The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

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From The Corbett Report

Talking to yourself?

Please, speak for yourself. In your own words, What's on your mind? Explain.

 

[WildCat]

Actually, no, it hasn't. Not even a single shred. The 9/11 Commission report does not constitute evidence of much. All it constitutes is what the government claims to have happened on 9/11, and since the government is a primary suspect in our little investigation here

And what evidence leads you to this conclusion? Did you forget to post it?

 

[332nd]

Gotta say, there is so much more. Some people cannot see the forest for the trees.
Some cannot read between the lines. Some cannot follow the money. Some people cannot concieve of the lies, deaths, and suffering of innocent people.
People in this country who have worked for and have ties to our government, lied about the Gulf of Tonkin, the Vietnam War cost the United States 58,000 lives and 350,000 casualties. It also resulted in between one and two million Vietnamese deaths.
Project Paperclip, bringing in Nazi war criminals to our country, who then started MKULTRA, who experimented on innocent unknowing, Americans including children.
Then we have the Plutonium Papers, exposing Americans to harmful radiation unknowingly.
When did we learn of these things? Long after the people responsible were around to be held accountable. Why should 9/11 be any different?
We went to Iraq based on LIES, look at all of our men and women and innocent Iraqi's who have died and suffered. America now condones TORTURE as a valid way to get information. If you witnessed your child being tortured, you would lie your ass off to make them stop, even if you didn't know anything!
We have lost our dignity, privacy, our rights. America has good people who want to help others, but they are not in power; and these lying mfer's, (want to know who they are?.....follow the money), have ruined this country are so obscenely wealthy and protected by the media and politicians they own, that they can and do get away with murder. They laugh at you, because they know that you will keep believing their bs, it doesn't even bother you, that the 9/11 Commission admits there are lies. Do you really believe that it was all just incompetence? The Commission had to find some way to explain the lies without the real criminals being accused.
Have a nice day.
TRANSCRIPT: On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with boxcutters directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress halfway around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily-defended airspace in the world, overpowering the passengers and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor.

These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who liked to drink alcohol, snort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers, managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in New York, while in Washington a pilot who couldn’t handle a single engine Cessna was able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corskscrew turn to come exactly level with the ground, hitting the Pentagon in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the 2.3 trillion dollars that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced “missing” from the Pentagon’s coffers in a press conference the day before, on September 10, 2001.

Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes, the pundits knew within hours, the Administration knew within the day, and the evidence literally fell into the FBI’s lap. But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists demanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history.

The investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed. It failed to mention the existence of WTC7, Able Danger, Ptech, Sibel Edmonds, OBL and the CIA, and the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening. It was lied to by the Pentagon, the CIA, the Bush Administration and as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors. It didn’t bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is of “little practical significance“. Still, the 9/11 Commission did brilliantly, answering all of the questions the public had (except most of the victims’ family members’ questions) and pinned blame on all the people responsible (although no one so much as lost their job), determining the attacks were “a failure of imagination” because “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings ” except the Pentagon and FEMA and NORAD and the NRO.

The DIA destroyed 2.5 TB of data on Able Danger, but that’s OK because it probably wasn’t important.

The SEC destroyed their records on the investigation into the insider trading before the attacks, but that’s OK because destroying the records of the largest investigation in SEC history is just part of routine record keeping.

NIST has classified the data that they used for their model of WTC7′s collapse, but that’s OK because knowing how they made their model of that collapse would “jeopardize public safety“.

The FBI has argued that all material related to their investigation of 9/11 should be kept secret from the public, but that’s OK because the FBI probably has nothing to hide.

This man never existed, nor is anything he had to say worthy of your attention, and if you say otherwise you are a paranoid conspiracy theorist and deserve to be shunned by all of humanity. Likewise him, him, him, and her. (and her and her and him).

Osama Bin Laden lived in a cave fortress in the hills of Afghanistan, but somehow got away. Then he was hiding out in Tora Bora but somehow got away. Then he lived in Abottabad for years, taunting the most comprehensive intelligence dragnet employing the most sophisticated technology in the history of the world for 10 years, releasing video after video with complete impunity (and getting younger and younger as he did so), before finally being found in a daring SEAL team raid which wasn’t recorded on video, in which he didn’t resist or use his wife as a human shield, and in which these crack special forces operatives panicked and killed this unarmed man, supposedly the best source of intelligence about those dastardly terrorists on the planet. Then they dumped his body in the ocean before telling anyone about it. Then a couple dozen of that team’s members died in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

This is the story of 9/11, brought to you by the media which told you the hard truths about JFK and incubator babies and mobile production facilities and the rescue of Jessica Lynch.

