Terrorist attack in St Petersburg, Russia

Fez guy turned himself in and says he is innocent.

DailyMail is now showing a picture of 22 year old Maksim Arishev from Kazakhstan.
 
Mikemcc said:
The second device was at Ploshad Vosstaniya, the station I used everyday when I worked there. It's an important interchange for the metro with the main train station on the same square. There's also a major westernised shopping mall and a number of major hotels in the area (Novotel, Park Inn, etc). It's always busy as hell.
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Yeah, they're saying it was timed for when students at a nearby Uni were coming out, and the explosion was just below the shopping mall.

Might be another one of these 'lone wolf' type attacks, with maybe two lone wolves in tandem.

I can't help thinking there is more to this than meets the eye.
 
Vixen said:
It was clearly aimed as a message to Putin, in St Petersburg for the day.

Another bomb failed to go off.

I remain sceptical that the person in the picture is necessarily the culprit.

OK. he looks a bit strange, but does that make him the culprit?
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I'm very skeptical if not outright cynical about anything happening in Russia, especially since there were anti-corruption demonstrations going on for the past two weeks, with hundreds detained. Russia has been attacking various groups in Syria for years with no backlash, so it is quite odd that they would suffer an attack now. There were no recent events in Chechnya or Dagestan that would explain an attakck now either.

Not a suicide attack is a red flag in itself, getting blown to bits is preferable to being captured and interrogated by the FSB - the end result is the same, but one involves less discomfort. Two small bombs (hand grenade size) one of which didn't even explode is another.

It is possible this was a FSB false flag, but there is not enough information to say so with any degree of certainty.

McHrozni
 
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Oh joy, they're now saying it was a suicide bomber that attacked and the other bomb, the one that was found and disabled, was hidden inside of a fire extinguisher, and much bigger - about a kilogram of TNT equivalent. The alleged bomber had a smaller bomb. Police is still looking for him. Unlike with other attacks, ISIS is staying silent.

A false flag by the FSB is getting more likely by the day.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/04/europe/st-petersburg-russia-explosion/index.html?adkey=bn

McHrozni
 
McHrozni said:
It is possible this was a FSB false flag, but there is not enough information to say so with any degree of certainty.
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Every time a bomb goes off in Russia, this possibility is brought up.

However, I can't think of a single time in history that the FSB, KGB, NKVD, or Cheka ever conducted such a "false flag" attack.
 
Cleon said:
Every time a bomb goes off in Russia, this possibility is brought up.

However, I can't think of a single time in history that the FSB, KGB, NKVD, or Cheka ever conducted such a "false flag" attack.
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Why would they need to? Russia's policies towards Chechnya, Muslims, Ukrainians, and pretty much every non-white Christian group ensures a plethora of enemies willing to do things like this.
 
Vixen said:
Crumbs. They must be confident it's him

They are putting the guy in the fez, onto a lie detector machine. AIUI these machines do not work for sociopaths, as lying is not stressful for them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4375518/Explosion-metro-St-Petersburg.html
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:rolleyes: They just plain don't work. How would you get a baseline on someone in the process of being accused of taking part in a terrorist bombing? Neither the guilty (one doesn't have to be a sociopath to plant a bomb) nor the innocent are likely to be calm enough even to give the chance of a polygraph telling truth from lies, certainly not in a nation run by thieving murderers.
 
Stacko said:
Why would they need to? Russia's policies towards Chechnya, Muslims, Ukrainians, and pretty much every non-white Christian group ensures a plethora of enemies willing to do things like this.
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Every non-white or non-Christian group they aren't in direct contact with. Russia is highly skilled at producing enemies.

McHrozni
 
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Cleon said:
Doubtful. There's been no evidence of false flag, merely allegations.
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Well, catching FSB agents planting yet another bomb, without notifying anyone of the alleged 'exercise' is rather compelling evidence, more than a mere allegation surely. Plus the FSB arrested the guy who found the viable bomb up for divulging state secrets.

There were also other incidents that raise red flags, like that time when a parliamentarian announced a building was just blown up in his home town ... three days before it happened.

It is also that the bombs were blamed on the Chechens, who strongly denied any links to bombs, even though they took no measures to hide themselves for other attacks in the same era (Nord-Ost, Beslan).

Information being sealed by the Duma, prohibiting further investigation and arrests of an independent investigator who later died in Cyprus in a hit and run accident are all grounds for more than reasonable doubt in the official story.

There are also other pieces of evidence that make those bombs strong suspects for actual false flags. There is no smoking gun, no definitive evidence they were indeed the work of the FSB, but the evidence does point that way. Certainly more than saying these are "allegations" would suggest. I believe I said as much in the post.

McHrozni
 
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