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Thank You Rumsfeld

ZeeGerman

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All praise Donald,
with his (stupid) remark about France and Germany representing the "old Europe" he did more to get our two nations to stick their heads together than 40 years of Elysee-treaty ever could.
Keep up the good work!

Zee
 
I have never heard Don R. say anything of import.

If you listen to his Pentagon briefings, you will find that he never says anything that has not already been said by someone else. Instead of using these briefings as an opportunity to distribute new information, he uses them to berate others and reiterate old data.

How did this guy get his current job?

Seesh!
 
Crossbow said:
. Instead of using these briefings as an opportunity to distribute new information, he uses them to berate others and reiterate old data.

How did this guy get his current job?

Seesh!

"I've spent my whole life trying to find crazy ways to do things."

~~Montgomery Scott

:D
 
Both the Commandant Rumsfeld and the "Mouth of Sauron" Ari Fleischer use an interesting technique of belligerently not answering questions asked by the reporters and instead telling them what they should be asking. The funny thing is, except for a pitiful few reporters (Helen Thomas, Russ Morkhiber), most of them just bend over and take it.

Crossbow said:
I have never heard Don R. say anything of import.

If you listen to his Pentagon briefings, you will find that he never says anything that has not already been said by someone else. Instead of using these briefings as an opportunity to distribute new information, he uses them to berate others and reiterate old data.

How did this guy get his current job?

Seesh!
 
Originally posted by ZeeGerman:
All praise Donald,
with his (stupid) remark about France and Germany representing the "old Europe" he did more to get our two nations to stick their heads together than 40 years of Elysee-treaty ever could.
Keep up the good work!

Zee

"Keep up the good work" is a message we could send to Herr Schroeder and Msr. Chirac. Herr Schroeders work consists of presiding over a crumbling economy. Understandably his priority is to sue as many people as possible for speculating about his private life and even more critically whether he dyes his hair.

Jacque Chirac likes nothing more than to gouge the French taxpayer.

Isn't Europe lucky to have such titans directing it's affairs? We should be grateful to Donald Rumsfeld for bringing these great men together in a spirit of even greater cooperation.

Edited to acknowledge whatever German politician it was that compared GW Bush to Hitler.
 
Mr. Secretary Rumsfeld is the man and don't you people forget it. You should all have a banquet in his honor and post a monument somewhere in his name.

JK
 
Ask not "what is the problem?" but, rather, "where is the lesion?"

Washington, DC, January 23 (Reuters) United States Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld denied rumors of an unfavorable brain-imaging catscan from a recent medical checkup while speaking during a press conference this past weekend: "I do not, can not and never will have lesions in those areas of the frontal lobe believed responsible for critical thought and rational decision making. May we maintain purity of essence in this ongoing struggle against those who would tap and impurify our precious bodily fluids."

An anonomous source at Bethesda Medical Center was quoted as saying that Rumsfeld had also been informed his fits of compulsive masturbation had to stop. When questioned as to whether a possible cardiac weakness or deterioration of the upper arm might result, the source was quoted as saying: "Hell no. He's just been scaring the living ◊◊◊◊ out of my other patients in the waiting room."


(Any correspondence to lines from the movie Dr. Strangelove is purely intentional...)


RIP Terry Southern
 
The honorable Jedi Knight sez

"Mr. Secretary Rumsfeld is the man and don't you people forget it. You should all have a banquet in his honor and post a monument somewhere in his name.

JK
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Agreed, I'm very much looking forward to seeing much more of Mr. Rumsfeld on television in the coming days. Good news does call for a feast. Frog legs and wienerschnitzel for all, washed down with the fear pizzle of a thousand of Saddam's European collaborators.
 
Crossbow said:
I have never heard Don R. say anything of import.


That is exactly right and was why he was hired. I listened to Dick Morris the other day talking about how Bush had a much more leakproof White House than Clinton. I think Rumsfeld is a good example of that. Right after 9-11, he had a press briefing where he basically gave a phillipic about the importance of keeing classified info classified. He is tight lipped, and he expects it of others.
 
Jedi Knight said:
Mr. Secretary Rumsfeld is the man and don't you people forget it. You should all have a banquet in his honor and post a monument somewhere in his name.

JK

Yes, he's the man who shook hands with Saddam.
 
Jedi Knight said:


Of course, under the orders of President Reagan. It is diplomatic courtesy.

JK

To shake hands with an evil dictator who threatens the world with weapons of mass destruction is "diplomatic courtesy"? Would you consider giving biological weapons to the same dictator to be "diplomatic courtesy" as well? Because that's what the US did.
 
armageddonman said:


To shake hands with an evil dictator who threatens the world with weapons of mass destruction is "diplomatic courtesy"? Would you consider giving biological weapons to the same dictator to be "diplomatic courtesy" as well? Because that's what the US did.

