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Telepathy

It turned out they had a reservation for a certain Mr. Alfaromeo, Mike.


My mother, being a lawyer, writes her name, "Mary Rogers, Esq." Some years ago, she reserved a table at a fancy restaurant (if memory serves). When she arrived, she was greeted with, "Hello, Mrs. Esq."
 
I should mention that these closed-deck experiments, which are what statistically untrained people think of first, are not well suited for the intended purpose, because it is difficult to impossible to calculate the false negative probability of the test, and hence it's hard to know whether the test is fair to the testee. Much better are experiments that use independent trials, where the false negative rate is easy to calculate and the number of trials comprising the test can be chosen according to the desired false negative and false positive rate.

Could you explain that a little more? (I believe you, I just don't understand why it's so.)

To understand the problem with the closed-deck approach, it helps to first understand the advantage of the alternative: independent trials. Say an individual claims that if you draw a random card from a freshly shuffled 52-card deck, he can guess the card (number and suit) 10% of the time. This, if true, would be quite a feat, since the probability of guessing the card by chance is just 1/52. We can test this person's claim by giving him n independent trials where for each trial one card is drawn from the deck, he makes his guess, the card is replaced, and the deck reshuffled for the next trial.

Let's say for now we decide to give him n=100 trials. It might seem natural to decide that if he can get at least k=10 of the trials correct, then we will declare that he has demonstrated his claim, and if he fails to get 10 correct then he has failed to demonstrate his claim. Is this a fair test? The answer is no. The reason is that if he truly has a 10% chance of guessing each card correctly then the probability that he will get 10 or more correct guesses out of 100 trials is only a little over 0.5 (it's actually .55 to two decimal places). Thus even if he has the ability he claims, there is almost a 50% chance we will wrongly conclude that his claim is false. It follows that for the test to be fair to the claimant we must make it more lenient and declare the test successful if he gets some fraction k/n < 0.1 of the trials correct.

In designing our test we need to be fair to the claimant, but also fair to ourselves. That is, if the claim is true, we want our test to have a high probability of declaring that it is true; this probability is called the power of the test. However, if the claim is false we want to have a low probability of erroneously declaring it be true; that is, we want the test to have a low false positive rate (FPR). Notice that for a fixed n, the smaller we set k, the greater the power of the test, but also the greater the test's FPR. So, for a given n there is a trade-off between power and FPR. The question is, is there a way we can design a test that has both high power and low FPR? The answer is yes, we can increase the number of trials n. In fact for a given target power and FPR, there is a unique k and n if the trials are independent. For example, say we want the test to have power of 0.9 and a FPR of 1/10,000. It turns out that the test should comprise n=187 trials and require at least k=14 correct guesses.

The results above follow from the assumptions that (1) each trial is independent with (2) constant probability of success from trial to trial. These assumptions imply that the number of success in the sequence of trials follows a binomial distribution. Knowing that the sequence has a binomial distribution allows us to identify the unique values k and n that give us our desired power and FPR.

In the closed-deck design, however, neither of the above assumptions hold. If an individual claims he can correctly identify, say, 5 cards out a sequence of 52 with probability 0.5, we know that if we require him to identify at least 5 cards, then our test will have only 50% power and will be unfair to him. We know we have to set k to some value less than 5 to give the test sufficient power to be fair to him. But we have no idea how to determine k. The probability of correctly identifying k cards, given that he can identify 5 cards with 50% probability, does not follow any known distribution. If we set k to some value, we have no idea what the power of the test will be, and if we decide we want power of, say, 0.9, we have no idea what value to choose for k. We can try asking claimant how many cards he can identify with 90% probability, but it is unlikely he would really have a concrete idea, and regardless, it is nice to be able to take the claim we are given and design the test around it, rather than requiring the claimant to amend his claim to accommodate the limitations of a statistically awkward test design.
 
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To understand the problem with the closed-deck approach, it helps to first understand the advantage of the alternative: independent trials.


That was fascinating. Thank you for taking the time to explain it. If KotA every resurfaces, this will be very helpful in designing a test. And I would appreciate your input into any such negotiations.
 
I suspect that any supposedly credible demonstration of telepathy would just make most physicists laugh. Perhaps one or two might wonder what went wrong in the telepathy experiment.

Then the experiment would not be credible.

If an experiment was designed like the tests for the MIllion Dollar Challenge, I believe scientists would be interested in reproducing it.
 
Then the experiment would not be credible.

If an experiment was designed like the tests for the MIllion Dollar Challenge, I believe scientists would be interested in reproducing it.

Yeah, some experimental psychologist somewhere would probably try a replication. But physicists will simply think the experiment was flawed, even if it replicated, I suspect.
 
Does remedy even work? Also does Randy even have a million dollars?

The challenge was closed and the money put towards various charities.

Many other paranormal prizes are out there including the grand prize of being the first human to do such a thing, TV appearances, etc.

I would net anyone who cared about such things a sum much greater than 1 million.
 
Seems like it might involve math. Most of my things involve hearing things that become relevant in time, usually only important to me. I guess the discussion I had today involved talking about my voices. The person asked me if I could predict the future, I said the voices know the future and make comments that make sense only later at which point I use the comment. Also my memory works in a funny way. For instance my boss called me at the bottom of the stairs to remind me to pick up some meds for a client. I didn't recall that I was supposed to do that at the bottom of the stairs , but probably it would have come to me by the time I got to the office. Also, I profile people really well really quickly. I think one of my voices is a Norn.
 
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Well then if that is the case, then I hope that none of your professors are reading your brilliant postings about the space ships you have seen, the people from Atlantis that you say are real, and how there are a number of people with telepathic powers.

No worse than bible literalists, I suppose.
 
That's covered in the "I then post the sequence here as a hash" bit, isn't it? LL posts an encrypted version of the sequence, you post your sequence in clear, then LL posts the decryption key so anyone can compare the two. Sounds good enough to me, as it eliminates cheating while not requiring a third party.

Dave

I don't exactly understand your encryption method, but as long as there is one, I'm good.
 
I type the string of cards into this MD5 hash generator along with a nonsense word thrown in to keep it from being forcibly broken. I'll post it before you even make your guesses. It's easy to see if my sequence generates the same hash.

For example, the sequence of cards 3H 9H KS 9C and 10H might get a hash that looks like this:

a75009ee07ce72cd28e01dabdebe1047

You then make your guesses and, after you're done, I inform people that I encoded "Butterfly3H9HKS9C10H". Anyone can go to the MD5 generator, paste that in and get: a75009ee07ce72cd28e01dabdebe1047. The hashes are the same.

If I try to change even one letter, like telling people that I pulled the queen and not the king of spades, the whole hash changes. "Butterfly3H9HQS9C10H" creates the hash: 4751a47d3e977156c1c85974989a6124. That's not just a little bit different, it's completely and obviously different. It's a very efficient way to prevent cheating.

Alright, that's freaking awesome...

So, what date should we start, and what time?

I work on campus wednesdays and thursdays 12-5. Night classes tuesdays and thursdays 6-9.

How does mondays and fridays 7-9'ish work for you?
 
Okay King, are you good with the proposal? LL will pick five cards from a deck of 52 and post a hash. Then LL looks at a card for 5 minutes at a time you suggest. One card each of five consecutive days. Shortly after each time, you post publicly the card. After the fifth time, LL posts the answers. To score, you have to match all five exactly in order.

Will that work?

We shall see I guess!?
 

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