The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

[BasqueArch]

naudet video was staged
www.911foreknowledge.com/staged.htm

Did Naudet also stage the video of being in the WTC1 lobby with Chief Nigro and over 100 firefighters and police as WTC2 collapsed 100 feet away.

 

[Robrob]

Passports are very sturdy yet lightweight items. That a passport was found with little to no damage indicates nothing more than it suffered little to no damage in the crash. Since this is well within the realm of physical possibility, there is nothing to debate.

Argument from coincidence?

 

[Edx]

PASSPORT.

Look, its not the only other perishable items that fell from the planes. So you'd have to believe there was a team of black ops ninjas running around planting all kinds of things under everyones noses.

Also, its not the first time something like this had happened:
LA TIMES - "Note of Doom Found in PSA Jet Wreckage"

So how did that happen?


Maybe ask yourself why if its so unreasonable to find a passport, why they would do it in the first place!

 

[Robrob]

Comparison/Mass Fail

~1 lb Soda Cans do not equal 300,000 lb Aircraft.

The only thing you verified here is that you don't understand physics...among other things.

500 mph = 733 fps.

A paintball going 300 feet per second (fps) is moving at 204.5 mph.

A .38 special round is going 770 feet per second = 525 mph.

Which would hurt more? Which would penetrate a wall?

 

[TJM]

naudet video was staged
www.911foreknowledge.com/staged.htm

What's wrong with this picture? On 9/11 at
about 8.45 am, with the first plane still miles
away. Spot the firemen, as invisible as the
alleged gas leak; the real subject being where it
usually is - in the centre, as in "World Trade."

The firemen are behind that shot.



I stopped reading at that point.

 

[Oystein]

[qimg]http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/AJM8125/Naudet.jpg[/qimg]

The firemen are behind that shot.



I stopped reading at that point.

I am at a loss why the guy concentrates on the lack of firemen, and why the firetruck doesn't count... And why would it be so unusual that Naudet shows the twin towers to give the viewer a feel for where they are in Manhattan? The entire page is full of Non Sequiturs and Texas Barn Doors.

 

[leftysergeant]

I wonder how it escaped the attention of that moron that his even mentioning the Czech tourist blows his theory out of the water, utterly shivered and in pieces.

It would really help if he knew the first thing about fires, fire fighting and fire fighters.

Am I right in assuming that this twit is American? That would explain why he cannot grasp what two French men would be doing making a documentary about an American rookie fire fighter. Europeans generally hold fire fighters in higher regard than is the case in America. I got the impression while I was in Germany that the two instituions most cherished by the people of even small towns were their local museums and the fire departments. Most put on yearly festivals to honor the fire fighters.

So we have two young male European film makers who want to do a project in America. Gee, what might seem an interesting aspect of American life that hasn't been done to death?

I have a big palm print on my forehead already.

In case you haven't noticed from the posts of those of us who have had any experience in the field, fire fighters love to talk about their jobs. There is a sense of adventure about it that can only be matched by a military career, but fire fighters generally have fewer hobgoblins following them around from operations gone terribly wrong. When the compost meets the ventilating device, their lives may be in great peril, but, when it is over, they may have also accomplished something, perhaps a remarkable rescue, perhaps a massive loss of property narrowly avoided only because of some brilliant maneuver, that they can look back on years later and say to themselves "It was all worth it."

So, somebody wants to make a film about your department? Hell, yeah. At least it breaks the ponderous monotony that is the normal day at the fire station.

Thus, having Jules standing there watching a group of fire fighters performing a dull routine task just as the world does a sudden pinwheel around them is not the least bit strange.

I have to question whether the author of the article in question has any clue what it really means to be a fire fighter, or even to be a man.

Maybe there are alien reptilian infiltraters among us.

 

[oody]

[qimg]http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/AJM8125/Naudet.jpg[/qimg]

The firemen are behind that shot.



I stopped reading at that point.

Thanks for posting that. From the tone of the opening paragraphs of the 26,000-word article, they gave the distinct impression that the camera was just sitting in that position, waiting. Instead, one can make out the same three vehicles in their grabbed frame from one instant in time as the camera is whirling around. A very dishonest piece of "journalism."

 

[leftysergeant]

Thanks for posting that. From the tone of the opening paragraphs of the 26,000-word article, they gave the distinct impression that the camera was just sitting in that position, waiting. Instead, one can make out the same three vehicles in their grabbed frame from one instant in time as the camera is whirling around. A very dishonest piece of "journalism."

The author goes on at some length about how the fire fighters would not want some dork with a camera under their feet.

