The Absolute Truth

[Iacchus]

Puss either exists or he doesn't exist. And this is the absolute truth. So what does this tell us about any notions we might have that I'm completely off my effing rocker? That they are purely poppycock, naturally. Moo.

Well, obviously we can choose to believe whatever we want, however ...

 

[Pahansiri]

So, what happens to that part of you that believes it's here when it stops to believe and ceases to exist? It will be as if it never believed in the first place. Hmm ... This must be where the Buddhists get the idea that life is just an illusion. So, what's the point in believing in anything if it's purely fictional? Indeed, who is it exactly (aside from me of course) that's not living in the land of make believe?

You simply do not read what is writen or have a grasp of anything other then what you "want" to believe. Your post and lack of even a basic knowledge of the topic you are trying to talk about only makes you look silly.

Relax, be calm and think things out, gather information about what you wish to attack/talk about.

You take too personally that others will not blindly follow you, blindly just believe what you tell us to believe just because you believe it.. It is NOT personal.

 

[Pahansiri]

Well, obviously we can choose to believe whatever we want, however ...

yes and I respect what you choose to believe, can you give others the same respect?

 

[Iacchus]

yes and I respect what you choose to believe, can you give others the same respect?

And would you respect my right to shoot you if I caught you sneaking around my back door and believed you were up to no good?

 

[Pahansiri]

And would you respect my right to shoot you if I caught you sneaking around my back door and believed you were up to no good?

1- I would not be sneaking around your back door
2- the courts would have to judge your intent. If you shoot me and I die, oh well. If I live then I live and will hold no anger towards you.

Next question.

I do feel great sadness for you that you fear answering questions. I believe it makes you look weak and rude and I believe you are better then that.

 

[Iacchus]

1- I would not be sneaking around your back door
2- the courts would have to judge your intent. If you shoot me and I die, oh well. If I live then I live and will hold no anger towards you.

Next question.

I do feel great sadness for you that you fear answering questions. I believe it makes you look weak and rude and I believe you are better then that.

Sadness and anger, my friend, are two sides of the same coin. To be honest, I would prefer that you didn't feel either way -- about me anyway -- as the one tends to evoke the other.

 

[Pahansiri]

Sadness and anger, my friend, are two sides of the same coin. To be honest, I would prefer that you didn't feel either way -- about me anyway -- as the one tends to evoke the other.

Sadness and anger, my friend, are two sides of the same coin.

Wow, you do look at things strangely, this God of yours gives you no comfort.

Sadness for me is compassion there is no anger in compassion.

To be honest, I would prefer that you didn't feel either way -- about me anyway -- as the one tends to evoke the other.

Well of course you have no control over my thoughts or actions as much as that bothers you. But I have no anger for you at all and have shown none, you have many times towards me, the name calling etc but that is your choice and it has no effect on me unless I allowed it, I do not.

I have and will always show you respect and compassion, sad being a believer in your God does not include such qualities.

 

[Iacchus]

I have and will always show you respect and compassion, sad being a believer in your God does not include such qualities.

Yes, and with compassion comes strife. Perhaps this is why God doesn't exhibit compassion so clearly? Except of course when He sends someone like Jesus Christ to walk the face of the earth.

 

[uruk]

Yes, and with compassion comes strife. Perhaps this is why God doesn't exhibit compassion so clearly? Except of course when He sends someone like Jesus Christ to walk the face of the earth.

Yes but with butter comes rabies. Perhaps this is why chihuahuas don't dance the macarena with compassion. Except of course when they are advertising for tacos. Then you get someone like Mr. T walking the earth looking to pity a fool. And lest we not forget to knarffle the garthog.

 

[Pahansiri]

Yes, and with compassion comes strife. Perhaps this is why God doesn't exhibit compassion so clearly? Except of course when He sends someone like Jesus Christ to walk the face of the earth.

Yes, and with compassion comes strife.

Sad you believe that. Compassion has no conditions it is simply kindness, what you may believe is compassion is just doing something hoping to get something in return, a reward, you attach needs to it. That is not compassion.

