supreme Court
United our allies in support of Ukraine
Expanded the NATO alliance
The American Rescue Plan
Once-in-a-generation infrastructure law
Historic funding for HBCUs
Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act
Record-high ACA enrollment
Record pace of judicial confirmations
Raking aggressive action on climate
Allowed Medicare to negotiate lower drug price
Capped seniors' drug expenses
Capped the cost of insulin for Medicare recipients
Implemented a ban on surprise health insurance bills
Rejoined the Paris Climate Accords
Banned chokeholds and no-knock raids for federal law enforcement
Signed executive orders to protect reproductive rights
Raised the minimum wage for federal contractors to $15/hr
Issued historic executive order advancing LGBTQ+ equality
All jobs lost in the pandemic recovered

I don't know for sure what's been driving the change in Democrats over the past few weeks. I suspect it's realizing the SCOTUS abortion ruling is going to hand them the midterm on a platter

But it isn't. The latest projection is that it's still more likely that they lose the HoR than that they don't. All that's changed is that they appear to be heading toward losing it by a smaller margin. They're likely to gain Senate seats, but not up to 60, and there's still even a 35% of losing seats there.

And thinking they're going to be given an election on a platter doesn't motivate people to start fighting for what they expect to be given. If anything, it has the opposite effect. One thing that would explain it, though, is an election ploy. That would certainly be the only apparent explanation for the timing of the (partial) student debt forgiveness that the latest couple of speeches came right after. He's been stringing that one along since his inauguration, and we're seriously supposed to believe that just now is by some amazing coincidence when he finally "decided" on it? I was born at night, but not last night.

 

[Stacyhs]

Deeds, not words. A skeptics' forum is a weird place to see people going all kpop stan over a mere political speech. I like the timing, though. It's almost as if they knew the student loan forgiveness would be bad policy and a damp squib on the PR front, and lined up a lovebomb of red meat to shore up the TDS bloc of party.

Hit a nerve, did it?

 

[Aridas]

It's amazing how crazy the right wing is going on about Biden's speech last night. They're saying Biden is using fascist words and speech rhetoric. You know, asking people to vote out enemies of the state is what dictators do. Republicans are always the victim, even though they are the ones actually taking measures to destroy democracy.

For the "fun" of it...

Fox and the Republicans are losing their minds over Joe Biden calling MAGA "semi-fascist."

But they'd never call their political opponents "fascists," right? Right??

You'll be shocked, shocked I tell you! Roll the tape:

May as well treat that outrage from the right as what it is. A pure power play without any hint of actual principle actually driving it.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Republican voters have just defined themselves as "The Good Guys", ergo the Dems must be bad, and if they save a drowning child and give it food, shelter and education (when they would have let it die), the reason must be that they want to 'groom' it for satanic purposes.
The Abortion canard is just their desperate attempt to put a fake bodycount on Dem politics to balance the actual bodycount their law&order, no healthcare, no social safety politics create on a daily basis.

No wonder they are always on the mental edge, having this level of cognitive dissonance as their baseline state of mind.

 

[Paul2]

Here's video of the Orange Menace calling some Democrats fascist back in 2020:

[Can't get the link to go to the first Tweet in the thread, so scroll up just a bit to see the video]

https://twitter.com/mattsheffield/s...n^s1_&ref_url=https://whyevolutionistrue.com/

 

[JoeMorgue]

I just assume everything the Republicans get mad at someone else for doing did is something they did a far worst version of already. It saves time.

Actually waiting for their cowardly trolling "Watch me put on a big show of how offended, just utterly gobsmacked, I am that Biden had his fly down after four years of Trump not even wearing pants" to assume that's their game is a waste of energy.

 

[acbytesla]

I just assume everything the Republicans get mad at someone else for doing did is something they did a far worst version of already. It saves time.

