Ten Things We Don't Know About Humans

I am an actor, and a couple years ago I was in a production of "Long Day's Journey Into Night." While there is some comedy in the play, it is mostly a horror story. The majority of our audiences recognized that. But one night, you would have thought we were doing a comedy. There was laughter almost throughout the play. Even in the final scenes, when the men are eviscerating each other and Mary enters totally strung out on morphine, the laughter just kept coming. It was one of the oddest nights I've ever had on stage.


Maybe this was some sort of laughter contagion. People laughing because other people are laughing. How do you stop it when people get started laughing at non-comedic horror? It's like the laughers start an unstoppable trend whereby we all are going to laugh at horror - or, we all now have license to laugh at the horror on stage.

The audience becomes a social group in itself - shut off from the rest of the world who may not laugh at such stuff. Earlier in this thread it was mentioned that laughter could be something that allows a group to recognize outsiders or "others" (those who do not laugh when all others are). The reverse could be true when a production is fully intended to be funny but the crowd thinks it sucks. Nobody is laughing except that one guy in the back which everyone can hear. WTF is wrong with him? Is he breathing nitrous oxide?
 
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Ah, looks like I picked a bad example. But, I'm sure the list of things Darwin didn't understand was still quite extensive.

My point is that real scientific journalism wouldn't use that kind of argument. There's no reason why scientists, today, couldn't understand all those things.

OK. Next time point out that he got the ancestor of the chicken wrong.
 
I would like to mention, as a reminder, that in any case evolution does not 'create' things, it merely weeds out things that are detrimental to survival and reinforces things that are advantageous. Thus, laughter could be something that does no harm but also has no particular advantage--but happened to be present in the group(s) that survived for other reasons.
Well, natural selection doesn't create things, but natural selection in combination with mutation certainly does.
And that's a very large part of what evolution is: mutation + selection.

Not everything has to have an evolutionary advantage to be present.
Definitely true. Not only, as you point out, does genetic drift cause traits that have no advantage to become fixed in populations, but if we look at particular traits we often categorize them wrong: not realising for instance, that it wasn't A that was selected for, but B, and A just happens to be a necessary byproduct of B.

For example, look at the variety of hair colors and eye colors found in humans!
That's not necessarily a good example, however. It's not totally clear that hair and eye colour aren't adaptations. They may be have been a product of sexual selection, for instance. Though I can see that they may not be adaptations, as an example of something which obviously or necessarily isn't, I don't think they hold up.

Any biological issue involved in the selection of same was long ago buried in the genetic mixing that came with significant means of travel. With perhaps a few exceptions in the deep rainforests or among the Aborigines, we are all 'mutts' whose forebears come from multiple continents.
I don't quite see what this has to do with the point, though. Clearly the selective pressures during our recent evolution, that caused us to be what we are today, were different than the selective pressures that exist now.

But that doesn't suggest that particular traits weren't selected for.

It is surprising to me that people often forget this when discussing evolutionary basis and selection of traits. Some things are neither advantageous nor costly, they just are. Genetic drift can cause some of these "arbitrary" traits to be more or less common without there being any selective pressure based upon the trait.
Definitely. And there are also "spandrels" as Steven J. Gould calls them: traits which, as I said before, are simply the by products of other traits, and not selected for themselves.

:o)
 
Even when living at home, they still typically make decisions independently of what their parents might want.

As did I, even before I was ever a teenager.

Actual living quarters of the person has little to do with it.

Well I sorry, but I guess I am just still missing your point about developing into an adult. Either you do it in a family environment or on your own (even in what can be defined as a poor family environment), but either way you survive to what would be considered adulthood in whatever environment you find yourself or you simply do not.
 
How about "nervous laughter"? I see there were two studies about laughter cited above, but I will admit not having taken the time (yet - I will, I promise!) to read them.

I am an actor, and a couple years ago I was in a production of "Long Day's Journey Into Night." While there is some comedy in the play, it is mostly a horror story. The majority of our audiences recognized that. But one night, you would have thought we were doing a comedy. There was laughter almost throughout the play. Even in the final scenes, when the men are eviscerating each other and Mary enters totally strung out on morphine, the laughter just kept coming. It was one of the oddest nights I've ever had on stage.

Surprised that you found that odd.

I know that evisceration always cracks me up. ;)
 

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