If you have any questions about this story…you are a *******, paranoid, tinfoil, dog-abusing baby-hater and will be reviled by everyone. If you love your country and/or freedom, happiness, rainbows, rock and roll, puppy dogs, apple pie and your grandma, you will never ever express doubts about any part of this story to anyone. Ever.

... That wall o text doesn't change the fact that the hijackers being dead isn't so much convenient as simply something that happens when you crash a plane moving at 500 MPH into a building or the ground.

 

[beachnut]

SPAM Alert

Gotta say, there is so much more. ...

Yes, 911 truth sources have many more lies and delusions for you to copy and paste in your massive SPAM attack.

...TRANSCRIPT: On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with boxcutters directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress halfway around the world using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily-defended airspace in the world, overpowering the passengers and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor. ...

Corbett puts words together to form nothing.
The airspace of the USA is not the most heavily-defended airspace in the world on 911, it was FAA controlled, not a military state. Corbett is stupid on NORAD, FAA, commercial air traffic, RADAR, USAF, and the military. Corbett starts off with stupid and it gets worse.
The pilots are strapped in with seat-belts and shoulder harnesses facing forward, killed in their seats, training does not matter; again Corbett has failed.
Fighters do not automatically intercept off course, radio out airliners. Corbett is batting zero. You picked one of the dumbest persons on 911 issues you could find using google!

These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists ...

There are 19 terrorists, Corbett gets one thing right.

who liked to drink alcohol, snort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers, ...

I have lived with Saudi people, they do drink, in secret, but in the USA, they can drink in the open. Corbett has unsupported nonsense, which means nothing.

Even if true, and you have no sources to back up this Corbett claptrap, it has no bearing on 911, or the 19 terrorists. You failed to weed out the junk.

managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in New York, ...

So? Planes moving at 470 and 590 mph would do massive damage. The 66,000 pounds of jet fuel has the heat energy of 315 tons of thermite. No need for thermite here.

while in Washington a pilot who could’t handle a single engine Cessna was ...

LIAR, Corbett is a LIAR. Hani was able to fly a Cessna, but the flight service would not rent him a plane unless he got more instructor time. Corbett is a liar.

The instructor said Hani would be able to fly a 757 after it was already flying. Corbett failed to any rational research. Corbett put together shoddy work to fool people as gullible as you are. You posted lies by Corbett and have no clue what you are doing.

able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corskscrew turn ...

What does this mean. I have the FDR and RADAR data. This was a decent of 8,000 feet, and a turn to loose that altitude. A turn, very sloppy turn, not precise, not fancy, easy to do.

Corbett makes a simple turn and descent sound hard to do. Were you fooled by this? If you were fooled you don't know anything about flying, you are as bad as Balsamo, and he claims to be a pilot.

to come exactly level with the ground, ...

Corbett spreads a lie, due to poor research and ignorance. Flight 77 never leveled off, got very close, but never level. Why are you posting lies?

hitting the Pentagon in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the 2.3 trillion dollars ...

Another lie.

that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced “missing” from the Pentagon’s coffers in a press conference the day before, on September 10, 2001. ...

This is a lie, the money was not missing.

You posted a bunch of lies from Corbett. Why are you posting lies? Why are you so easy to fool on 911? SPAM attack.

 

[BStrong]

He doesn't. He stole that long text from somewhere else without giving credit.
Shame on him.

Here's where:

http://www.fulldocumentary.com/default.asp?action=listing&id=731

Naughty naughty.

 

[SpringHallConvert]

I think you're confusing a sub-plot of the X-Files with historical reality. Operation Paperclip didn't overlap with Project MKULTRA.

Yet ANOTHER straw man logical fallacy.

Who said anything about the two operations overlapping?

 

[Nick Terry]

Yet ANOTHER straw man logical fallacy.

Who said anything about the two operations overlapping?

why, the wall-o-text which your buddy spammed said exactly that

Project Paperclip, bringing in Nazi war criminals to our country, who then started MKULTRA,

there's no room for doubt here, the sentence states quite clearly that Project Paperclip brought in Nazi war criminals who then started MKULTRA.

If you think it's clever to misrepresent what is clearly written only a post before, then get a life. And welcome to ignore, troll.

 

[arielflight]

His name is Jochen Scholz. What does it matter?