Actually waiting for their cowardly trolling "Watch me put on a big show of how offended, just utterly gobsmacked, I am that Biden had his fly down after four years of Trump not even wearing pants" to assume that's their game is a waste of energy.

I'll never forget how outraged they were when Obama wore a tan suit.

 

[Stacyhs]

Biden said that when people voted for Trump, they weren't voting for an attack on the Capitol.

Trump said in his PA rally that the DoJ and FBI are "vicious monsters", Biden is an "enemy of the state", and claimed to have won the popular vote in PA (he lost by 80,000 votes).

Looks like Biden really got to the FOT.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

What Dems don't understand is that Republicans, fundamentally, see themselves as almost a different species, as the only True^TM and legitimate Americans.

If they do something bad, it clearly was just a misunderstanding, an honest mistake.
If they see Democrats do something bad, it clearly is only the tip of the iceberg, a symptome of a much vaster coverup of Evil.

so any attempt to tell Republicans: "but you did it first and worse" is wasted - they can't be wrong, by definition, so therefore Dems must always be wrong, especially if they are obviously right.

 

[TheGoldcountry]

What Dems don't understand is that Republicans, fundamentally, see themselves as almost a different species, as the only True^TM and legitimate Americans.
If they do something bad, it clearly was just a misunderstanding, an honest mistake.
If they see Democrats do something bad, it clearly is only the tip of the iceberg, a symptome of a much vaster coverup of Evil.

so any attempt to tell Republicans: "but you did it first and worse" is wasted - they can't be wrong, by definition, so therefore Dems must always be wrong, especially if they are obviously right.

This is one of the few things that actually makes me angry every time I hear it.

No, I'm not "triggered" by any stupid comments about socialism being an evil word, or teachers are "groomers", or liberals are frightened of freedom. That's just nonsense repeated by mouth-breathing morons.

But it's increasingly common for the above attitude to be embraced, that certain people are "true" Americans, and anyone who dares disagree is a traitor. "If you don't like it, move."

No. America doesn't belong to you, and you can **** off. You do not get to decide for everyone what America is or will be, so just kiss my ass.

 

[Tero]

Republicans ready to impeach Biden, on the basis of not corruption but legitimate acts as president. Poll indicated wide support.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...ions_impeach_biden_august_31_september_1_2022

I guess they want to do this to please Trump and make him feel better.

 

[Venom]

"Dark Brandon" strikes again.

"We got a little help from Republicans -- but not a lot -- but enough to get it passed. But the truth is, there are a lot more Republicans taking credit for that bill than who actually voted for it," Biden said at a Democratic National Committee reception in Maryland, another stop for the President as he picks up his campaigning less than two months ahead of the midterm elections.

"I see them out there, 'And now we're going to build this new bridge here, we're all for it. And by the way, this new road, and we're going to have an internet that going to be all the way,' the President said, changing his tone of voice for his impression of the Republicans. "I love them, man. They ain't got no shame."

Remarks by President Biden at a Reception for the Democratic National Committee

And by the way, while we’re doing all this — I’m not going to take all your time because you’re standing, but while we’re doing all this — (laughter) — guess what? You know, Republicans talk about being fiscally responsible. We are reducing the deficit while all this — things we’re doing to spend money. (Applause.) Not a joke.

Last year, I reduced the deficit $350 billion. You know how much this year, not counting the Medicaid changes? One trillion seven hundred billion dollars. (Applause.)

So I don’t want to hear it from Republicans about fiscal responsibility. I don’t want to hear it. I mean it. I — these — ugh. (Laughter.) I don’t want to get going here.

 

[Aridas]

Republicans ready to impeach Biden, on the basis of not corruption but legitimate acts as president. Poll indicated wide support.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pu...ions_impeach_biden_august_31_september_1_2022

I guess they want to do this to please Trump and make him feel better.