Mr. Rumsfeld shook hands with Saddam Hussein in the early 1980's. Explain to me why that matters now.

Was Rumsfeld psychic? You seem to think he should have been. Is it the responsibility of men who shake hands with other men to know with predetermined accuracy if those men they shake hands with become evil men like Saddam?

Did the German people who embraced Hitler know that he was going to eliminate millions of Jews? Why did the German people embrace Hitler? Why did they go along with it?

Also, the reason Germany and France aren't going along with the US is because your country and France provided technical resources and other resources to Saddam to help Saddam develop weapons of mass destruction and other weapons. German engineers built most of Saddam's military bunkers in Iraq and designed them.

I think the German and French fear of US attack on Iraq is based on what the US is going to find out once we get inside there and start really digging.

I bet that we find a lot of connections between Mannheim's chemical plants and Saddam's chemical weapons programs.

JK
 
Jedi Knight said:
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Mr. Rumsfeld shook hands with Saddam Hussein in the early 1980's. Explain to me why that matters now.

In the 80s Saddam was supported by the US, now he's THE ENEMY. He's the same person as he used to be, so why is he opposed by the US today and wasn't in the 80s?



Was Rumsfeld psychic? You seem to think he should have been. Is it the responsibility of men who shake hands with other men to know with predetermined accuracy if those men they shake hands with become evil men like Saddam?

He was evil then and everybody knew it. Noone did anything when he gased the Kurds (I blame my own government for this as well).



Also, the reason Germany and France aren't going along with the US is because your country and France provided technical resources and other resources to Saddam to help Saddam develop weapons of mass destruction and other weapons. German engineers built most of Saddam's military bunkers in Iraq and designed them.

As did the US. Where do you think, Saddam got his Anthrax from?



I think the German and French fear of US attack on Iraq is based on what the US is going to find out once we get inside there and start really digging.

It can't be worse than what we know about the US/Iraqi relations NOW.


I bet that we find a lot of connections between Mannheim's chemical plants and Saddam's chemical weapons programs.

JK [/B]

See my comment about the biological weapons.

Another question, JK: isn't North Korea a greater threat than Iraq? Why don't the US threaten war to Noth Korea?
 
Jedi Knight said:


Also, the reason Germany and France aren't going along with the US is because your country and France provided technical resources and other resources to Saddam to help Saddam develop weapons of mass destruction and other weapons. German engineers built most of Saddam's military bunkers in Iraq and designed them.

I think the German and French fear of US attack on Iraq is based on what the US is going to find out once we get inside there and start really digging.

I bet that we find a lot of connections between Mannheim's chemical plants and Saddam's chemical weapons programs.

JK

Please provide some evidence for the claim that German engineers built MOST of Saddam's bunkers, I doubt it. Anyway, there have been some transfers of technology that might be used for WMD from Germany to Iraq. BUT these transfers were commited illegally by some German companies and have been dealt with in court accordingly. The military support Saddam got from the US on the other hand was the official line of US policy and I think that's in a completely different ball park.

That is really what bothers me the most in the whole current Iraq discussion. Saddam was supported by the US in the 80s because he was the enemy of the enemy. Now the same gang of US politicians wants to take him out because he got really dangerous. Surprise, surprise!

Don't get me wrong,
I DO think that Saddam's regime must be brought to an end, violently if necessary. I disagree with my government's current policy of unconditional refusal to a violent solution, because it takes pressure off Saddam. But I completely lack the faith that the current US government is accountable and far sighted enough to find a lasting solution for middle east, once the war is over. The most probably coming war might solve the Saddam problem but I fear the worst for what comes after that...
 
ZeeGerman said:
That is really what bothers me the most in the whole current Iraq discussion. Saddam was supported by the US in the 80s because he was the enemy of the enemy. Now the same gang of US politicians wants to take him out because he got really dangerous. Surprise, surprise!

Not the first time. Eisenhower was such a hypocrite.

ZeeGerman said:
Don't get me wrong,
I DO think that Saddam's regime must be brought to an end, violently if necessary. I disagree with my government's current policy of unconditional refusal to a violent solution, because it takes pressure off Saddam. But I completely lack the faith that the current US government is accountable and far sighted enough to find a lasting solution for middle east, once the war is over. The most probably coming war might solve the Saddam problem but I fear the worst for what comes after that...

I agree that it would be much better if France and Germany were standing up to Saddam militarily. Unfortunately, they are not.

MattJ
 
Just wait until we kick Saddam's butt out of Iraq and set up our own matriarchal totalitarian government and establish the Commie left wing liberal biased media there. Maybe then the rest of the world will see what it's missing.
 

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