The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

[achimspok]

For some reason I think someone will.

Read the name of the thread! Do you know what the topic is?

 

[beachnut]

Oops, who found it? The CIA? I win.

Your DNA is already discussed. I guess it was Carlitos who explained to you why that so called DNA evidence wouldn't pass any US court. I win again.

It would be hard for the passport not to be on Vessey Street, or any street that close to the WTC. It is realty, but you win, you live in a fantasy world, I have to pay to see movies and buy books to read to live in a fantasy world, you get it for free.

I like fantasy, you live it.

Oops, DNA is reality, you have talk, talk of fantasy.

The impossible inside job fantasy remains, the same.

 

[grandmastershek]

It shows that Atta had ties that leads back into US intelligence.

What about that shows someone took that passport and planted it? You speaka engrish?

Do you know what the topic is?

Achimspok's never ending parade of baseless claims?

 

[beachnut]

What about that shows someone took that passport and planted it? You speaka engrish?



Achimspok's never ending parade of baseless claims?

19 terrorists came to the United States to kill. They used surprise. They failed when the surprise wore off.

Objects survive impacts and a few fringe nut case conspiracy theorists make up lies of planted lampposts at the Pentagon, planted passports in NYC, and crazy claims about people with the same names as the terrorists, as if billions of people on earth don't share the same name, so it is a CIA plot, or the Jews did it. Are all 911 truth members failed NAZIs, or what?

 

[LightningTeg]

It shows that Atta had ties that leads back into US intelligence.

Why dont you read some of the **** you are shoveling?

There is strong evidence that the passport Suqami submitted with this application had fraudulent travel stamps now associated with al Qaeda.

....Suqami’s Saudi Arabian passport with numerous travel stamps, some of which were determined to be fraudulent. They include multiple travel to Instanbul, Malaysia, Oman, and Egypt. There are no travel stamps from Pakistan, Afghanistan, or Iran, all three locations likely destinations.

Although Suqami had false travel stamps in his passport as of 9/11, we do not know if these stamps were placed in his passport before or after submission of his visa application, although the dates on some of the false stamps pre-date the date he applied for his visa.

FBI reports revealed that Suqami’s passport was recovered by NYPD Detective Yuk H. Chin from a male passerby in a business suit, about 30 years old. The passerby left before being identified, while debris was falling from WTC 2. The tower collapsed shortly thereafter. The detective then gave the passport to the FBI on 9/11. Later analysis showed that it contained what are now believed to be fraudulent travel stamps associated with al Qaeda....

September 11. As the hijackers boarded four flights, American Airlines Flights 11 and 77, and United Airlines Flights 93 and 175, at least six used U.S. identification documents acquired in the previous months, three of which were fraudulently obtained in northern Virginia.

So your saying fraudulent stamps = US govt.?

 

[ozeco41]

Given the area of a truss, and the fire temperature, one could calculate the heat transfer and time required to get it to that temperature.

I would wish that it was so easy.

The reality was more complex. Multiple floor joists with top chords at least partially tied by decking and all the possibilities of one truss failure leading to load transfers to nearby trusses leading them to fail - in fact the setting for a mini-cascade failure of itself as a subset of the broader cascading failure which caused the initial collapse.

Couldn't even pretend to start explaining it.

But there were no fire suited invisible suicide volunteers in the midst of it setting cutting charges using self disappearing explosive devices and accessories.

 

[ozeco41]

...So your saying fraudulent stamps = US govt.?

If it was true that would set some sort of a record for number of quantum leaps of logic in a single claim.

Do we keep records?

 

[LightningTeg]

I would wish that it was so easy.

The reality was more complex. Multiple floor joists with top chords at least partially tied by decking and all the possibilities of one truss failure leading to load transfers to nearby trusses leading them to fail - in fact the setting for a mini-cascade failure of itself as a subset of the broader cascading failure which caused the initial collapse.

Couldn't even pretend to start explaining it.

But there were no fire suited invisible suicide volunteers in the midst of it setting cutting charges using self disappearing explosive devices and accessories.

Not talking about loading. Just the temperature. If it could achieve the temperature of the fire in 17 minutes, then sagging from weakening could be justified in the time frame.

 

[LightningTeg]

If it was true that would set some sort of a record for number of quantum leaps of logic in a single claim.

Do we keep records?

Well I mean thats his "evidence". That is not evidence. Fradualent stamps could be ties to anything. He could have done them in his basement ffs.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Do you not realize that the fuel vaporized and exploded after the airplane entered the building? Now we just need to know how the fuel overcame the passport without leaving a droplet on it. And we need to know how the passport escaped the fast expanding fireball. And we need to know what descelerated the passport while the rest of the airplane headed further south.

...or simply face the reality.

