Texas Tea Party Gubernatorial Candidate A 9/11 Truther?

[Ladewig]

Except this was slightly beyond mere mortal kookiness.

Beck was very clear and very specific about what he asked her. There's no way she can claim she didn't know what she was responding to.

Fine. I'm not going to fall on my sword over this issue.

 

[Brainster]

So saying "the government was not involved" is not a reason to think otherwise?

You're probably not acquainted with the finer points of the 9-11 Troof Movement. Beck asked her specifically if the government was involved in bringing down the towers. Her (belated) response that Muslims hijacked the planes and flew them into the buildings is a dodge. There is a large segment of the "Truthers" who do not express an opinion on the hijackers or the flights, but claim that the towers were brought down via a controlled demolition. This is the default position of many major 9-11 Troof figures, including Richard Gage and Steven Jones, among others, and Medina's response does not exclude that possibility.

 

[Ladewig]

You're probably not acquainted with the finer points of the 9-11 Troof Movement. Beck asked her specifically if the government was involved in bringing down the towers. Her (belated) response that Muslims hijacked the planes and flew them into the buildings is a dodge. There is a large segment of the "Truthers" who do not express an opinion on the hijackers or the flights, but claim that the towers were brought down via a controlled demolition. This is the default position of many major 9-11 Troof figures, including Richard Gage and Steven Jones, among others, and Medina's response does not exclude that possibility.

I don't understand why the words "our government was not involved" do not exclude a person from falling into the group that believes in controlled demolition. Are you saying that some believe a foreign power caused the controlled demolition?

 

[T.A.M.]

I don't buy it. It just feels like a panicked walkback to me.

"Oh my God! I publicly admitted that I'm a loon and I have to respond quickly by repudiating my beliefs."

Bingo!

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

I don't understand why the words "our government was not involved" do not exclude a person from falling into the group that believes in controlled demolition. Are you saying that some believe a foreign power caused the controlled demolition?

I think she lied the second time, rather then the first, in order to save (or try to save) her political career. Her first response to a very specific question was very telling.

TAM

 

[Ladewig]

I think she lied the second time, rather then the first, in order to save (or try to save) her political career. Her first response to a very specific question was very telling.

TAM

OK. As I said earlier, I am not going to argue in favor of the second-statement-was-more-true-than-the-first-statement.

 

[mortimer]

She sounds like the kind of paranoid conspiracy kook that would buy into Trooferism.

"I'm doing some damage," Medina said. "I'm over the target. They know I'm over the target. And we're heading up pretty quick, and this is a concerted damage control effort maybe on their part to make sure we get her out of the way."

http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/democrat-shami-also-raises-doubts-on-9-11-233460.html

 

[Drysdale]

This is a shame. I dont like Perry or Hutchinson particularly.

 

[mortimer]

This is a shame. I dont like Perry or Hutchinson particularly.

White is probably the best candidate out there, but I can't see a Dem winning in the current environment.

That being said, the Texas Governor is really just a figurehead. No real power, which primarily lies with the Lt. Gov.

 

[GreyICE]

Well huh. I've long been convinced that Glenn Beck was an idiot. However, 'convinced' and 'unable to change my mind' are two different things. About a week or two ago, I picked up one of his books (ETA: Yes, library. I'm not PAYING MONEY for that), and while I don't agree with everything in it (or even half of everything), he wrote well and made some convincing skeptical cases. Moreover, while full of viterol, he espoused a few practical positions (even if his opinion on us running out of oil was 'no alternative energy works, so we're all doomed' the section was written so ironically that it read more like a call for alternative energy development than a condemnation - the nihilistic view he espoused was so over the top it acted as a call to action, at least imho).

He keeps this up, and he might convince me that he's a smart person who found a good way to make a lot of money by playing the idiot.

Anyway, kudos to Mr. Beck. Whatever the source, it's fun to see truthers cut down.

 

[GreNME]

Wow.

I'm with the others who have said that they were completely surprised in saying that Beck did a good job in outing Medina's truther leanings.

And the KLIF responses from call-ins are hillarious. Amazing how much cognitive dissonance is being employed by some of Medina's supporters. And then the radio host starts implying Beck is a co-hort of Rick Perry, adding to the dissonance. I found it really ironic that those defending Medina claimed that her response (to Beck) showed she's not a politician and is just a regular person, while Medina's actual response was textbook aversion employed by career politicians.