I'm going to disagree with you. It's not to please Trump and make him feel better. There's fairly certainly a few reasons, but I'd suggest that the closest to what you suggest is probably that *they* feel wronged and want action taken to fix that. Right wing propaganda is pretty much a wholesale grievance manufacturer, after all, and the Republican trick of convincing Republicans that they're being oppressed (which justifies oppressing others in far, far more tangible ways) has long been cliche at this point.

 

[Aridas]

Just because, I feel like highlighting a Biden quote for a moment.

You know, Republicans talk about being fiscally responsible. We are reducing the deficit while all this — things we’re doing to spend money. (Applause.) Not a joke.

Last year, I reduced the deficit $350 billion. You know how much this year, not counting the Medicaid changes? One trillion seven hundred billion dollars. (Applause.)

So I don’t want to hear it from Republicans about fiscal responsibility. I don’t want to hear it. I mean it. I — these — ugh. (Laughter.) I don’t want to get going here.

You’d think if they really cared about inflation, reducing it, they would have voted for the Inflation Reduction Act. But every single Republican, House and Senate — every single one — every Republican in the House, every Republican in the Senate, they voted against it. Every one.

Look, hear — hear this, America: Every single Republican voted against lowering prescription drug costs — every one — every one; against lowering healthcare costs — every one; against tackling the climate cris- — crisis — every one; against lower energy cost; against creating good-paying jobs; against a fairer tax system — every single one.

Now every single American needs to return the favor and vote them out of office.

 

[Stacyhs]

I'm going to disagree with you. It's not to please Trump and make him feel better. There's fairly certainly a few reasons, but I'd suggest that the closest to what you suggest is probably that *they* feel wronged and want action taken to fix that. Right wing propaganda is pretty much a wholesale grievance manufacturer, after all, and the Republican trick of convincing Republicans that they're being oppressed (which justifies oppressing others in far, far more tangible ways) has long been cliche at this point.

I agree. They see themselves as victims screaming "But mah rights!" while they are busy taking away the rights of others.

 

[Tero]

They may feel oppressed and passing legislation may have pissed them off. But that is not grounds for impeachment. Biden did not make us wear masks, and the CDC and Fauci did not either. They ...GOP...opposed vaccinations of the military. Other than that, no major freedoms were taken.

The impeachment would be embarrassing. Border crossings are going down.

 

[Aridas]

They may feel oppressed and passing legislation may have pissed them off. But that is not grounds for impeachment. Biden did not make us wear masks, and the CDC and Fauci did not either. They ...GOP...opposed vaccinations of the military. Other than that, no major freedoms were taken.

The impeachment would be embarrassing. Border crossings are going down.

It might be embarrassing, if one has shame. Sorta like claiming credit for the benefits brought by legislation that one fought tooth and nail against.

When it's all about power, as it's been continually trending towards with the Republican Party, trusting principle, shame, or truth to matter at all becomes ever more dangerous.

 

[Tero]

"Independent" thinks Republicans and Trump (or any president) can affect business cycles. Even though Republican presidents other than Reagan had less GDP growth than Democrats.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62999166

Republicans have hammered Democrats in local races over inflation and the cost of basic necessities, trying to pin blame for a complex economic issue on the party in power. Polling has shown voters trust Republicans over Democrats to handle economic issues. A Politico/Morning Consult poll conducted from 16 to 18 September found 46% of registered voters trusted Republicans in Congress on the economy, compared to 38% who trusted Democrats (16% weren't sure, or didn't have an opinion*).

Dr. Mehmet Oz, the Republican candidate for US Senate in Pennsylvania, has made the economy central to his argument. He claimed on Twitter that Mr Biden's "reckless spending has increased the price of everything…We need to reverse Biden's failed agenda and focus on restoring America's economy ASAP."

It's true that the pandemic recovery bills probably pushed us into inflation. But the last bill has not brought in reckless spending yet. Only the family oriented and drug related support has been implemented. No "energy" investment has taken place over the past few months. When the gas price went up.

*rare case where "not sure" is the right answer.