Derrr! Jules was standing between them and their truck where he would be out of the way. He was showing good situational awareness, which is kind of important when you are doing a documentary on people in a noteably dangerous profession.

 

[Mudcat]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA

MK Ultra... really? You do believe that that has never existed outside the realm of the severely deluded, right?

There's just a bit of background on US government mind control. Your argument assumes that those directly involved in such an operation even have total cognitive awareness of what they're doing or that they would remember any of it afterwards.

First you reference MK Ultra and then you you spout this nonsense? According to the MK Ultra Project (which never happened in reality), 'mind control' is impossible.

Oh but wait, mind control is just a conspiracy theory. Yawn.

It is, got evidence stating otherwise?

 

[TJM]

Thanks for posting that. From the tone of the opening paragraphs of the 26,000-word article, they gave the distinct impression that the camera was just sitting in that position, waiting. Instead, one can make out the same three vehicles in their grabbed frame from one instant in time as the camera is whirling around. A very dishonest piece of "journalism."

Cheers oody and you're welcome.

The video was grabbed from the Naudet Brother's CBS 9/11 documentary. The actual shot was grabbed just a tad before the impact:

And in another blatant attempt at deception, just four seconds before the screen grab of the "invisible firemen", these fellows can be seen wandering about:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ul2g_9-11-by-the-naudet-brothers-2-of-6_news#rel-page-3

I realize the truther article is from 2006 and all, but I can't recall a more transparent lie from a truther at the moment, though I'm sure one will come to me. Apparently they succeeded in fooling at least one truther and that's enough to keep the lie alive.

 

[silver birch]

Comparison/Mass Fail

~1 lb Soda Cans do not equal 300,000 lb Aircraft.

The only thing you verified here is that you don't understand physics...among other things.

there is no comparison, that was a real soda can. the planes that hit the towers were cartoon planes.

 

[Architect]

Prove it.

 

[leftysergeant]

there is no comparison, that was a real soda can. the planes that hit the towers were cartoon planes.

Please tell me this is a Poe.

 

[leftysergeant]

Cheers oody and you're welcome.

The video was grabbed from the Naudet Brother's CBS 9/11 documentary. The actual shot was grabbed just a tad before the impact:

[qimg]http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/AJM8125/Naudet2.jpg[/qimg]

So the camera is pointed at the towers because everybody on scene was looking that way to get a look at the aircraft when it hit the next open space in that direction. About as noteworthy as seeing a Starbucks sign in Seattle.

 

[Sabretooth]

Please tell me this is a Poe.

It's got to be. SB's posting history suggests he's got a level head. I think he/she is just playing around.

 

[Architect]

phew!

 

[TJM]

It's got to be. SB's posting history suggests he's got a level head. I think he/she is just playing around.

**** ************.

 

[leftysergeant]

First you reference MK Ultra and then you you spout this nonsense? According to the MK Ultra Project (which never happened in reality), 'mind control' is impossible.

On the other hand, if there is anything to it, this raises the possiblity that Stubblebine was in on it.

 

[tmd2_1]

This is the conspiracy:

• The plan is to create and carry out, in secret, an attack on multiple targets in the US, made to appear to be the work of religious extremists from the Middle East (Difficulty Rating: high)
• The plan (here defined by what ended up taking place, although it would likely start as something broader and be refined along the way) must be conceived and shared with at least one person, both of whom must carry the secret forever, risking careers, family, probably the death penalty, as well as the same for co-conspirators who would be implicated in short order (DR: high)
• The plan must be conceived and outlined, creating some kind of paper and/or electronic trail
• Subsets of the plan must each be delegated to lieutenants, recruited (see above re: risks) and charged with its execution (DR: high)

Here on things get a little difficult to outline. The reason being whatever your method du jour, be it no planes, or remote controlled planes, or planted plane parts, or voice morphing technology, or live video animation overlay, or space beams, or mini nukes, or the Twin Towers being constructed with explosives to be detonated three decades later, or Pentagon fly-overs with roadway light poles and other debris and body parts strewn around outside to make it look like a jetliner crashed into the building, to faked craters in the field in Pennsylvania, to whatever Tom-Clancy-lite stews the conspiracy-minded have cooked up over the years, would each require some different elements of conception, planning, procurement, staffing, and execution, as to make it way too difficult to describe here. So for the sake of simplicity, not that it in reality begins to approach that ideal, let’s just stick to “controlled demolition” of the Twin Towers and WTC 7, including the presence of four passenger airliners.

