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Resume said:
PGF, Elbe Trackway, Bigfoot in a Cooler, Daisy in a Box, Justin Smeja Bigfoot Baggery, Melba Ketchup DNA Duplicity, Blueberry Bagel Bigfoot Breakfast, Kentucky Primate Pancake Proffering . . . Whether it's AD/HD or something else, I think they'll keep it up just fine; I think there is very little many of these folks won't buy into.
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I know what your saying and I understand they will keep on coming for a long while yet, the difference with the TBRC is its on going, so I am wondering how long it will be before they have to change things, give up or get busted.

Tim :)
 
mustbeso said:
I am in agreement with this basically but I think it best that we call it theater(of the absurd?). I think they are people playing a part with a few stooges who might actually think there are woodapes running around...
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Yeah, it's a fantasy camp. These people know there's no wood apes scaring them. It's an open air ghost house ride. It's Bigfoot paintball. With helmets and stuff.
 
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RedRatSnake said:
I know what your saying and I understand they will keep on coming for a long while yet, the difference with the TBRC is its on going, so I am wondering how long it will be before they have to change things, give up or get busted.

Tim :)
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They will probably attempt to carry it on as long as possible. It's not like they are staying in the area full time, or have anything to show for their "research and conservation" or whatever other ******** their statement says.

I love how they are claiming to have seen a wood ape. (specifically Brian Brown and Kathy Strain) When in reality all they claimed to have seen was furry blur apparently. Heck yes, we seen em!

I've seen Bipto make posts saying something to the effect of: "either we're lying or blah blah blah blah. Yep, you're a good story teller Brian. You can pull some leg with the best of em. Good job. *pats on back*

We all know how this is going to end. I have little faith that any of the "pros" out there really believe. Even Meldrum starts to look shady these days when he speaks. Maybe it comes from lying so much? You have to be a good liar to sell the bigfoot thing. Ask MM! :D
 
River said:
We all know how this is going to end. I have little faith that any of the "pros" out there really believe. Even Meldrum starts to look shady these days when he speaks. Maybe it comes from lying so much? You have to be a good liar to sell the bigfoot thing. Ask MM! :D
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I think at this point you are right about faith, these people are not stupid in any way, they latched onto a subject that can make a few $ bucks and help pay the bills.
I don't see it as any different than folks down my way selling stuff about the Pilgrims and how they landed on Plymouth Rock, they have a rock and everything but we know it is not true, in the summer its packed and little souvenir rocks are sold by the thousands, you have people that swear it went down that way cause they are relatives, you have native Indians still screaming about how the pilgrims treated them and protesting every thanksgiving.

It's no wonder we have crypto animals running a mock on this earth, when the humans that live here can't figure out most all of the stories we have as history are a myth.

Tim :)
 
River said:
I love how they are claiming to have seen a wood ape. (specifically Brian Brown and Kathy Strain) When in reality all they claimed to have seen was furry blur apparently. Heck yes, we seen em!

I've seen Bipto make posts saying something to the effect of: "either we're lying or blah blah blah blah.
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Brian Brown makes that comment, IIRC, to protest the idea they are victims of a third party hoax.

I take him at his word. He and Kathy Strain are liars/hoaxers/storytellers, etc.
 
I'm not sure you folks realize you're just playing into all the BS by also using the stupid term Wood Ape. Wood Ape? Really? WTF is a Wood Ape? Bigfoot? Almost Bigfoot? Approximately Bigfoot, but more woody and apey? A new term for an old beast so the recycling of all the old Bigfoot lore doesn't seem so suspicious? "Yes, but this was a Wood Ape." "Oh, well, since it was a Wood Ape, nevermind." And please don't respond saying 'that's the term they use blah blah blah.' If you do, you're an idiot.
 
HarryHenderson said:
I'm not sure you folks realize you're just playing into all the BS by also using the stupid term Wood Ape. Wood Ape? Really? WTF is a Wood Ape? Bigfoot? Almost Bigfoot? Approximately Bigfoot, but more woody and apey? A new term for an old beast so the recycling of all the old Bigfoot lore doesn't seem so suspicious? "Yes, but this was a Wood Ape." "Oh, well, since it was a Wood Ape, nevermind." And please don't respond saying 'that's the term they use blah blah blah.' If you do, you're an idiot.
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Guilty as charged. I like "Wood Ape." It brings out the enchantment, the romance, of the mystery. Hell, that's what mystery mongering BS is good for.
Reminds me of how I felt when I was a kid huddled up with old Ivan T. as he wrote about the Ruby Creek incident or the Crew tracks.

For some reason, and I do not know why, I just can't get angry about Ivan T. or ole Roger Patterson or Dahinden, and etc. They seriously misled me, for sure. But thinking back on them, I tend to catch myself smiling. They are forgiven.

So, shoot me.
 
I thought they used the term to justify shooting what they consider to be an animal since about half of the footers consider "bigfoot" to be in the human family.

I suppose it's the same reason that a monkey's appendages are referred to as paws, same difference, other than the fact that monkeys happen to be real.
 
IMHO ~ I think by changing it to WA, it sent up more red flags because it is an obvious dodge away from the norm, not only that but, now there is yet another description of the creature that has not followed the basic formula of a chunky Patty, so many different Bigfoot's, so little to support any of them.

Tim
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Wood Ape sounds more legit than Bigfoot; too legit to quit.

I say we call 'em Woody.
 
Resume said:
Wood Ape sounds more legit than Bigfoot; too legit to quit.

