The Afterlife Experiments
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No. I thought it was a fools errand. Different from not caring. So, what ground breaking results resulted?
Also, whenever you get a chance, I'd still like your take on that paper. You know the one you were "working on" while you trolled for other peoples evaluation.
Is there any positive statement you can make about Schwartz's work that you can defend? Anything at all?
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It's been discussed, ad nauseum.
Bringing it up again, with nothing added, is trolling. We seem to be getting more rule bound, is there one for that?
And my request for a defensible postition on Schwartz's work was exactly on topic. What exactly is going on here?
Bringing it up again, with nothing added, is trolling. We seem to be getting more rule bound, is there one for that?
And my request for a defensible postition on Schwartz's work was exactly on topic. What exactly is going on here?
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Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
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[pmod=Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]I moved back a couple of posts that seem to be relevant.[/pmod]
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Schwartz gained some noteriety in the woo circles because of the whole "VERITAS" replies to Randi, Shermer, et al. The very fact that he replied to them was enough for many a credophile to jump and down with joy in the assumption that every claim had been parried by the noble Schwartz.
But even a cursory examination of the VERITAS comments showed massive flaws in reasoning. Several times, Schwartz deliberately used rhetorical comments by Randi and treated them as if they were factual claims.
But worst of all was Schwartz attempts to play both sides of the coin. When criticized for his uncontrolled work, Schwartz whined that all of his work was preliminary and that any day now he would use Double-Blind/Triple Blind to get decent evidence.
Hence, the man talked out of both sides of his mouth. To the woos, he would say that everything was proven! This work he had done was proper science and was absolute proof of an afterlife. Sing in the streets kids! Ignore those nasty skeptics! They know nothing! Hyman is a poopy head! Boo-Ya!
To the scientists, he told a different tale: Any day now we'll get the proof. This is just a warm-up! You'll see! Triple-Blind! White Crow! Stop attack my preliminart work, its just a start! I never claimed anything was proven! Back off!
Its been a few years and Schwartz has yet to mention any more double-blind work. The one double-blind experiment he did had chance levels, but he tried to inflate the figures to claim success.
I haven't heard much in the past few months from woos trying to throw VERITAS in my face as some kind of proof of Randi being a bad person.
Schwartz is a stain.
But even a cursory examination of the VERITAS comments showed massive flaws in reasoning. Several times, Schwartz deliberately used rhetorical comments by Randi and treated them as if they were factual claims.
But worst of all was Schwartz attempts to play both sides of the coin. When criticized for his uncontrolled work, Schwartz whined that all of his work was preliminary and that any day now he would use Double-Blind/Triple Blind to get decent evidence.
Hence, the man talked out of both sides of his mouth. To the woos, he would say that everything was proven! This work he had done was proper science and was absolute proof of an afterlife. Sing in the streets kids! Ignore those nasty skeptics! They know nothing! Hyman is a poopy head! Boo-Ya!
To the scientists, he told a different tale: Any day now we'll get the proof. This is just a warm-up! You'll see! Triple-Blind! White Crow! Stop attack my preliminart work, its just a start! I never claimed anything was proven! Back off!
Its been a few years and Schwartz has yet to mention any more double-blind work. The one double-blind experiment he did had chance levels, but he tried to inflate the figures to claim success.
I haven't heard much in the past few months from woos trying to throw VERITAS in my face as some kind of proof of Randi being a bad person.
Schwartz is a stain.