• Subsets include but not limited to: air strike on WTC 1, secret demolition of WTC 1, air strike on WTC 2, secret demolition of WTC 2, secret demolition of WTC 7, air strike on the Pentagon, secret explosion at the Pentagon, crash in Pennsylvania (presumably designed into the plan, as any preparation for a false hit by the 4th airliner (generally considered after-the-fact to be either the White House or the capital building) would be untenably risky)

Shall I continue? Okay.

• Each subset of the plan requires a budget
• Each subset must be funded, creating a paper and/or electronic trail (DR: medium-high)
• Each conspirator must be provided a fee, sufficient to offset the extraordinary risks involved, and this added to the budget (DR: difficult to speculate)
• An account or accounts must be created for the purposes of funding the plan, each one active (with numerous and high-dollar expenditures most every step), creating a paper and/or electronic trail (DR: medium)
• The plan must be initiated at some point and work towards its execution, presumably determined along the way. In any event, the plan cannot be overly long in its gestation lest it either be discovered or given away, either accidentally or intentionally

Let’s briefly look at just one subset, demolition of WTC 1, as an example of the complexity involved in such an undertaking.

Assuming the building would need to be wired for “controlled demolition” (a much-abused term, but adequate for this discussion), we have to: 1) gather a crew of sufficient numbers and expertise (I cannot speculate how large the number would be, but let’s go wildly conservative and say ten); 2) pay for their cooperation as well as take whatever steps necessary to ensure their lifelong secrecy, the same as the project lieutenants; 3) develop a plan; 4) procure materials, including untold spools of wiring, detonators, remote devices, installation tools (drills, saws, crimpers, ladders, lighting, breathing masks, etc.) transportation, false IDs, and various & sundry; 4) make numerous trips transporting materials from an origin warehouse to the site or a staging area nearby (which would have to be found and rented ahead of time); 5) provide some scripted preparation to the crew for the purpose of impromptu interaction with building personnel, security, or the general public; 6) set to work; 7) proceed in such a way as to not call attention to the tasks, knowing that, after the fact, many witnesses would recall anything unusual, including the exposure of numerous portions of support structure of the tower, one of the two largest building in Manhattan; 8) continue and maintain the secret work, including final patch, painting, carpeting and trim repair, and cleanup, for however many long days the task would require.

Again, all this and much more would be necessary for even a modest-size team to secretly plan, devise, and install the numerous elements of only one of the multiple components of the events of Sept. 11, 2001.

But is it possible?

Is it possible to find a few much less dozens of people, presumably American, to wage war on their fellow unarmed citizens?

Is it possible that not one of these dozens of treasonous, murdering cowards would, over the course of the many months leading up to the attacks, not accidentally or on purpose divulge even some small detail to a drinking buddy? A wife or girlfriend? A mother or father?

Is it possible that not one of these cold-blooded conspirators, likely in fear of their safety (as well as that of their loved ones), not put in place testimony and evidence so as to reveal the plan to the FBI, the media, their congressman, senator and others should anything happen to them once the deed was done?

Is it possible that the architects of the plan would expect that the team members could keep quiet for the rest of their lives, never to give in to conscience and guilt?

Is it possible that no amount of what would be an astounding amount of physical evidence at the scene would ever turn up?

Is it possible that no emails, text messages, hard-drives, letters, receipts or other supporting communications evidence ever turn up?

Is it possible that the mastermind(s) of what would be the largest and most complex conspiracy in history not have at some point said, “Y’know, there’s way too much that can go wrong here. Why don’t we just plant some bombs on a few high-visibility targets, plant a couple bodies as evidence, and do some follow-up messages to the world’s media? It would take only a half-dozen guys, tops.”

Is it possible that the mastermind(s), having gone to all the months of planning and execution of this massive plot, all to play the American public, not have followed up with several easy-to-manage attacks like that described in the paragraph above so as to keep the apparent terror threat high and palpable?

Is it possible that the mastermind(s), so adept at plotting and executing a wildly intricate plan in the middle of the most populous city in the US so as to apparently justify war on Iraq under the guise of the pre-emptive removal of weapons of mass-destruction, not toss a couple WMD out the back of a cargo plane to the Iraqi desert below so as to provide justification for the war? Y’know, instead of suffering the rebuke of most of the civilized world as well as diminished stature when they, in fact, never turned up?

The answer can only be no. For some of this, much less all of it, to take place successfully is not possible. Not even a little. And there’s a word for when something is not possible.

Impossible.

I love posts like this. You know the "lack of paper trail". You know because the paper trail linking OBL and AQ is airtight.