Texas bans abortion.

[Ziggurat]

I do not understand your objection. I get the objection to saying 'banned' outright, but the further qualifiers are spot on.

The ban isn't very effective if you just need to drive a bit of a distance to overcome it. That may be unfair, that may be restrictive for certain people, that may be bad policy, but it's not a ban, nor is it even "practically" a ban. And the "further qualifier" of rural Texas is also quite different than "Texas".

 

[Ziggurat]

This may be the catalyst that wins the Governor's race for Wendy Davis.

Mmmm... I can almost taste the false hope ripening on the vine! I can't wait for it to get crushed into whine.

 

[Loss Leader]

The ban isn't very effective if you just need to drive a bit of a distance to overcome it.

Nothing in Texas is "a bit of distance" from anything.

 

[theprestige]

Nothing in Texas is "a bit of distance" from anything.

Fort Bliss to Austin. I've made that drive. It's a bit of distance. Fort Bliss is in a dry county. Austin is not. I can tell you from direct personal experience that nothing about that arrangement equates to "Texas bans bar hopping." Not even "practically". Not even "rural".

Tyr is right. The discussion is poorly framed. I think there's a place for well framed discussion of this issue,but this thread probably isn't it, and defending the poor framing of the OP probably won't get you there.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

The ban isn't very effective if you just need to drive a bit of a distance to overcome it. That may be unfair, that may be restrictive for certain people, that may be bad policy, but it's not a ban, nor is it even "practically" a ban. And the "further qualifier" of rural Texas is also quite different than "Texas".

Your answer suggests to me you've never driven, or worse ridden greyhound, across Texas.

 

[DC]

if the Republicans continue, IS will get jealous for all those "godly" policies

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Well the conservatives won in Texas. Abortion is now banned in the state.

No, it isn't.

Mods: Please move to conspiracy section.

 

[DavidJames]

Well the conservatives won in Texas. Abortion is now banned in the state.

I appreciate the sentiment, but as we see, the basic issue gets lost in the noise trumpeting the error in wording

So, if Texas only allowed guns to be purchased in 7 locations, that would be okay? After all, it wouldn't be a ban, so it should be fine, right?

You didn't expect an honest did you?

Libertarians have a strange idea of liberty.

It is consistent with my observation that Libertarian belief is a religious belief and like religious beliefs the believers pick and choose what they want to believe. It's also consistent with the concept that the overtly religious are Republicans first and religious second.

 

[Unabogie]

Nothing in Texas is "a bit of distance" from anything.

Especially for women who don't own cars, don't have jobs, can't afford to take days of work, can't afford a hotel in another city, or can't spare time away from their jobs or kids. Again, conservatives have a bizarre sense of personal freedom. They claim freedom is sacrosanct and therefore Obamacare is evil, but shrug their shoulders at the government dictating what women can do with their own bodies.

 

[thaiboxerken]

The purpose of the law is to make it hard to access abortion, especially for those in the poor, rural areas. It's just another step towards the ban that Conservatives want.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Mmmm... I can almost taste the false hope ripening on the vine! I can't wait for it to get crushed into whine.

It won't be easy, but the gerrymandering and voter suppression can be overcome.

 

[Loss Leader]

Your answer suggests to me you've never driven, or worse ridden greyhound, across Texas.

Driving across Texas, while a great name for a band, is a horrible thing to actually do.

 

[Ziggurat]

It won't be easy, but the gerrymandering and voter suppression can be overcome.

I eagerly await your explanation for how gerrymandering affects gubernatorial elections.

 

[Ziggurat]

Especially for women who don't own cars, don't have jobs, can't afford to take days of work, can't afford a hotel in another city, or can't spare time away from their jobs or kids. Again, conservatives have a bizarre sense of personal freedom. They claim freedom is sacrosanct and therefore Obamacare is evil, but shrug their shoulders at the government dictating what women can do with their own bodies.

Pop quiz time:

Does Ziggurat think abortion should be legal or illegal?

 

[thaiboxerken]

I eagerly await your explanation for how gerrymandering affects gubernatorial elections.

Too true, that only affects national elections. However, the voter suppression is still a hard rock to climb.

 

[Unabogie]

Pop quiz time:

Does Ziggurat think abortion should be legal or illegal?

Who cares? Does Ziggurat engage in constant apologia and vote consistently for people who want abortion to be a crime? You betcha.

 

[Ziggurat]

Who cares?

You, apparently.

 

[Unabogie]

You, apparently.

No, I don't. I just think sophistry and apologia is worthy of condemnation and your posts are low hanging fruit.

 

[thaiboxerken]

You, apparently.

But, apparently, you don't. As you constantly apologize for anti-abortion legislation and vote for anti-abortionists.

 

[Kestrel]

The purpose of the law is to make it hard to access abortion, especially for those in the poor, rural areas. It's just another step towards the ban that Conservatives want.

Limiting the number of clinics makes it easier to put a cordon of protesters around every clinic.