The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

chipmunk stew said:
Only in the theoretical sense that nothing is impossible so long as it doesn't violate the laws of nature.

But you're arguing a semantic point. The probability of all the elements of even the most basic inside job theory proposed being pulled off without so much as a trace of hard evidence is so vanishingly small that for all intents and purposes, it's impossible. It's 100%* impossible.


*+0/-some vanishingly small decimal that may as well be 0
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All of that assumes the the operation would have been carried out according to your expectations and presumptions. It's possible you underestimate the rigidity of the organizational structure at play here. If indeed that possibility is reality, then your calculation of the possibility of the success of the overall operation is invalid.
 
fess said:
Another well put together intellectual post. I’m really impressed. This is the reason I think forums like JREF should require proof of age before allowing membership.Did you study under Jammonius, or is he just one of your idols?
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Are you under the impression that the post I was responding to was "well put together"?
 
tempesta29 said:
All of that assumes the the operation would have been carried out according to your expectations and presumptions. It's possible you underestimate the rigidity of the organizational structure at play here. If indeed that possibility is reality, then your calculation of the possibility of the success of the overall operation is invalid.
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There's no 9/11 inside job scenario that has more than a vanishingly small probability (essentially zero) of both being pulled off without a trace of hard evidence and leaving behind a solid cover story that elegantly fits all the available evidence and is simple enough to withstand Occam's Razor.

Maybe you'll be the first to pull it all together into something coherent.
 
tempesta29 said:
It's as if you didn't read my first post, hence why you made no rebuttal to it. Your paper trail business is just laughable. 100%. Laughable. One-hundred-percent. 50% X 2 = 100% + laughable = 100% laughable.
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There was nothing in your first post worthy of rebuttal, just a handwaving and some vague rambling about mind control and a link to a Wikipedia article. I've yet to see you prove anything that's remotely plausible, let alone possible.
 
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tempesta29 said:
And that research involved unwitting human guinea pigs whose minds were controlled.

And you have no real evidence that research died and would be naive in thinking it actually did. Since when does the government stop research because of moral obligation? Please tell me you're not that naive.
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Has the government ever controlled your mind?

Do you hear voices in your head?
 
tempesta29 said:
Are you under the impression that the post I was responding to was "well put together"?
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As well put together as all your others. These guys are really intrigued by you. However I am pretty sure that they will ever convince you to change your mind.

It is far better than logical debate. Keep up the good work.
 
Quiproquo said:
This argument does not seem to debunk the possibility that war simulations may have been a means to carry out the attcks, but only strenghtens it.
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Did you know that the exorcize involving a hijacked aircraft was a joint exorcize involving the US and the Canadians? That would insinuate that the Canadians were “in on it” too. The plot is really getting thick, even by “truther” standards.
 
Telltale Tom said:
As well put together as all your others. These guys are really intrigued by you. However I am pretty sure that they will ever convince you to change your mind.

It is far better than logical debate. Keep up the good work.
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:p
 
fess said:
Did you know that the exorcize involving a hijacked aircraft was a joint exorcize involving the US and the Canadians? That would insinuate that the Canadians were “in on it” too. The plot is really getting thick, even by “truther” standards.
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Yeah but Canadians will do anything for a 6-pack.
 
WildCat said:
Has the government ever controlled your mind?

Do you hear voices in your head?
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This is how I always shut down any Truther who brings up "mind control":

1) If you have discovered some way to defeat the mind-control, why aren't you teaching it to us?

2) If you haven't discovered any way to defeat the mind-control, why are you still apparently unaffected?
 
1337m4n said:
This is how I always shut down any Truther who brings up "mind control":

1) If you have discovered some way to defeat the mind-control, why aren't you teaching it to us?

2) If you haven't discovered any way to defeat the mind-control, why are you still apparently unaffected?
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:tinfoil


edit: To be fair, I don't think Tempesta is suggesting remote mind control.
 
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tempesta29 said:
It's as if you didn't read my first post, hence why you made no rebuttal to it. Your paper trail business is just laughable. 100%. Laughable. One-hundred-percent. 50% X 2 = 100% + laughable = 100% laughable.
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If there's no paper trail then how are they communicating with the employees who are running this absurdly vast conspiracy?

Do you think that the people involved just memorized every single aspect of the plan, from movements to funding to cover-ups and all points in between?

They just MEMORIZED all of that?

Because that's the only alternative to having a paper trail.

Do you know how much paperwork is involved in even the most simple business transaction these days? Just in buying a soda at a grocery store, you create a receipt of purchase, a successful sale on the record of the employee at the counter, a successful sale on the record of the store as a whole, an increase in the store's cash-on-hand, and a decrease in the store's inventory. All of this is either paperwork or electronic data.

Just to do something as simple as buying a soda.
 
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I'd love to know how a one produces and installs hundreds of traceless, flawless incendiary devices without any paper/electronic/financial trail.

Guy obviously has never held a job dealing with anything tangible.
 
1337m4n said:
That's some fancy ignoring the point. Congrats.

Who's controlling the people running the mind-control machines?
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THEY do, of course. Haven't you seen his avatar? Put on the glasses! Put on the glasses! Possibly the worst fight scene ever in a movie:



Which South Park parodied in the "Cripple Fight" between Jimmy and Timmy.
 
Wow. Nearly as bad as TV's worst:



...Well not quite that bad, but still. Who choreographed that, Rowdy Roddy Piper?

I think I'll go fall asleep in front of Ong-Bak.
 
chipmunk stew said:
There's no 9/11 inside job scenario that has more than a vanishingly small probability (essentially zero) of both being pulled off without a trace of hard evidence and leaving behind a solid cover story that elegantly fits all the available evidence and is simple enough to withstand Occam's Razor.

Maybe you'll be the first to pull it all together into something coherent.
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Forget Occam, what about Murphy.
 
tempesta29 said:
Congrats on your NY Times reading. You must be very proud.

Ok. So you give a guy a gun, but you hypnotize him into believing his gun is a spray bottle of his favorite cologne. "You're going out on the town. Time to spruce up!" Then he shoots himself in the head. Did he shoot himself against his will? No.
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What? Are you capable of formulating a reasoned argument? How old are you?
 
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