No, we don't need to know any of that. The reality of 9/11 doesn't hinge on that passport. It's corroborating evidence, but not crucial evidence. It's asterisk-level evidence. Its non-existence would change nothing. Your obsessive sorting of pointless minutiae makes a mockery of people such as Robert Shaler, who did the grisly work of actually sorting and identifying the remains of the victims from those of the hijackers:

http://www.newsweek.com/2009/01/02/remains-of-the-day.html

Get a better hobby. This one is disgusting and pathetic.

 

[chipmunk stew]

By the way, how come if you launch a cannonball it keeps going really far, but if you fire a confetti cannon, the confetti rapidly decelerates before fluttering to the ground nearby?

Oh yeah. Physics. I forgot.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Iamaniceguy = done with this thread

But not, apparently, 100% done.

Dave

 

[achimspok]

For some reason I think someone will.

Hint: Achim, in your version of reality do people normally jump around like that? Call me crazy but i am going to go out on a limb and guess that the security camera take a picture every few seconds and then it time stamps that shot. Please don't breed.

that the security camera take a picture every few seconds - right

If your equipment prints a timestamp into the picture then the timestamp is ALWAYS in the very same location just like the original timestamp.

Do you have any idea why you still see the matrix of some kind of sceen in the image? Why was that video NEVER EVER captured by the use of a usual video capture device?*** At least these images were used as "evidence" in the Mussaoui Trail.

*** one plausible reason: a screen matrix is the best way to hide any edits like wrong time stamps, wrong shadows, wrong persons... everything.

 

[achimspok]

Why dont you read some of the **** you are shoveling?

So your saying fraudulent stamps = US govt.?

I say the fraudulent stamps are probably the work of US intelligence. Anything else simply makes no sense. But surprise me with a plausible Al Qaeda fraud using additional stamps in an original passport and/or even correction fluid to hide (highlite) something that is still readable.

 

[achimspok]

By the way, how come if you launch a cannonball it keeps going really far, but if you fire a confetti cannon, the confetti rapidly decelerates before fluttering to the ground nearby?

Oh yeah. Physics. I forgot.

Uhh, that perfectly explains why the 8 mile debris field means "broken in midair".

Now we need a confetti cannon that fires backwards and we're almost done.
We just should try to expose the confetti to a fine spray of kerosene droplets before we prove that neither fire nor a 500mph impact could damage a Saudi passport. Fine.

 

[WildCat]

It shows that Atta had ties that leads back into US intelligence.

So you accept that Atta was a hijacker?

 

[triforcharity]

I wouldn't sign off on your new car just yet Triforcharity.

Is it possible that if you play the lottery your number will be called?

Yes, it is possible. Is it 50% possible, 100% possible, or 0.0001% possible? Hint: Trick question.

So your logic fails, badly. I would try to understand things better before attempting to make them into a joke.

Way to miss the joke completly.

The punchline: His logic is absolutely ****** from the word go.

 

[WildCat]

Uhh, that perfectly explains why the 8 mile debris field means "broken in midair".

Now we need a confetti cannon that fires backwards and we're almost done.

With some wind that confetti cannon can shoot 100 miles.

We just should try to expose the confetti to a fine spray of kerosene droplets before we prove that neither fire nor a 500mph impact could damage a Saudi passport. Fine.

Do you think a 1,000' fall would shatter a passport like it was made of glass?

 

[triforcharity]

Do you not realize that the fuel vaporized and exploded after the airplane entered the building?

No **** Sherlock.

Now we just need to know how the fuel overcame the passport without leaving a droplet on it.

Did you test the passport for trace elements of an accelerant?

And we need to know how the passport escaped the fast expanding fireball.

Just like the rest of the millions of papers did.

And we need to know what descelerated the passport while the rest of the airplane headed further south.

Air resistance?

Simple analogy for you.

Take 1000 pieces of loose paper, and throw them. What happens? They go in all different directions, with no rhyme or reason.

Now, take a book. Throw it. What happens?

...or simply face the reality.

You and reality haven't met in years. You wouldn't know it if it jumped up, bit you in the ass, and left a note.

 

[beachnut]

Uhh, that perfectly explains why the 8 mile debris field means "broken in midair".

Now we need a confetti cannon that fires backwards and we're almost done.
We just should try to expose the confetti to a fine spray of kerosene droplets before we prove that neither fire nor a 500mph impact could damage a Saudi passport. Fine.

Your delusions on 911, demolition, passports can't survive, now flight 93. What 8 miles debris field? Ooos, if it is 93, again the wind direction foils your failed opinions.

Saudi Passports are indestructible. Oops, wait for it...

This ID card was damaged. How do you know the passport had no signs of jet fuel? Why can't a passport fall on Vessey street; wait, were was it really found? Any idea?

You don't understand evidence, or video. Add that to your list of stuff hindering your understanding 911. What is your claim? The inside job delusion has failed, as you present post after post of rehashed failed lies already debunked years ago. Are you new to 911? Your demolition delusion failed, now what is your next already debunked blast from the past?

Why do you bring up people with the same name stuff?
Why did you bring up the stuff left behind?
What does baggage that fails to make a flight fit in your fantasy?