Now you:

Please provide details of that protocol,and elucidate for us

• What time intervals do these protocols allow for a) time from noticing problem to alerting NORAD b) Time from alerting NORAD to fighter lift-off c) Time from fighter lift-off to intercept (fighter actually behind target).
• Tell us where in the USA there are actual fighters on alert that can be used for such intercepts, and discuss what that means with regard to the time until intercepting airliners anywhere within the Continental USA
• How often had the rotocal been put into action in the years before 9/11 to actually intercept civilian planes over the Continental USA?
• What was the mean, and the shortest, time interval was from first sign of a problem to issuing an alarm at NORAD to actual intercept (fighter follows target close behind) for these intercepts over the Continental USA?
• Then discuss the time intervals actually available on 9/11, location of alert fighters, actual event, and compare with protocols and experience before 9/11!

I think if you go through that, you will find that there was absolutely no chance at all to intercept, let alone shoot down, AA11 and UA 175 even assuming perfect information and actions by all concerned. As for AA77, you will find that, while it may have been physically possible to intercept that flight, it wasn't actually possible because the various agencies did not share whatever information arose perfectly and efficiently. There might have been a slim chance to intercept UA93 if it had not crashed before getting closer to the east coast.

If you have trouble doing that research, feel free to ask for assistance. But it could be a good exercise for you to try it on your own. [snipped Scholz story] Working with factual information, you will find that NORAD had its resources too thinly spread since the end of the Cold War and some cut-backs after 1991.

Sources matter. Right?
Do you want the 9/11 Commission's Report for the source or the Department of Transportation Inspector General Report, or all the shredded tapes which of course are no longer in existence(nytimes.com2004/05/06) for the actual timeline for the events of that day?
So we will have a true idea if the protocols would have made a difference.

 

[beachnut]

Sources matter. Right?
Do you want the 9/11 Commission's Report for the source or the Department of Transportation Inspector General Report, or all the shredded tapes which of course are no longer in existence(nytimes.com2004/05/06) for the actual timeline for the events of that day?
So we will have a true idea if the protocols would have made a difference.

Wow, you sure are confused. All your claims are debunked. You need to stop your copy and paste SPAM attack, and make a point, one at a time.

Why not try slowing down and pick your best point, and defend it without plagiarizing failed 911 truth web sites?

 

[000063]

19 terrorists? Or 19 Mossad agents? Or 19 guys who thought they were serving Muslim interests when in fact they were serving U.S. interests?

There's a massive difference. Let me know when you get to the bottom of this.

Wow, you are really dedicated! With all the evidence you've presented, the DA will have to act! Good job, you'll receive a commendation from the Chief for sure!

Researchers "connect the dots"

Conspiracy theorist ask you to do it yourself....

And in many cases, claim the dots exist, but want you to go find them.

Arielflight didn't need to, nor was he/she required to to qualify his statement, therefore you did engage in a straw man fallacy.

It's as plain as day.

The irony is that you've misunderstood him so much that you're engaging in a Straw Man yourself. And you clearly don't understand the meaning of the term.

What others? Source? How do you know he's a child who needs attention? Source?

Well, I mentioned that he wasn't born before 1990, and he has steadfastly refused to deny it. He has said I can't prove it, but that's rather different from simply saying he was born before 1990. Unless it was just his habit of gainsaying whatever assertion someone makes that he doesn't like.

Or course, I'm not far past 21 myself.

And who is this Lt Colonel of the German Airforce?

I love that for all your bluster, that's the only thing you dared to question.

 

[000063]

why, the wall-o-text which your buddy spammed said exactly that



there's no room for doubt here, the sentence states quite clearly that Project Paperclip brought in Nazi war criminals who then started MKULTRA.

If you think it's clever to misrepresent what is clearly written only a post before, then get a life. And welcome to ignore, troll.

Five bucks says he went tl;dr, or honestly didn't notice.

Sources matter. Right?
Do you want the 9/11 Commission's Report for the source or the Department of Transportation Inspector General Report, or all the shredded tapes which of course are no longer in existence(nytimes.com2004/05/06) for the actual timeline for the events of that day?
So we will have a true idea if the protocols would have made a difference.

You have evidence that was destroyed? Wow! Why didn't you use your time machine to warn them about 911?

 

[A W Smith]

The truth is, I have you guys over a barrel here. You know it. I know it. Everyone reading here knows it. You won't admit it, but we both know the real score. You guys can't back any of your theories up, and it is driving you absolutely bonkers.