I say we call 'em Woody.
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Surf's Up!!

I bought a '30 Ford wagon and we call it a woody
Surf City, here we come
You know it's not very cherry, it's an oldie but a goodie
Surf City, here we come
 
tsig said:
Surf's Up!!

I bought a '30 Ford wagon and we call it a woody
Surf City, here we come
You know it's not very cherry, it's an oldie but a goodie
Surf City, here we come
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Woody driving a Woody. Now that's a t-shirt.
 
Jodie said:
I thought they used the term to justify shooting what they consider to be an animal since about half of the footers consider "bigfoot" to be in the human family.

I suppose it's the same reason that a monkey's appendages are referred to as paws, same difference, other than the fact that monkeys happen to be real.
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Interesting point. I know that some advocates, like Green or Meldrum, do not like "Bigfoot." It does have its plural problem: Bigfoot, Bigfoots, Bigfeet. A little known fact: when odd, human-like tracks surfaced in a big media way in Northern California in the late 1950's, locals had no idea what to make of them. Some thought they belonged to a virtually giant Indian lad who had previously been chained up by his parents (he was alleged to be mentally impaired). Some thought the prints were made by a young fellow, who when he was young, wondered off from a local CCC camp and never was seen again. The kid was 6ft. 7in. and growing. Others thought the tracks were made by Lemurians, a race of advanced giants said to live underground. It was Green who visited the site and proclaimed the tracks those of apes.

"Saquatch" is generally preferred, Green migrated the term in popularity south of the border down states way, but it is a word made up by Burns back in the 20's, for an alleged tribe of giant Indians (coming full circle to Paulides and Ketchum).

I think the TBRC see themselves as mavericks and reset the clock, so to speak, with a new coinage. Remember, too, they have encountered the Apes of Oklahoma and it turns out they were right about the Wood Ape name. Funny how that worked out for them.
 
That and Brian is a PR person by trade, I believe, I'm sure the conotations for "Wood Ape" and the goal of the TBRC didn't escape his notice.
 
LOLOL....well I wasn't far off, on the slide for 8 noteworthy "something or other" it mentions tapping into your tribal base....that about sums up participation on the BFF even if it isn't e-mail per say, it is "sharing". But I think he needs to re-evaluate why it gives his group validity (mirror, mirror on the wall pic).
 
<SHOT HIM>

Just as a little courtesy reminder for everyone who missed class last week due to their attendance at the Greater Downtown Dubuque 51st Annual WOOD APE Symposium, the 'phenomenon' is about an IMAGINARY BEAST.

So anyway, why not Peanut Butter and Jelly Ape? Better yet, Carbon Fiber Ape? Enchanting Ape? Whoops, just remembered, most people that hallucinate, daydream or otherwise fantasize about seeing MAN-APES - for some reason or another - do it with a regular reference to the WOODS. Yes, got it, WOOD APE, makes sense now. How could I be so obtuse! While we're at it, maybe we should come up with a new name for the Unicorn too? Freshen up its image? Make it more 'fun' to say? Unicorn isn't so plural friendly either. When I finally see a herd of them, I'll want to refer to them properly, right?! Say something a little more 'horsey'? What about an ironic name like Pokey? Or, I got it, Hendersons Horny Horse. I mean, it does look like a horse.

Maybe I'm being 'thrown' by how much value/credence so many of you appear to give to the iterations and credibility of these Bigfoot Fantasy Folks™ (BFFs). Mention Matt Moneymaker, many of you probably say "Eh, but I like the show". Yet mention Tom Biscardi and a likely instantaneous explosion of outrage and righteousness follows. As if Biscardi has done even a fraction of a fraction of a percentage of Moneymaker's Bigfoot misdeeds. Yeah wow, he held a few phoney news conferences. "He lied to us." What an evil sum *****. But Moneymaker, who has an internationally distributed network ******* TV show about FINDING BIGFOOT that's on every week almost gets a pass. How does that work exactly?

As if nowadays it's all just a big, friendly, politically correct game still called Popular Bigfooting, but where the notion of 'winning or losing' was thrown out with last year's election. Too win-ee and lose-ee. "C'mon guys, it's so simple. Maybe you need a refresher course. It's all about ball bearings nowadays." It's about making everybody equal and not deliberately offending anyone whilst dancing around the keyboard creepily memorizing the names, places, affiliations and Kryptonite™ ratings of such established and up & coming Go-To™ Bigfoot players who claim anything more than a casual affiliation with an actual beast?

Maybe there's a whole lot more fantasizing about Bigfoot's genuine existence going on with the folks HERE than I've realized. Seriously. I thought the 'problem' was the Muldur and Sweaty types.

I understand more now why a 10 million dollar Bigfoot bounty doesn't interest anyone here (like it should). Yet criticism of the simple term 'wood ape' elicits an almost righteous indignation. Hey I understand, 10 million dollars would totally **** up the precious Bigfoot world's equilibrium. Mum's the word.

Still <shaking head>
 
I agree with you, but I'm second guessing mostivations based on the subject's presumed belief and the ulterior motive of profit rather than real discovery, because they know it doesn't exist. Why should I invest money to win 10 million to seek a creature that doesn't exist?

You also have to consider the fact that most of the ones we discuss are members here whether they ever post or not, they are certainly here reading every word we write.

Why? So they can hit the report button every time anyone gets a smidge close to the truth. Why do you think the threads are all on moderation right now? It isn't because we are reporting each other, I can assure you.
 
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