Texas bans abortion.
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Stacyhs
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Try reading mine. But you go ahead and have the last word in this latest example of your usual pot stirring because that's also your M.O.
acbytesla
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The problem with your spin here is that I, and others, used the word according to its actual scientific meaning and a handful of people, including you, then attempted to foist their own negative emotional connotations onto it. We can't help it if you and some others can't get past that.
A good example is when Amanda Knox used the word "corpo" when she referred to Meredith Kercher's body. It was then translated by pro-guilt believers as "corpse" which they thought was completely cold and disrespectful and had a ****fit over it. It was an example of her sociopathy! Trouble was, it also means "body" in Italian. But instead of considering that fact, they chose to go with the translation that had a more negative connotation in English because it supported their agenda.
By the way, your whole "parasite" spiel is way past its due date for efficacy.
Christopher Hitchens talked about how you can't do anything about how some people are determined to be offended.
I DON'T CARE A WHIT that Warp and pro-life zealots are offended by the accurate use of a word. They can get up on their hobby horses and whine about it all they like.
Fetuses are parasites. PERIOD.
They almost always have a negative impact on the health of their hosts. Women experience weight gain, extra stress on their hearts, kidneys and livers. Also the hosts endure discomfort, pain and nausea and this does not include childbirth. And I am only mentioning a few of the issues associated with pregnancy.
That women at all are willing to go through all of this amazes me. I do realize that this is only part of the experience. I've heard women say they liked being pregnant, but I also know that every pregnancy is different and it can be hell too.
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Ah. I see you skipped the: “There are three main classes of parasites that can cause disease in humans: protozoa, helminths, and ectoparasites.” part.
Pregnancy is not a parasitic infection. That’s just medically inaccurate. Go ahead and look through the medical literature and find me a source that classifies a pregnancy as a parasitic infection. I’ll wait here.
I guess if you kill them soon enough, it hardly matters, right? After all, they are all "non-viable", by Dem account, at that point.
Killing them must be good for the planet, and they dont know they are being killed from what I can gather.
Human biomass has doubled while other creature mass has halved since 1970.
Texas has just shafted the animals.
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acbytesla
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Note it said "main" classes. This suggests that there are parasites outside of the "main" classes does it not? "Main" is a qualifying adjective.
No, it's not a parasitic infection.
The CDC''s job is to help prevent disease. And whereas a a fetus is a parasite, it is not a disease.
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smartcooky
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You are getting confused between a parasite, and parasitic infection.
A parasite is an organism
A parasitic infection is an infection, caused by a parasite
https://www.healthline.com/health/parasitic-infections
What is a parasitic infection?
Parasites are organisms that live off other organisms, or hosts, to survive. Some parasites don’t noticeably affect their hosts. Others grow, reproduce, or invade organ systems that make their hosts sick, resulting in a parasitic infection.
Parasites are organisms that live off other organisms, or hosts, to survive. Some parasites don’t noticeably affect their hosts. Others grow, reproduce, or invade organ systems that make their hosts sick, resulting in a parasitic infection.
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https://www.reading.ac.uk/news-archive/press-releases/pr9938.html
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NOTE: This is a link to a 511K PDF
https://www.cambridge.org/core/serv...65169000085a.pdf/the-foetus-as-a-parasite.pdf
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Do I take it that you advocate Science jettison terms that have been hijacked and infused with additional connotations? That the original definition has been superseded by a more recent common usage, and a new word be adopted or invented?
The Great Zaganza
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According to Republicans, foetus of Minorities are not parasites, they only become parasites the moment they are born.
psionl0
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There is no need for scientists to do anything. Unlike the general public, they know the correct scientific meaning of a word and can use it in a non emotional way.
OTOH, as the pages in this thread have shown, say the word "parasite" to a non-scientific person and you will have to make post after post explaining that you don't mean that it is analogous to "cancer" or "disease" or "illness" nor that it is "undesirable" or "unwanted" etc.
I would bet that even if a scientist's wife miscarries at 5 months, he is not going to proclaim to everyone, "we lost the parasite". Unless he has other emotional and/or social issues, that is. Neither would a female scientist likely speak of her own miscarriage in such terms.
It is baffling that some refuse to understand this. This is independent of any other reasons why they may not wish to characterize the unborn as human...but instead as "parasites".
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Aridas
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acbytesla and smartcooky have poked at much of this, so I'll skip over much that could be said. I have one main question left, though.
After reading your attempt at making a point, I'm left wondering why you would think that such hole-filled argument would pass even a superficial inspection?
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All these semantics are nicely hiding the fact that the GOP has rapidly shifted from a 'small government' party to a party that wants massive state influence in how you can behave.
Especially if you're a woman.
Especially if you're a woman.
Aridas
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"Rapidly shifted" is wrong.
The GOP has long pushed for both. "Small government" is something of a misleading characterization that's more attractive than "We want a government that's just strong enough to enforce our (masters') will upon the masses, paid for by the masses and not the masters."
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psionl0
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Yes but not for the reason you give.
While some GOP politicians preech small government, the GOP (like every other party) is committed to having a government that is as large as possible. At every opportunity they increase the size, cost and powers of the government.
Stacyhs
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I quoted and linked to this one earlier.
It's amazing that anyone who works in the medical field could not distinguish between a parasite and parasitic infection. Bacteria can also cause infection, but they can also be very beneficial as in probiotics.
Stacyhs
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At 39, my pregnancy was a breeze. Only had nausea for about 3 weeks and a quick toothbrush in the mouth made me throw up and that was it for the day. I was hospitalized for one night in my 37th week when they thought I was developing pre-eclampsia, but it didn't. Now, my niece, who had her two babies at age 28 and 32 had a hell of a time with both of them. Sick all the time and in great pain from about 3 months on because her pelvis joint would slip. She had to use a walker to get around and was bedridden the last couple of months. It was absolute hell for her.
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Yes, but according to the anti-abortionists, it's what she deserves for having sex. It's accountability.
Stacyhs
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And a scientist doing in vitro wouldn't say to a patient, "We successfully harvested four potential human beings from your baby making organ on the left side. We'll now use your husband's little squiggly baby makers to fertilize them and then implant two babies in your uterus and freeze the other two babies. Unless of course, he has other emotional and/or social issues, that is.
A biologist wouldn't say "We're having sus domesticus and Meleagris gallopavo domesticus for Thanksgiving with mashed solanum tuberosum and cucurbita pie for dessert either. But that doesn't make him wrong. And of course, unless he has other emotional and/or social issues, that is.
Do you have any other comments obviously intended to be emotionally loaded or is this it?
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Please quote and cite anyone here, but most especially me, who has said the zygote, embryo, or fetus is not 'human'.
Claiming that "they may not wish to characterize the unborn as human" is blatantly dishonest because it has been pointed out many, many times that the point of contention is "human" versus "human being/person". You know this. And so do we.
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