The $1,000,000 challenge fraud.

[connie sonne]

rjh01 "until then nothing she says has any credibility "

Then..... Why do you then follow me!!

 

[fromdownunder]

Then..... Why do you then follow me!!

(emphasis mine)

What a most telling turn of phrase Connie.

Norm

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

I've run across a magician's forum, where someone thinks Banachek did some slight of hand to purposely force that dowser woman to fail.

Another person brought up that it shouldn't be put past him, because of his "hoax against Washington University"

She agreed to the terms and conditions of the test before it was done.

This is just a post hoc excuse for a failure.

By the way, it's "sleight of hand".

If Ms. Sonne wants to file suit for fraud, the burden of proof is squarely on her shoulders.

 

[rjh01]

Connie, what you say is very funny. Pity it lacks any facts. I will talk to almost anyone who is civil to me. So far you have been civil.

It is not me that is stalking you. I am in Australia and have been for many years.

 

[GanipGnop]

What Impeccable Evidence

I've run across a magician's forum, where someone thinks Banachek did some slight of hand to purposely force that dowser woman to fail.

Another person brought up that it shouldn't be put past him, because of his "hoax against Washington University"

OMG your evidence is overwhelming, someone on the internet thinks there was fraud involved AND another person wouldn't put it past Banachek! Well that is certainly irrefutable evidence of something. Have you notified law enforcement of your findings? Maybe the "dowser woman" can use this evidence in court to fight her injustice at the hands of the evil Banachek and his magical minions.

 

[GzuzKryzt]

My name is CONNIE SONNE in both danish and english. And I had never said that Banachek did some slight of hands. It was people around who mentioned that. Yes Banachek cheats but it is through JREF and it`s quite another thing they do. I will write it all on my own website, and you will be surprized. www.conniesonne.dk

Connie, either you forget very fast or you are deliberately lying.
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Connie, could you please comment on this?

 

[Obviousman]

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Have you missed the fact the both JREF *and* Ms. Sonne cerified that when she was tested the first time?

Why would another test change this?
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Hmm - good point.

 

[Chris H]

I've run across a magician's forum, where someone thinks Banachek did some slight of hand to purposely force that dowser woman to fail.

Another person brought up that it shouldn't be put past him, because of his "hoax against Washington University"

You'll probably find it was the same person making both accusations. Don't pay too much attention to him. He's a nutcase.

 

[kuroyume0161]

Then..... Why do you then follow me!!

Well, you are here in the JREF forums posting this somewhat startling question.

I'm not following you (in the stalking sense anyway). I heard about the test, watched the live stream over the internet, and saw the results. I also visited your website and read your vindictive blog against JREF for alleged cheating.

A couple things to be noted here. If the video of the test between you and Banacheck was recorded then one could carefully review the entire procedure to see if any 'slight of hand' was done during it. Note: it is doubtful that 'slight of hand' could be perpetrated beyond all recognition of a video carefully observed in slow motion (frame-by-frame). Also, you agreed to the procedure as executed. If you simpy wanted a deck of cards splayed on the table after being shown every card in that deck, you should have specified it. If the 'cards were stacked against you' then you should more carefully be involved in the construction of the experiment - but it must still be considered within its probabilistic parameters (i.e.: you can't stack the cards in your favor either!).

The problem of double-blind testing wherein there are restrictions to information to certain parties is that it is then easy to claim that there was some cheating or preparatory bending of statistical results in the process of designing the experiment. This is always a possible case since there are people who are in the know (who are then removed from the actual test procedure) and those who are not (those who actually participate in the procedure). Clinical tests of medicines or medical procedures using double-blind standards are in the same situation. In the best of those done, neither the doctor nor the patient is allowed to be able to discover which of the medicines is being used or procedures is being done so as to disallow bias in the results. In real situations, this can mean that those receiving placebos are doomed whereas those receiving the actual medication improve (if the medication is actually efficacious). The key here is in the 'unknown' parameters of the experiment or procedure. They are only unknown to the direct participants but are known to those who have designed it to be fair and who must quantify it. They are looking for unbiased results - the participants cannot have a clue to achieve them.

The only point of contention here, if the experiment met with your approval and was designed well, is whether or not Banacheck received some form of preliminary information so as to bias the test (which I doubt but...). If the procedures as expressed were maintained and he had no knowledge of the envelope-within-envelope contents then there is nothing you can contend. The only compromise that I could see here is to redo the experiment and select a random person in the audience (or some person whom you trust lets say) who is first publicly told of the procedure and then the experiment proceeds. That would remove any issue of 'cheating' since this person could not possibly know the contents of the doubly-enveloped cards and could not in any way impart any bias.

 

[connie sonne]

Gzuzkrytz: I will be delighted to...

Forget very fast?? .....hmmm.....sometimes I do forget common things like my shoppinglist, but otherwise NO...Liar?? NO Gzuzkrytz...NOT AT ALL : I haver never used the words slight of hands. I noticed some other things,and I found the reasons for it too. You people out there believe SO MUCH in you God, that you don`t realized you are being dupped yourself. You only believe in what you see now and here, and believe all they says. But as I told you, I would write it all down, and I said September...And I STARTED in September, so I was NOT lying about that. It take time to write, both in danish and english, so you have to be patient!

Another thing: I did NOT say that I would get Maddie out in September: read it all again, then you will see, that you only read the half !


And to those of you who are not interested in my website: You better be.

 

[pakeha]

I'd like to know why Connie Sonne thinks there was cheating involved in her preliminary test.

 

[MattC]

Gzuzkrytz: I will be delighted to...