Perhaps this is why God doesn't exhibit compassion so clearly?

Not at all, but neither does the pink unicorn, but why should we expect myths to exhibit anything.

Except of course when He sends someone like Jesus Christ to walk the face of the earth.

More myths but I respect you believe it.


Oh my the way,this does not sound like compassion

Matt 10:34-36… Think that I have come to send peace on earth. I
came not to send peace but a sword. For I come to set a man against
his father, and the daughter against her mother.

 

[Iacchus]

Sad you believe that. Compassion has no conditions it is simply kindness, what you may believe is compassion is just doing something hoping to get something in return, a reward, you attach needs to it. That is not compassion.

Sad, but true.

Oh my the way, this does not sound like compassion

Matt 10:34-36… Think that I have come to send peace on earth. I
came not to send peace but a sword. For I come to set a man against his father, and the daughter against her mother.

Yep, it cuts you right down the middle.

 

[uruk]

believing in something does not necessarily mean that it is real or true.
You can't fool yourself all of the time.

 

[Iacchus]

believing in something does not necessarily mean that it is real or true.
You can't fool yourself all of the time.

Yes, I believe some things are more plausible than others, but still it's a matter of belief ... and, wholly subject to whatever drives that belief. So, what does this tell us about the driving force behind reality? Or, don't you believe that there is anything there?

 

[Pahansiri]

Sad, but true.

Yep, it cuts you right down the middle.

Sad, but true.

See we do agree on something. I agree it is true and sad that you would only do what is right and good out of fear or for a hope of reward.

Yep, it cuts you right down the middle.

No, it is just evil, such a small god.

 

[Iacchus]

See we do agree on something. I agree it is true and sad that you would only do what is right and good out of fear or for a hope of reward.


No, it is just evil, such a small god.

So, then, you have just accused yourself of being evil. There is none good but God by the way.

 

[Pahansiri]

So, then, you have just accused yourself of being evil. There is none good but God by the way.

WOW your reading skills are sooooooo poor...lol I said your God was evil silly boy..

i.e. Matt 10:34-36… Think that I have come to send peace on earth. Icame not to send peace but a sword. For I come to set a man against his father, and the daughter against her mother.

There is none good but God by the way.

Can you prove that? ( silly me thinking he will)

remember God is but a myth, a belief..

 

[Mercutio]

God either exists or He doesn't exist. And this is the absolute truth.

I find this an interesting and curious statement, coming from the person who recently claimed that he did have "proof" that god exists, albeit proof he could not share with anyone. And just above, you assert that "there is none good but God, by the way".

Which is it, Iacchus? You seem to want it both ways. You want to be able to claim you have absolute ironclad proof that god exists and that you know important characteristics about him...but when pressed for evidence (let alone "proof"), you say it is not available unless we are in your shoes, and when accused of making claims of god's existence, you point to the "if"s you sprinkle liberally through your posts.

Which is it? Do you have the courage to drop the "if" dodge and stand behind your claims? Or is the truth the "if", and you should have the honesty to drop any pretense at knowing for certain that god exists.

It is understandable that your posts have gotten meaner recently (your venting at Pahansiri is particularly unseemly); people have actually listened to your claims (despite your protest that they have not) and seen that you are either making claims you cannot support, or dodging and hiding behind meaningless "if" statements.

 

[Iacchus]

Re: Re: The Absolute Truth

I find this an interesting and curious statement, coming from the person who recently claimed that he did have "proof" that god exists, albeit proof he could not share with anyone. And just above, you assert that "there is none good but God, by the way".

No proof outside of my own subjective experience? Can you do better?

 

[Piscivore]

This seems an appropriate point at which to link to an old parody of mine.

 

[phildonnia]

I'd just like to point out that the proposition

A v ~A

does not entail

A

nor does it entail

~A.

Thus, we may accept "God exists or God does not exist" without admitting the "absolute truth" of either option.