The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job
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We can safely add "buying furniture at Ikea" to the list of concepts that this poster cannot apply to the events of 9/11.
I mean, how thick do you need to be to fail to understand that office buildings full of people working are mostly air.
SpitfireIX
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Why do you keep assuming that this would have been done immediately? Isn't it possible that the pilots were using their hands to try to protect themselves from being murdered?
In 1994 a suicidal employee attempted to hijack and crash Federal Express Flight 705WP. The would-be hijacker, armed with a hammer, inflicted severe injuries on all three crewmembers before being subdued. Please explain why the crew never squawked 7500 at any point during the incident. Bear in mind that this was only one hijacker against three crewmembers--much better odds than the pilots of American 11, United 175, American 77, and United 93 faced.
Why do you assume that the passengers would have resisted when the hijackers claimed to have bombs? From CNN:
Further, why do you assume the doors were locked? If all doors were locked, then why did United Airlines send warnings to all of its flights to beware of cockpit intrusion, and to secure cockpit doors? Also, how do you know that the flight attendants weren't forced to open the cockpit doors at knife-point? (They did have keys.)
One unarmed man against four or five knife-armed hijackers? And again, you are conveniently ignoring the fact that the conventional wisdom prior to the September 11 attacks was that the best way to survive a hijacking was to cooperate with the hijackers. "Do as they say, and eventually we'll be released or rescued."
Apparently you've formed your conclusions without bothering to do any real research, and, frankly, you don't seem to be interested in dealing with any evidence that could shake those conclusions.
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Why is 911 truth math free, physics free and a most anti-intellectual movement?
The question is how tall would a rubble pile be after 110 story buildings collapse.
1. Fact one, the buildings are 95 percent air, you can't rent out solid space so they make buildings with lots of space. You can rent space.
Next, take 0.05 and multiply by 110 stories to get 5.5 stories. Why can't you do math?
Nothing turned the steel into dust, that is moronic insanity. Steel into dust is a lie, made up by insane people.
The dust at the WTC was mostly wallboard, ceiling tiles, fire insulation from under the floors, insulation, and some of the light-weight concrete 4 inch floors. The WTC insulation on the steel columns was 3 inches of wallboard (gypsum). Have you failed to read the dust REAL dust study?
You have wasted no time doing research on 911 and disrespect those who died by presenting moronic insanity from idiots in your videos of woo. How high do you have to get to fall for the lies you present?
You think steel turned to dust! An insane claim.
And you can't do math to figure out the WTC towers could fit in 5.5 stories.
Math and science! Things you can add to your don't do list.
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Ruppert, Rupert is an actor.
You are gullible. You present delusions to support your delusions, and you don't know you are without facts and evidence. Unarmed.
How can someone that stupid be believed? Mike Ruppert is full of nonsense, but that is what you get with nuts who can't figure out 911.
Mike Ruppert said he would take his evidence to the DA. Mike Ruppert has no evidence, he has silly claims only a few nuts believe. Big failure. Ruppert was a nut, he says JFK was shot from the front, is paranoid, and can't keep promises.
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Cl1mh4224rd
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I wouldn't say it's impossible, but I doubt your typical airline pilot is trained in close-quarters, hand-to-hand combat.
Also, the hijacker could just switch the knife to his other hand.
I'm both the owner of a construction company and an Australian actor.
Odd. I wouldn't think there would be that many people named "000063".
Unavailable. For some reason, no one was willing to climb up the pile of rubble with a tape measure immediately after a skyscraper collapsed. Also, the towers collapsed a good time apart.
So your previous question was entirely rhetorical?
That's not exactly the NIST explanation. And I know you think the answer is "no", even if you don't know the towers were mostly air.
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1) Did you ever fly prior to 9/11? Did you ever look at how flimsy the doors were?
2) If you actually knew anything about 9/11 and weren't simply parroting CT speak you might remember the hijackers butchered a flight attendant to force the pilots to allow them entry.
3) "Some pilots" but not "all pilots" - wonder why?
4) Since the pilots had already announced over the air they were being hijacked, why did they need to waste time dialing 7500?
5) Since the hijackers were trained commercial pilots, do you think they might have known about the 7500 code and been prepared to stop the pilots from dialing it? See comment #2 for how that happened.
Could be an infinite amount, doesn't matter. At the time the procedure was to not take action but wait and see. That's what the hijackers knew and took advantage of. And of course by the fourth plane it no longer worked, the passengers fought back and the plane was crashed.
Could four lunatics with razor sharp box cutters held to the throats of flight attendants give the passengers pause, long enough for them to seize the cockpit?
Same lunatic argument from incredulity you hear after any massacre, "There were more of them than he had bullets. Why didn't they just charge him?"
This is a movie.
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arielflight
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From John Farmer, Senior Council to the 9/11 Commission:
Farmer states...“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened... I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin
In 2006, The Washington Post reported..."Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission..."
These comments do not mean a thing?! Even the 9/11 Commission knew they did not have the truth!
Most of the os supporters on here, do nothing but belittle anyone who questions anything.
Insults are irrelevant to the topic! You just show your hate, which proves nothing!
I have spent a lot of time trying to inform myself of the facts by wasting time reading thru these hateful posts, to understand what the hell happened that day, and all I get from most os supporters are insults, and no proof of anything!
I have looked at all sides, researched rebuttals to "the truthers", because I want to get the whole picture, which I probably never will, but it is important to me, to get the facts that are available.
What would you do if you did find by your own research everything including "the crazy truthers" that 9/11 was an inside job? Could you be honest enough to admit it?
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NoahFence
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And yet the conclusions remain unchanged.
Because that's what happened. 19 terrorists + 4 aircraft.
DGM
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Have you ever heard the expression "cover your ass"?
How does any of this negate the "OS"?
Welcome BTW.
DGM
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I have and I have not. In fact, I bet I know more about the event then you do (as with most here). If I did find something, I would do something about it, Unlike "truthers".
Now, Let's watch this brave "truther" run away.
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Oystein
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Have you researched what John Farmer believed really happened? If not, I don't see why you drop his name in the same post where you brag of your research efforts. If you know what Farmer thinks, then the rest of your post makes no sense.
John Farmer doesn't think it was an inside job.
So your question is purely hypothetical at this point. You better try to find real issues to debate. This is just cheap, manipulative rhetoric.
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It's sad that the date on that post reads "2012".
But only slightly sadder than a similar post with "2006" on the time stamp.