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Telepathy

Fudbucker said:
You assert that. What we think we know and what turns out to be the case are often two different things.
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Well yes I do assert it in this post, but it isn't an assertion it's now a matter of fact. If I get chance when I'm on my PC I'll drag the various links and post.

At certain scales we really have reality pinned down completely accurately. Any information flow from one brain to another has to be in accordance with what we now know to be how reality works. The gaps that the claimed supernatural telepathy could have lived in have been fully described.
 
Fudbucker said:
You assert that. What we think we know and what turns out to be the case are often two different things.
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Darat said:
Well yes I do assert it in this post, but it isn't an assertion it's now a matter of fact. If I get chance when I'm on my PC I'll drag the various links and post.

At certain scales we really have reality pinned down completely accurately. Any information flow from one brain to another has to be in accordance with what we now know to be how reality works. The gaps that the claimed supernatural telepathy could have lived in have been fully described.
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This is a good place to start. If you don't want to watch it all, skip to the last 12 minutes or so.
 
Fudbucker said:
It would account for supposed paranormal accounts that otherwise reliable people have reported. A teacher I've worked with for over a decade swears her daughter saw grandma walking down the hallway right around the same time she died in the hospital. And the daughter, who later became a teacher I also worked with, verified the whole thing.
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Was it documented when it happened? If not, once again you are confusing the inaccuracy of memory with that of our senses.
 
Bikewer said:
Telepathy is not necessary to explain such things. We know that subliminal inputs can warn us of things before we become consciously aware of the cause. I've experienced this myself.

Athletes refer to being "in the zone" when it's like the body is running itself at a high level of performance.
Skilled martial artists often appear to "know what the opponent is going to do" before he does it. This is just long experience and the ability to read subtle body cues and facial expression, further developed by years of training.
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Agreed.
 
Crossbow said:
If a person actually had telepathic powers, then there would be any number of ways that such a person could use his powers to make oodles of money. Playing cards, espionage, being a police investigator, being a lawyer, being a reporter, and so on.
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Many probably are...
 
Fudbucker said:
It would account for supposed paranormal accounts that otherwise reliable people have reported. A teacher I've worked with for over a decade swears her daughter saw grandma walking down the hallway right around the same time she died in the hospital. And the daughter, who later became a teacher I also worked with, verified the whole thing.

Either every account like that (and there are countless anecdotes) are all lies, which is absurd, or people are grossly mistaken about what they're seeing, which doesn't help the whole "senses are reliable" argument, or something genuinely strange sometimes happens to people.

It also could be that telepathy happens all the time, but our brains do it automatically, below the conscious level, so it goes unnoticed, like digestion. And occasionally it percolates to the conscious, and you have a genuine moment of precognition or whatever. The causal mechanism would be unknown, but then that's true of lots of things.
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If vision is so unreliable, how do you explain the proliferation of visual arts and sciences throughout human history?

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theprestige said:
This property--reliable, predictable, consistent--is a property of real things that do useful work in the real world.

At the most basic level, telepathy isn't real because it cannot be tested. If the test fails, "oh, it's not reliable." If the prediction is wrong, "oh, it's not predictable." If the results look like noise, "oh, it's not consistent."
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Some batters are great at certain times of the season or game, some batters are or have the same or a similar batting average through the season.

I found 'the zone' only once, but I didn't miss anything that day. EVERYTHING I shot went in. As a Senior I played one on one against a scholarship athlete at a Division II school, and beat him, easily.

Most of the time I was merely slightly above average in stats. That said, all of my coaches, saw me as our closer. Get the ball to me, and I'll get us the win. My last free throw was always a make, whereas I might miss ones in the first quarter.

I won way more games than I lost, but I was inconsistent in my performances. But I had talent, that I had honed.

I think the best test would be to have poker players asking questions of someone while they are plugged into a lie-detector machine.
 
King of the Americas said:
So, anyone want to help run an experiment?
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At an agreed time, I will shuffle a deck of cards. I'll turn them over and concentrate on each card for five seconds. I will post the series as a hash. You will post your guess. I'll then decode the hash and we can compare your answers. Let's agree on a number of cards you need to guess correctly. I would say that 10 cards would be a show that would merit a repeat test. After two tests, we can devise a more sound scientific test with witnesses.
 
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