Forget very fast?? .....hmmm.....sometimes I do forget common things like my shoppinglist, but otherwise NO...Liar?? NO Gzuzkrytz...NOT AT ALL : I haver never used the words slight of hands. I noticed some other things,and I found the reasons for it too. You people out there believe SO MUCH in you God, that you don`t realized you are being dupped yourself. You only believe in what you see now and here, and believe all they says. But as I told you, I would write it all down, and I said September...And I STARTED in September, so I was NOT lying about that. It take time to write, both in danish and english, so you have to be patient!

Another thing: I did NOT say that I would get Maddie out in September: read it all again, then you will see, that you only read the half !


And to those of you who are not interested in my website: You better be.

Far be it from me, madam, to allege that you have found nothing (as several of my compatriots seem to enjoy doing) - however I must point out that we are still waiting for you to tell us precisely what it is you found out and how you did so. I am willing to grant you time to write (bilingualism is not easy), but frankly restating your accusation of cheating at every opportunity while expecting anyone to stand idly by while you take cheap shots is not good form.

~ Matt

 

[Pixel42]

You people out there believe SO MUCH in you God, that you don`t realized you are being dupped yourself.

You believe SO MUCH in your ability that you don't realise you are duping yourself.

You only believe in what you see now and here, and believe all they says.

Only when all the ways in which you can dupe yourself are carefully and methodically eliminated, as they were in the JREF test, can you safely believe what you see now and here. Have you repeated that exact same test with someone you trust in Banachek's place and got a different result? Until you can answer yes to that question no-one here is going to listen to your vague and unfounded allegations. In fact you are laying yourself open to serious libel charges.

And to those of you who are not interested in my website: You better be.

That sounds like a threat. Are you threatening us, Connie?

 

[bluesjnr]

I'd like to know why Connie Sonne thinks there was cheating involved in her preliminary test.

That one is easy pakeha; she failed. In her mind she is infallible ergo when she failed it could only be as a result of cheating.

Ms Sonne impressed many, myself included, on here when putting together the protocol. I thought that we would see something very rarely seen - an individual who sits down and takes stock of their life after being presented with the fact that they could not perform their magical feat. I hoped she might realise that she was wasting her life with these ridiculous claims. I am saddened to say that I was deluded in that regard.

Prior to the test she came across as really nice. When she failed she became and still is bitter, resentful, accusatory and spiteful. I'm afraid that taking the test was probably the worst thing she could have done. Many warned her on here.

She claims to know where Madelline Mc Cann is yet refuses to divulge the whereabouts. Bear in mind that she believes that she knows where she is yet will not tell. Make of that what you will when considering her character.

 

[pakeha]

Hi, bluesjr.
I have the feeling I've seen that avatar before...
It was precisely the lady's insistence in the case of that particular missing child that made me think we had here either a north by northwester or a con artist, either potential or incipient.
In fact, CS's tractability in the matter of the protocol was an indication, at least to me, that the first possiblity was more likely than the second.
Hindsight and so on, I daresay.

 

[Marcus]

Gzuzkrytz:


And to those of you who are not interested in my website: You better be.

Why would we be? You seem to be afraid to discuss your made up allegations here. You had a chance to be the first to be gracious after a fair test and admit that your superpowers didn't exist and you blew it. Excuses are the norm but we expected better things from you.

 

[GzuzKryzt]

Gzuzkrytz: I will be delighted to...

Forget very fast?? .....hmmm.....sometimes I do forget common things like my shoppinglist, but otherwise NO...Liar?? NO Gzuzkrytz...NOT AT ALL : I haver never used the words slight of hands. I noticed some other things,and I found the reasons for it too.

Granted, I inferred the sleight of hand. It seemed plausible to do so, since it is one of the very few possibilities Banachek could have used.

Connie, I think your ongoing smearing of the JREF, Banachek and the testing procedure is despicable and you should be ashamed. I also think that it is far from discussing in a friendly and lively way.

Either tell us how you have been cheated or go away.

You people out there believe SO MUCH in you God, that you don`t realized you are being dupped yourself. You only believe in what you see now and here, and believe all they says.
...

This is incomprehensible to me.

 

[connie sonne]

I´m not afraid...I`m not threating you....and I actually don`t care at all....I still know the truth, and you don`t...that is what it all is about!

By by for now

 

[Doubt]

I´m not afraid...I`m not threating you....and I actually don`t care at all....I still know the truth, and you don`t...that is what it all is about!

By by for now

Connie, if you are unable to tell us how the JREF supposedly cheated you, then any claim by you that you "know the truth" is nothing more than a lie. Put up or shut up!

 

[laca]

Ms Sonne impressed many, myself included, on here when putting together the protocol. I thought that we would see something very rarely seen - an individual who sits down and takes stock of their life after being presented with the fact that they could not perform their magical feat. I hoped she might realise that she was wasting her life with these ridiculous claims. I am saddened to say that I was deluded in that regard.

It is not surprising if you consider that the higher the level of self-delusion, the more the claimant doesn't care about the protocol. She didn't even test herself. She admitted never doing any similar test at all. She was in fact arrogant beyond belief when putting together the protocol.

Prior to the test she came across as really nice. When she failed she became and still is bitter, resentful, accusatory and spiteful. I'm afraid that taking the test was probably the worst thing she could have done. Many warned her on here.

She claims to know where Madelline Mc Cann is yet refuses to divulge the whereabouts. Bear in mind that she believes that she knows where she is yet will not tell. Make of that what you will when considering her character.

Yes, that is a real wake-up call to anyone who still believes there is a shred of decency in Connie.