Testing for Absurdity, or The Gravy Line

GregoryUrich said:
I like Mackey's method. The only problem is that the competence of the person doing the rating is not taken into account. Probably less than 5% of the population understand physics at even my level, Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering (Yes, even the electric engineers get two years of physics and mechanics combined).

Normal is not good. Normal went along with Hitler. Normal accepted slavery. Normal kept blacks from voting until the 60's.
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Engineering and Physics are only two of many aspects involved in the 9/11 attacks. You, Mr. Urich, may not be qualified to use the Gravy Line on other aspects/theories of 9/11 based on your suggestion. Incidentally, you may find that the population at JREF, and particular in this subforum, is not the average population in terms of educational background. We have a number of civil engineers, electrical engineers, Aeronautical Engineers, Architects, as well as people qualified in many other fields. I would suspect the number of people on this forum able to use the Gravy Line based on your suggestion, would be much higher than 5%.

TAM:)

Edit: Normal is the majority. Do you suggest that in every voting situation, the minority should be declared the winner?

TAM:)
 
GregoryUrich; said:
I like Mackey's method. The only problem is that the competence of the person doing the rating is not taken into account. Probably less than 5% of the population understand physics at even my level, Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering (Yes, even the electric engineers get two years of physics and mechanics combined).

Normal is not good. Normal went along with Hitler. Normal accepted slavery. Normal kept blacks from voting until the 60's.
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Hey cut me some slack, do you know how hard it is to come up with statistics jokes?

1 in 15000 University graduates get a Physics degree, thats 0.00666% or 4 standard deviations. Do you know how far from "normal" that makes us? :)
 
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TruthSeeker1234 said:
Great. Gravy admits that the overthrow of Iran in the early 1950's was a conspiracy, denied and kept secret for decades.

Answer this: Don't you think it would have been very, very important for the U.S. people to have known that in 1979, during the hostage crises?
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It's very important for Americans to know if their government has or is engaging in morally questionable actions against the interests of democracy and human rights at any time. But specifically during the hostage crisis, as opposed to any other time? Not really. The US government's wrongful actions do not give the theocratic thugs of a tyrannical government (they weren't the legitimate democracy that was overthrown, after all) carte blanche to take its citizens hostage and abuse them. Besides, I doubt that full disclosure of the decades-old coup from the government would have made a significant number of US citizens any more sympathetic to the mullahs in Iran, let alone have convinced them that the hostage taking was justified.
 
How many get a degree in philosophy? Engineering? Medicine? Interesting, I would have thought the number of Physics degrees, at least at the BSc level, to have been higher.

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
How many get a degree in philosophy? Engineering? Medicine? Interesting, I would have thought the number of Physics degrees, at least at the BSc level, to have been higher.

TAM:)
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I don't know about other countries, but the U.S. Department of Education tries to track this stuff pretty closely. For a breakdown of bachelor's degrees, you can go to the DoE National Center for Education Statistics Table 249: [SIZE=-1]Bachelor's degrees conferred by degree-granting institutions, by discipline division: Selected years, 1970-71 through 2003-04.[/SIZE]

This should give you some basis for answering your questions.
 
T.A.M.; said:
How many get a degree in philosophy? Engineering? Medicine? Interesting, I would have thought the number of Physics degrees, at least at the BSc level, to have been higher.

TAM:)
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That's what I was told (albeit by another physics student). I beleive there were 10 of us that entered the program and only 6 graduated (me barely). There were only 4 in the years ahead and behind me. There actually happens to be 15000 registered students at my alma mater. I'm guessing that only about 1 in 5 Canadian Universities has a Physics program? Either that or I am mistaken and 1 in 15000 of the general population has a degree in Physics. This actually seems more reasonable.
 
Well based on the responses of some of our truthers on this site, you don't actually need a degree in physics to be an expert in it...so why bother...

LOL

TAM;)
 
I suspect that the only thing absurd about the whole Iran situation would have been if somebody claimed it was going to be accomplished with an army of reverse-engineered alien technology robots posing as humans.

That would give it parity with the 'no planer' version of 911.
 
3bodyproblem said:
There actually happens to be 15000 registered students at my alma mater. I'm guessing that only about 1 in 5 Canadian Universities has a Physics program?
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I'm pretty sure I would have noticed this back when I was applying for University, as I was looking for Physics programs. I'd think it more unusual to not have a physics program.

But they are pretty small. My class was bigger than yours, but not by much.

That's assuming there hasn't been some un-advertised slaughter of Univeristy Physics departments sometime since 1994.....
 
3bodyproblem said:
That's what I was told (albeit by another physics student). I beleive there were 10 of us that entered the program and only 6 graduated (me barely). There were only 4 in the years ahead and behind me. There actually happens to be 15000 registered students at my alma mater. I'm guessing that only about 1 in 5 Canadian Universities has a Physics program? Either that or I am mistaken and 1 in 15000 of the general population has a degree in Physics. This actually seems more reasonable.
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Another PHY major. The reason the numbers are so low is that few people hate themselves enough to take physics. I fell for quantum mechanics, and then got stuck with statistical mechanics and advanced E&M, which were aweful. Should have majored in Econ.
 
T.A.M.; said:
Well based on the responses of some of our truthers on this site, you don't actually need a degree in physics to be an expert in it...so why bother...

LOL

TAM;)
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LOL, too true. In fact having a degree may be holding some of us back, we're set in our ways and won't accept the new physics of NetForce=zero and the like. Jaded cynics the lot of us I tell yah. :)
 
3bodyproblem said:
LOL, too true. In fact having a degree may be holding some of us back, we're set in our ways and won't accept the new physics of NetForce=zero and the like. Jaded cynics the lot of us I tell yah. :)
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Dare I ask what netforce=zero is?
 
3bodyproblem said:
No Physics programs listed! Conspiracy!
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They don't break it out, do they? I didn't notice that until you pointed it out, but you're probably lumped into the "Physical sciences and science technologies" category, ~18,000 grads in 2004.
 
Kage; said:
Another PHY major. The reason the numbers are so low is that few people hate themselves enough to take physics. I fell for quantum mechanics, and then got stuck with statistical mechanics and advanced E&M, which were aweful. Should have majored in Econ.
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E&M, oh god you do hate yourself. I had a prof that taught his own unique form of relativistic approach to E&M. http://www.springer.com/west/home/b...eqNo=0&CIPageCounter=CI_MORE_BOOKS_BY_AUTHOR0There are two people on the planet that teach this. Nothing like making a difficult subject next to impossible. Good Times
 
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AZCat; said:
They don't break it out, do they? I didn't notice that until you pointed it out, but you're probably lumped into the "Physical sciences and science technologies" category, ~18,000 grads in 2004.
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That's what I thought too, but then again why not just "Physics"? As usual we just get "lumped" in to some other obscure group. :rolleyes:
 
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