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The 2017 anniversary of 9/11 - not happening in Trutherland

MicahJava said:
You know it's bad when even the commissioners say the 9/11 Commission was BS.
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Dear me, you've swallowed everything you've been spoon-fed, haven't you? I could probably write your next dozen posts for you, based on the total lack of either discernment or originality you've shown so far.

Dave
 
The Big Dog said:
Cool story:

"What we could not have anticipated were the remarkable people and circumstances that would coalesce within and around the 9/11 Commission over the coming twenty months to enable our success."

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I'm sure MicahJava will be back to retract his statement after discovering this new information. Certainly no seeker of truth would continue to present false information. :rolleyes:
 
The Big Dog said:
Cool story:

"What we could not have anticipated were the remarkable people and circumstances that would coalesce within and around the 9/11 Commission over the coming twenty months to enable our success."

actual source
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Oh my God, FREAKIN hilarious. That whole book is about the difficulty in managing the 9/11 Commission. How hard did you have to work to scrape together that bit of quote mining?
 
MicahJava said:
Oh my God, FREAKIN hilarious. That whole book is about the difficulty in managing the 9/11 Commission. How hard did you have to work to scrape together that bit of quote mining?
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Finest example of irony one will ever see.

That being said, finding that quote was so easy even a 911 truther could do it, you see, it is in the same damn paragraph as the designed to fail line!

You read the entire paragraph right? I mean you are not relying on anonymous bloggers on the internet right?

Yeah they sold a whole book about how difficult to manage it was, and how they pulled themselves up, overcame the obstacles and succeeded! Typical America success story!
 
The Big Dog said:
Finest example of irony one will ever see.

That being said, finding that quote was so easy even a 911 truther could do it, you see, it is in the same damn paragraph as the designed to fail line!

You read the entire paragraph right? I mean you are not relying on anonymous bloggers on the internet right?

Yeah they sold a whole book about how difficult to manage it was, and how they pulled themselves up, overcame the obstacles and succeeded! Typical America success story!
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Is it wrong that I read your comment in a Russian accent?
 
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With reference to the 9/11 attacks, we know who committed them and how, and we've also got a pretty good idea of how and why the buildings collapsed.

What you seem to be proposing is another, presumably lengthy and costly, investigation, to discover some scraps of truth you will also reject, if they contradict a theory you refuse to spell out.

What would be the point? What do you expect them to discover, and will you accept their findings if the additional scraps also contradict your secret theory?
 
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Cosmic Yak said:
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With reference to the 9/11 attacks, we know who committed them and how, and we've also got a pretty good idea of how and why the buildings collapsed.

What you seem to be proposing is another, presumably lengthy and costly, investigation, to discover some scraps of truth you will also reject, if they contradict a theory you refuse to spell out.

What would be the point? What do you expect them to discover, and will you accept their findings if the additional scraps also contradict your secret theory?
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Actually, MicahJava, that was a little bit sneaky, and you nearly got me with it.
What you originally said was that you didn't trust the investigations. That is not the same as believing that every scrap of truth was entered into the reports.
It is my firm belief that enough evidence was presented in both the NIST and 9/11 Commission reports to conclude beyond any reasonable doubt that Al Qaeda carried out the attacks, and that no CD was involved in the collapse of the buildings. Does that mean I think that 'every scrap of truth' was included? I can't say for sure, but probably not. Do I think that these scraps would alter in any meaningful way their conclusions? Of course not. That would completely invalidate the reports, and such a thing could not be kept secret for any length of time.
Is it your contention that there are scraps of truth that could be uncovered by a new investigation that would alter in any meanngful way the conclusions of the exisitng investigations? If so, do you have any evidence to support this belief?
 
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MicahJava said:
Oh my God, FREAKIN hilarious. That whole book is about the difficulty in managing the 9/11 Commission. How hard did you have to work to scrape together that bit of quote mining?
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You think someone else is freakin' hilarious, when you post a carefully truncated piece of a quote, then, when someone posts the remainder of the quote to put it in context, you accuse him of quote mining?

Of course, what's really pathetic here is that your quote mines aren't even vaguely close to original; they're on page 1 of the standard truther playbook. I think the next step is the "hijackers are still alive," right? Or is it quote mining the PNAC or coke snorting hijackers? We know all the moves, just not the order recommended.

Dave
 
MicahJava said:
Oh my God, FREAKIN hilarious. That whole book is about the difficulty in managing the 9/11 Commission. How hard did you have to work to scrape together that bit of quote mining?
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It was not quote mining, it was exposing quote mining by you. You left out the real meaning, the rest of the story.

JFK and 9/11 claims supported by BS, and poor quote mining (self-debunking quote mining - did you stop reading after your did your cherry picking)
 
Having largely kept out of the madness that is the 9/11 conspiracy theory for the past few years, I decided to watch a documentary over the weekend. It was called Firehouse 911.

I felt so angered and enraged with these truthers, while watching the documentary.

The visible anguish in the face of those firefighters who lost their friends that day was heartbreaking. The truth movement dishonours the memory of those people who died that day.

Watching the footage of the aircraft strike the towers, the fires and the smoke, the fact that these idiots assert it was not hot enough and so on is terrible. The fact that people chose to jump and die, rather than face the fires is so sad.

The truth movement is nothing but a despicable bunch of idiots whos sheer ignorance serves only to dishonour the lives of 3000 people who died that day.

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CNN has an anniversary remembrance, currently linked from their home page under the title "A rare look inside the towers." It's a vertically scrollable timeline, using segments of the Naudet footage.

By chance I was in Doylestown PA for an art fair and bicycle races yesterday, and saw their 9/11 memorial for the first time (though it's been there for two years now).

The traditional daylong suspension of debate between Truthers and debunkers seems a moot point now, but still worth honoring.
 
Wow, almost spent a whole Sept. 11th without posting in this subforum. And it didn't feel weird.

Anyone participate in any anniversary activities today? I was surprised to see one (non truther; strictly a remembrance activity) being held by a local technical college, my surprise being based on the fact that I live nowhere near the state of New York. But it's a pleasant surprise. From what I see in our local paper, it wasn't maudlin and was dignified. That was nice to see.
 
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