Everyone reading here knows you have no evidence of US involvement. All you have is a negative proof logical fallacy. The only imbecile you are fooling is yourself.

A negative proof is a logical fallacy which takes the structure of:
X is true because there is no proof that X is false. If the only evidence for something's existence is a lack of evidence for it not existing, then the default position is one of skepticism and not credulity. This type of negative proof is common in proofs of God's existence or in pseudosciences where it is used to attempt to shift the burden of proof onto the skeptic rather than the proponent of the idea. The burden of proof is on the individual proposing existence, not the one questioning existence.

 

[fess]

I read in the newspaper that Barnum & Bailey were looking to hire. Knowing that our resident trolls can’t be gainfully employed, I submitted their names for the two open clown positions. After reading a few of their posts, Barnum & and Bailey said they were interested. However, they do need a resume. It shouldn’t be hard, they only asked for name, address and phone number.

No need to thank me.

 

[trustbutverify]

Everyone reading here knows you have no evidence of US involvement. All you have is a negative proof logical fallacy. The only imbecile you are fooling is yourself.

Of course, you're 100% correct. But that doesn't matter. After wasting 10 odd years of their lives on what they now realize was nonsense, these guys have decided to go down with the ship.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Now that's a good question. This represents a serious conundrum, doesn't it?

Tossing the whole 9/11 debate aside for a moment, what happens in a modern, supposedly democratic, sovereign society if and when the State commits a massive crime against the people it pretends to represent? Who has the power, resources, and authority to investigate such a crime other than the State itself, which maintains a total monopoly on the both the legal and justice systems?

Well, we don't have to imagine this scenario because this is the reality. This is the reality of America post-9/11.

Paranoid much?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

I don't attempt to answer the question because frankly I don't know how. Even if We the People tried to create our own investigation using our own resources, the State could interdict and declare anyone involved a "domestic terrorist". The State - our State - has the power to disappear nearly anyone now without due process. The FBI could infiltrate and disrupt. False charges could be trumped up. A foreign war could be started to distract attention. A false flag attack could be carried out. The government could stonewall at every turn. The list goes on and on...

Our government has enormous financial and coercive resources at its disposal.

How sad for you.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Why can't you provide proof of Al-Qaeda's independence, legitimacy, and operational autonomy? I mean, that's a pretty important part of the whole government truth movement, isn't it? Because if Al-Qaeda did receive State sponsorship or support on 9/11, then what you guys believe about what occurred on that day would be radically different, no?

If you can't provide proof of Al-Qaeda's independence, legitimacy, and operation autonomy, then you must admit that your theory of 9/11 is based on mere speculation. That would mean you are no different than any of the conspiracy theorists you mock, right?

The truth is, I have you guys over a barrel here. You know it. I know it. Everyone reading here knows it. You won't admit it, but we both know the real score. You guys can't back any of your theories up, and it is driving you absolutely bonkers.

Delusions of grandeur much?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

They have no response other than:

"But, but, but, the government says it's true and since I spent my life being indoctrinated in a government indoctrination camp, I don't have the thinking skills to question anything! So you're wrong! I just know it! Just because!!!

Please grow up. Everyone will be happier, including you.

 

[GlennB]

Why can't you provide proof of Al-Qaeda's independence, legitimacy, and operational autonomy? I mean, that's a pretty important part of the whole government truth movement, isn't it? Because if Al-Qaeda did receive State sponsorship or support on 9/11, then what you guys believe about what occurred on that day would be radically different, no?

If you can't provide proof of Al-Qaeda's independence, legitimacy, and operation autonomy, then you must admit that your theory of 9/11 is based on mere speculation. That would mean you are no different than any of the conspiracy theorists you mock, right?

The truth is, I have you guys over a barrel here. You know it. I know it. Everyone reading here knows it. You won't admit it, but we both know the real score. You guys can't back any of your theories up, and it is driving you absolutely bonkers.

This is not even good trolling. Good trolling leads the victims into futile discussion. This just invites derision, so consider yourself derided.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

The very fact that neither government fabricated 'proof' of WMDs after the invasion is of course a perennial problem for truthers. I've still yet to hear anyone explain why Bush et al slipped up so badly on that one when they were supposedly able to orchestrate 9/11 and whatnot...

You fool! That shows just how cunning and devious and eee-vil the government is! Here, let me show you:

• If there were WMD in Iraq: inside job
• If there were no WMD in Iraq: inside job

Geeze, what are you, stupid?!