Teens trash house while owner gone.

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/19/us/new-york-teens-house-party/

About 300 teenagers are realizing they picked the wrong place to throw a wild party after breaking into a former NFL player's second home and causing more than $20,000 in damage.

"I blew past furious to what's important: How do we save these 300 lives that thought this was a good idea?" Holloway said.

Holloway says parents threatened him after he posted pictures of their children online in an attempt to hold them accountable.

"Parents are upset with me when their child was in my house ... taking drugs, using roofies and drinking, and they're going to be upset with me?" he said in disbelief.
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The part about parents threatening him after he identified the vandals is especially distasteful. You can see some of the tweets and photos here; http://helpmesave300.com/

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Oh, my little Snotleigh and Bratleigh would never do anything like that! How dare you accuse my precious darlings!?!

I'm a little gobsmacked that so many teens showed up to this man's house to party. Were these kids raised by jackals?
 
If I was a kid growing up there I'd think the whole thing was dope (do they still say that? :o ) but I'm not a kid growing up there and I think the whole thing was gross.
 
IMO all who can be identified from the films should be charged as adults, and would hopefully spend several months in prison.

I haven't researched possible charges.
 
Why charged as adults, instead of what they are?

What is the point of a separate juvenile justice system if we are arbitrarily deciding that sometimes it doesn't count?
 
AlBell said:
IMO all who can be identified from the films should be charged as adults, and would hopefully spend several months in prison.

I haven't researched possible charges.
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Sure. It's not like the US is already incarcerating more of its population per capita than any other nation in the world. Wait, it is?

Seriously, 300 people doing $20,000 in damage is obviously bad, but it's less than $100 damage per person. Apart from potential recidivists, there's no justification for even fantasizing about such draconian punishment.
 
KatieG said:
Oh, my little Snotleigh and Bratleigh would never do anything like that! How dare you accuse my precious darlings!?!

I'm a little gobsmacked that so many teens showed up to this man's house to party. Were these kids raised by jackals?
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Lot's of kids are barely "raised" at all - their parents don't have parenting skills, they want to be their child's best friend and believe that if they treat their children like they were responsible adults the kid will act accordingly.

Very poorly thought out approach.

I saw much of it on the job, and believe it or not there were parents that would view the dashcam video of junior pulled over, fail the FST, puke during the proceeding, and insist that junior really didn't blow a .28 and he had the flu - the empty bottle of Captain Morgan must have been planted by the cops.

There are good parents too:

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matie...ghtmare-for-visiting-Yale-singers-2624293.php

I know very well the family of one of the kids that committed the assault described above.

The father went to his employer and submitted his resignation because he didn't want to bring shame to the company where he worked. He and his wife never once acted to minimize their sons involvement or acted to make sure he didn't face the consequences of his actions.

The father's employer did not accept his resignation.
 
As outrageous and inexcusable as what they did was, he might have gone too far with the Internet vigilantism. Let the police identify them.

They are minors after all and shouldn't have their photos disseminated without permission.

Even though they made the photos and posted them to Twitter themselves.
 
I think this sort of intrusion needs to be dealt with in a big way. Obviously the kids' parents haven't got a clue as to how to raise their kids and give them some moral fiber, so if the victim who had his home - his castle - violated by them takes it into his own hands because no one in a position of authority will do so, then that's probably the best all around. The important thing is that the sanctity of one's home is as large a part of our heritage as the Rock of Plymouth and mom's gefilte fish. This is an affront to everything this country used to stand for.

shemp said:
You don't do this to an ex-Patriot. Hang them high!
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Oh, THAT Holloway? Never mind. Probably left the door unlocked and put up a sign so he could hit on under-aged chicks, I'll bet. Go Giants!



Disclaimer: This post is made for entertainment purposes only. No actual Patriots were harmed in the making of this post.
 
colander said:
Teens trash house while owner gone! Doo dah, doo dah.
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Teens trash house while owner gone! Doo dah, doo dah.
Barf in sink and pee on lawn! Oh the doo dah day.
Gonna drink all night!
Gonna drink all day!
Spend my money on jack n' kush
Something, something something [rhymes with "day"]
 
Ranb said:
The part about parents threatening him after he identified the vandals is especially distasteful.
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Yep. I wonder if they'll play a different tune when he sues them for the damages. The parents are responsible for the damage done by their minor children.

Babbylonian said:
Seriously, 300 people doing $20,000 in damage is obviously bad, but it's less than $100 damage per person. Apart from potential recidivists, there's no justification for even fantasizing about such draconian punishment.
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Nitpick: that's only an estimate of the damage. Not included are the stolen items.

EeneyMinnieMoe said:
As outrageous and inexcusable as what they did was, he might have gone too far with the Internet vigilantism. Let the police identify them.

They are minors after all and shouldn't have their photos disseminated without permission.

Even though they made the photos and posted them to Twitter themselves.
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So how would the police identify them, other than put up the faces on a website and ask the public to help them?

Moreover, the police is not going to get his damages reimbursed. Methinks Holloway's interest in identifying the culprits who trashed his house overrides their interest in their privacy.
 
EeneyMinnieMoe said:
As outrageous and inexcusable as what they did was, he might have gone too far with the Internet vigilantism. Let the police identify them.

They are minors after all and shouldn't have their photos disseminated without permission.

Even though they made the photos and posted them to Twitter themselves.
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I disagree with the idea that raising good kids starts with removing public accountability, and the consequences of having to publicly accept responsibility for your actions.

In fact I believe this idea of sheltering a person capable of crime from consequences is exactly what perpetuates this behavior. Age is often cited as not a significant factor in and of itself, it is maturity and the ability to be responsible that matters not some arbitrary number, but then we forget that as soon as its "for the children."

TLDR:
Discipline and responsibility grow out of the hard knocks of being held publicly accountable.
 
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Geez...who's teaching these kids? Everyone knows you don't trash a stranger's house for a party...you trash your parent's house while they're out of town...then wear your month-long grounding as a badge of honor.

Stupid new generation can't get anything right. :)
 
Xulld said:
I disagree with the idea that raising good kids starts with removing public accountability, and the consequences of having to publicly accept responsibility for your actions.

In fact I believe this idea of sheltering a person capable of crime from consequences is exactly what perpetuates this behavior. Age is often cited as not a significant factor in and of itself, it is maturity and the ability to be responsible that matters not some arbitrary number, but then we forget that as soon as its "for the children." TLDR:
Discipline and responsibility grow out of the hard knocks of being held publicly accountable.
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I agree and the mere fact that the parents are finding fault with him publicizing their faces is probably a factor in the kids thinking it was acceptable to go ahead and do it in the first place. The one little fact that the parents are over-looking is; the pictures were already public, you half-wits! He pulled the pictures off of Twitter which probably has more views than his heartfelt web site.

I am astounded that he gave them a chance to redeem themselves but out of three hundred kids, one showed up. Mob mentality or not, if my kid was involved, not only would my kid be there but I would be there, too, cracking the whip and working myself to make up for somehow not teaching my kid a vital lesson about respect. Just for good measure, I would throw in free lawn service for... I don't know... the rest of my kid's residency under my roof.
 
Out of 300 attendees, I doubt if it's possible to create a one profile-fits-all.

Some were probably the instigators and in possession of the full knowledge of what they were doing was wrong (or were just idiots). Some may have been invited by a friend to someplace unfamiliar, showed up, tried to have a nice time, saw some bad things going down, and left. And I bet most were somewhere in between. I hope a full investigation does occur and each one is justly sorted out.
 
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