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The 1871 Albert Pike letter predicting three world wars.

Ladewig

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In another thread I called the Albert Pike letter kooky and crackpot. I said a detailed debunking of the letter could be provided and I was asked to do so. I mis-remembered the content of the previous Illuminati secret-letter thread, so I am creating a new thread to discuss the contents of the letter. Specifically, the prediction of the three world wars.

The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
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I am off to gather more information related to the debunking of the letter.

If any posters already know of useful resources related to this topic, please post them.
 
Was Nazism actually a word in 1871?



ETA: Nope; the Nazi party was not founded until 1920. I'm satisfied this sole fact adequately exposes the letter as a modern hoax; but continue if you must.
 
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Was Nazism actually a word in 1871?



ETA: Nope; the Nazi party was not founded until 1920. I'm satisfied this sole fact adequately exposes the letter as a modern hoax; but continue if you must.

The advocates of the letter assert that the authors invented the word NAZI in the 1870s as part of their 150-year plan.
 
And it's a good one, not only because it lists all the obvious anachronisms in the text of the letter, but goes on to suggest how the letter may have actually arisen and come to be attributed to Pike.

Apparently the author is himself a bit of a CTist-
Lies about Saddam’s WMD capabilities, the elements of prior knowledge and complicity by the US and other Governments surrounding 9/11, and even the corporate beneficiaries of the World Wars, prove that war is about a lot more than our officials and the media tell us.

There's also an interesting comment, kind of made me laugh-
He [Pike] couldn't predict the confederates would lose the Civil War, but we are to believe he made specific predictions regarding 3 World Wars?
 
As I mentioned in a previous thread,

Let's look back at 1871. Jews have earned the right to vote in England less than 20 years ago and still do not have the right to vote in many European countries. Muslims are losing power as their countries become economically irrelevant or occupied by the British Empire. It is at this point that the schemers say. "let's control every aspect of (1) international affairs, (2) world-wide industrialization, (3) the invention and wide-spread use of the internal combustion engine, (4) the drawing of borders in the Middle-East, and (5) the interpretation of Quranic scriptures in such a way that 150 years from now, these two groups become so powerful that a conflict between them will cause nations around the world to enter a world war, the results of which will allow us to control the world."

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and the one thing that fouled up their machinations was the unexpected rise of Christian fundamentalism in the U.S. Their plan relies on Christians becoming disillusioned with their religion as a Middle-East religious war heats up. Of course, modern fundamental Christians cannot wait to see such a war because they think it signals the arrival of the End Times. If anything it would redouble their faith. Such Christians would not submit to the resulting Luciferific one-world government, they would fiercely and unendingly attack it.
 
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Was Nazism actually a word in 1871?



ETA: Nope; the Nazi party was not founded until 1920. I'm satisfied this sole fact adequately exposes the letter as a modern hoax; but continue if you must.

I caught that too and now you've saved me the Google. :w2:
 
Was Nazism actually a word in 1871?



ETA: Nope; the Nazi party was not founded until 1920. I'm satisfied this sole fact adequately exposes the letter as a modern hoax; but continue if you must.

No. Neither was facism. Neither term was coined until after ww1.
 
and the one thing that fouled up their machinations was the unexpected rise of Christian fundamentalism in the U.S... modern fundamental Christians cannot wait to see such a war because they think it signals the arrival of the End Times.
Not at all unexpected - just another part of the plan. Christian fundamentalists are in on it!

Not that they will succeed. You see, 3000 years ago my ancestors set in motion a plan that involves the Illuminati trying to achieve world domination. We deliberately let them think that the first two world wars were a result of their efforts, when it was really us. Now they are overconfident and will tip their hand, and we will wipe them out forever while achieving our main aim - World Peace for the next 20,000 years! :)

Albert Pike got it mostly right - he just didn't know about the conspiracy behind the conspiracy. But how can you know that I am telling the truth? Wait a while. When WW3 doesn't happen and the Illuminati are nowhere to be found...
 
Not at all unexpected - just another part of the plan. Christian fundamentalists are in on it!

Not that they will succeed. You see, 3000 years ago my ancestors set in motion a plan that involves the Illuminati trying to achieve world domination. We deliberately let them think that the first two world wars were a result of their efforts, when it was really us. Now they are overconfident and will tip their hand, and we will wipe them out forever while achieving our main aim - World Peace for the next 20,000 years! :)

Albert Pike got it mostly right - he just didn't know about the conspiracy behind the conspiracy. But how can you know that I am telling the truth? Wait a while. When WW3 doesn't happen and the Illuminati are nowhere to be found...

Now, that's a reveal!
 
Just a nitpick : "The term Nazism did not emerge until the 1930s with the rise of Germany’s National Socialist party." nazism may or may not have started with the 1930... But Nazi existed way before the 1930, as early as 1881 https://books.google.de/books?id=UaggHAJ7jToC&pg=PA247&redir_esc=y heck the hitler's guy hated being called nazi. And knowing the german language from nazi to nazism it would be an obvious step.

OMG! It's real! :jaw-dropp

What's supposed to happen after WWIII again?
 
Just a nitpick : "The term Nazism did not emerge until the 1930s with the rise of Germany’s National Socialist party." nazism may or may not have started with the 1930... But Nazi existed way before the 1930, as early as 1881 https://books.google.de/books?id=UaggHAJ7jToC&pg=PA247&redir_esc=y heck the hitler's guy hated being called nazi. And knowing the german language from nazi to nazism it would be an obvious step.

Ah, so as early as the 1880s there is documentation that Nazi was a nickname for men named Ignatz. And where do we find the most famous Ignatz? In Krazy Kat cartoons where he throws bricks! And where do we find Krazy Kat cartoons? In William Randolph Hearst's newspapers. Connect the dots, Sheeple.
 
Was Nazism actually a word in 1871?

Nope. "Communism" is also highly unlikely to have been used in 1871; "Zionism" even more so.
The "Illuminati" references are also highly suspect; no genuine Pike writings use the term or refer to such a group.

Really the supposed letter is an amateurish fabrication.
 
Ah, so as early as the 1880s there is documentation that Nazi was a nickname for men named Ignatz. And where do we find the most famous Ignatz? In Krazy Kat cartoons where he throws bricks! And where do we find Krazy Kat cartoons? In William Randolph Hearst's newspapers. Connect the dots, Sheeple.
Well you have a point on this one. The point might be well off of the reservation, and as clear as mud, but point noted! lol;);):D
 

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