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Justice Department planning to sue Texas over abortion law

The Department of Justice is planning to sue Texas as soon as this week, POLITICO has confirmed, a move that comes just days after Attorney General Merrick Garland said his department is exploring options to challenge the state’s strict abortion law.

While the lawsuit could come as soon as Thursday, it’s possible the timeline will be pushed back, according to The Wall Street Journal, which first reported the Justice Department’s preparations. The Biden administration has faced building pressure to act after the Supreme Court allowed the law to take effect in a 5-4 decision.
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The Justice Department’s lawsuit is expected to argue that the Texas law illegally interferes with federal interests.
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"I was told that there are possibilities within the existing law to have the Justice Department look and see whether there are things that can be done that can limit the independent action of individuals in enforcing ... a state law,” Biden said. “I don’t know enough to give you an answer yet.”
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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/08/justice-department-texas-abortion-law-510801
 
smartcooky said:
Conflicting interpretations of various "bibles of religion" have lead to more bloodshed, violence war and death that any other single cause in the history or humanity.
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Religious differences have certainly been the stated justification for lots of bloodshed, but I think the true reason behind most of them was actually competition for resources. It was just easier to sell as "we're doing God's will" than "we want their territory and its lucrative trade routes, rich mines, and fertile fields".

Similarly I suspect the abortion controversy has less to do with the holy sanctity of infant life and more to do with a sexual counter-revolution to undo the 60s.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Religious differences have certainly been the stated justification for lots of bloodshed, but I think the true reason behind most of them was actually competition for resources. It was just easier to sell as "we're doing God's will" than "we want their territory and its lucrative trade routes, rich mines, and fertile fields".

Similarly I suspect the abortion controversy has less to do with the holy sanctity of infant life and more to do with a sexual counter-revolution to undo the 60s.
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Agreed - see post 1072.
 
I think it's even more basic then that.

Up until like the turn of the 19th century, at least in America... you could argue that religion was losing. America actually a fairly robust intellectual revolution where religion was shrinking, in influence if not raw numbers. And the various religious factions hated each other way to much.

But abortion, and yes it probably is to some degree symbolic of some greater concept of "sin" or whatever, gave them a common enemy to rally around.

Abortion is, in a very real sense, the only reason we have the "Religious Right" as a single unified force.
 
plague311 said:
I was being facetious :D I didn't watch the video either. I partially stole it from an episode of Family Guy. He tells Lois that "If I win, I get anal. I mean it, the whole house, clean, top to bottom."

I now say that to my wife all the time in public. "If you're going to buy that many groceries, then I'm getting anal. All of them, put away, where they belong!"

I'm funnier in person...maybe. Probably not...
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Is your wife open to outside contractors?
 
How does some nosey busy-body in Maine have any legal standing to sue a doctor in Texas for performing an abortion, on a stranger, at 7 weeks?

SCOTUS will eventually toss this stupid law.
 
cmikes said:
Or.... People don't want to sit back while babies are being killed.

Your brand of Progressive fundie nonsense is just as bad as Christian fundie nonsense.

"Abortion isn't about a woman's convenience! They're sacrificing those babies to their Lord Satan!" Extremists on both sides are ridiculous.
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To what level is it acceptable to risk the life of the woman carrying the foetus before you consider it acceptable to terminate it? 25% more than if she wasn't pregnant? 50%? 100%? 200%? 400%? 800%?
 
TragicMonkey said:
Religious differences have certainly been the stated justification for lots of bloodshed, but I think the true reason behind most of them was actually competition for resources. It was just easier to sell as "we're doing God's will" than "we want their territory and its lucrative trade routes, rich mines, and fertile fields".

Similarly I suspect the abortion controversy has less to do with the holy sanctity of infant life and more to do with a sexual counter-revolution to undo the 60s.
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Well that and segregation of their schools to keep the blacks out became more unpopular.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I don't normally side with tuppenny-ha'penny psychology, but I'm willing to bet that a pretty good percentage of racism is rooted in unconscious sexual complexes.
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Given how often racists throughout history have landed on "Black people aren't even human, but oopsie doodle my dick still found a way to be in one of them" I think it is likely.
 
Stacyhs said:
Yeah...that was one of the most stupid things he could have said. So he did. The only way you might stop men raping is if you geld all of them before puberty. And I'm not sure even that would stop some of them.
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Stupid like a fox. The conversation about him saying that stupid thing is not the conversation about what happens to a woman who has to bear the child of her rapist.
 
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Regnad Kcin said:
THANK YOU!

I cannot tell you for long I’ve been unclear on whether or not rape is a crime. It is such a relief to finally have the question settled.

Again, I say thank you, Governor Costello!
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It's always heartening to see politicians take courageous stands on the controversial issues of the day.
 
Interesting argument: The writer contends that state legislators have felt free to pass all kinds of anti-abortion laws because they were sure that the Supreme Court would invalidate them, sparing them from electoral consequences. Now that the Supreme Court is leaning the other way, legislators may need to reconsider.
These arguments, however, failed to mention a key fact: Legislatures passed all these restrictions knowing that the federal judiciary would safeguard the core right to abortion. They did not have to face the political backlash that might result from the closure of every abortion clinic or the prosecution of patients who terminate illegally. As the implementation date for each new law loomed, clinics would race to court to obtain an injunction. Judges would oblige, and Republicans would rail against their rulings—and fundraise off the outrage they fomented. At the next legislative session, they’d repeat the process, creating an endless cycle of anti-abortion fervor that never resulted in the prohibition of abortion.

Now the Supreme Court has broken that cycle. By a 5–4 vote, it allowed Texas’ six-week abortion ban to take effect, allowing the state to outlaw virtually all abortions for the first time since 1973. The state’s clinics have stopped providing abortions to all but the rare patient at an extremely early stage of pregnancy. Yet few of its members are willing to acknowledge this new state of affairs. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell dismissed the Supreme Court’s effective abandonment of Roe—a key aim of his ruthless drive to capture the federal judiciary—as a “highly technical decision.” Texas’ Republican senators, Ted Cruz and John Cornyn—normally so vocal about their hostility to abortion—were silent.
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics...bortion-roe-wade-supreme-court-precedent.html
 
TragicMonkey said:
I don't normally side with tuppenny-ha'penny psychology, but I'm willing to bet that a pretty good percentage of racism is rooted in unconscious sexual complexes.
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JoeMorgue said:
Given how often racists throughout history have landed on "Black people aren't even human, but oopsie doodle my dick still found a way to be in one of them" I think it is likely.
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Meh. Men have been amorous towards sheep as well, and we don't blame that on "racism". Find a new shtick.

The reality is that men will fornicate with anything that moves, and a lot of things that don't. Race is not the determining factor, opportunity is.
 
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Warp12 said:
Meh. Men have been amorous towards sheep as well, and we don't blame that on "racism". Find a new shtick.

The reality is that men will fornicate with anything that moves, and a lot of things that don't. Race is not the determining factor, opportunity is.
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I will go out on a limb here and suggest that faaaaaarrr more men have had extra-racial intercourses than extra-species intercourse.

Crazy thought, I know.


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Also sheep aren't human, blacks and women are.

I know that's shocking to conservative trolls, but it is reality and you have to live with it.
 
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