TED: Google Consciousness
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Well, insomnia led me to finally take a look at this.
Yay blobby! Though another example of misrepresentation from BF; while many members here may be academics (and for all I know, you are too), it seems disingenuous to talk of academics and then produce a quote from this forum.
Well, no, really, it doesn't. You and your friend Maf waffle on about a vague idea. Dennett gets mentioned in passing. (And don't you think you might have mentioned who was in the video? I was expecting Dennett himself.)
Complete nonsense, especially the first sentence which doesn't actually say anything. The second sentence is simply wrong. And if you're going to take the guy's name in vain, at least have the courtesy to spell it correctly.
No, this is new nonsense, though I think there was an oblique reference to OS012 regarding editing wikipedia pages.
You are correct in this, though. There was one part that was accurate, when Rome said, "We don't know what we are talking about".
If you'd actually spent enough time observing Professor Yaffle's posting habits to be able to make that comment based on facts, it would not have escaped you that PY is in fact a she.
Did you catch my brief yet in all immodesty scene-stealing virtual cameo @ 8:22 - 8:28 (quoted from this post), ON? I art faymoose.
Yay blobby! Though another example of misrepresentation from BF; while many members here may be academics (and for all I know, you are too), it seems disingenuous to talk of academics and then produce a quote from this forum.More misrepresentation, sadly; it's TEDx, a local version, not TED itselfYes... mmm... well, I guess the Guardian (a 'tabloid' of some description I take it) might, in some circles, have a certain, oh I don't know, cachet perhaps, but should one really, really mention it in the same post, as if on par, with TED (T.E.D. - Technology, Entertainment and Design - the TED!), hmmm? (I wonder.)
TED... x?(gulp -- blobby wraps & returns faymooseness FedEx).
Don't take it too hard, it's still more faymooseness than most of us can hope to achieve.
Zoo - do you understand what this talk is about?
lol, now I dont know what your talking about
maybe you do know what the talks is about
You are correct in this, though. There was one part that was accurate, when Rome said, "We don't know what we are talking about".
lol, perhaps the only honest TED speaker ever to do so!
like I care
oh brother
TED is a brand that has expanded worldwide, so YES it is a TED talk organized under TEDx - if you go to TED.com you will find the talk there..
TED... x?
dont worry Blu ol pal - TEDx is still TED it's just that the TED brand expanded worldwide - it's still up on the TED site just happened in the UK instead of Southern Cali
also, you should know that the talk made the editor's pick on TED, plus is still the #1 Most Popular TEDx talk in the world. Out of 7k talks worldwide, that's quite an accomplishment! thanks for making a cameo in our story.
http://tedxtalks.ted.com/pages/popular
Yes, I agree. That put me off it immediately.
They did have some interesting bits, like the part about Egypt.
13:35 "The sentient web is now attacking the very power structures that threaten its existence in the Middle East."
But talking to plants while on drugs is like Google being conscious?
The concept is in your mind? I could agree with that.
I put ayahuasca into the talk because a.) it was an important entry point in the actual story 2.) because it was a great way to distinguish between two distinct views in philosophy regarding consciousness, dualism and materialism 3.) to show how google is a unique metaphor that can explain or share something in common with both of them - or both models can share a transcendent in common 4.) what's more absurd, conscious plants or conscious computers? your answer is probably culturally determined 5.) it makes for interesting story telling.
gee that's it? that's your rebuttal? i say Dennet's model ironically explains how SEO works you simply say 'no it doesn't'? yikes
if you disagree, that's fine, but i'm not sure how qualified your argument is since you simply have not provided one.
zoo-
fyi i was not just referring to this discussion forum in the talk, but my discussion with blobru stood out more than others and he is quite academic in his POV and arguments imho - which is why it's there. I know other academics IRL .
please spend more sleepless nights and your quality time trying to find little bits and pieces of the talk that are inaccurate, and once you have collected them all into one place and surround yourself with glee knowing you have proved ol fun loving Bubblefish wrong once again, take note that the talks starts off explaining that my buddy and i get hired to create MEMES that go VIRAL and this is a STORY about a MEME. my buddy and I use social media TECHNOLOGY and we ENTERTAIN our selves by DESIGNING viral and social media platforms - and you will be seeing the ol 0 1 2 discussion platform out on the net soon, hoping v.1 to be up end of year.
the proof is in the pudding. Most popular TEDx talk in the world, over 130k views on YT. Google Consciousness is a viral.
fyi i was not just referring to this discussion forum in the talk, but my discussion with blobru stood out more than others and he is quite academic in his POV and arguments imho - which is why it's there. I know other academics IRL .
please spend more sleepless nights and your quality time trying to find little bits and pieces of the talk that are inaccurate, and once you have collected them all into one place and surround yourself with glee knowing you have proved ol fun loving Bubblefish wrong once again, take note that the talks starts off explaining that my buddy and i get hired to create MEMES that go VIRAL and this is a STORY about a MEME. my buddy and I use social media TECHNOLOGY and we ENTERTAIN our selves by DESIGNING viral and social media platforms - and you will be seeing the ol 0 1 2 discussion platform out on the net soon, hoping v.1 to be up end of year.
the proof is in the pudding. Most popular TEDx talk in the world, over 130k views on YT. Google Consciousness is a viral.
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Professor Yaffle
Butterbeans and Breadcrumbs
Shui Yin Lo, who is one of many. Haven't talked to him in a few years and he was not whom I was referring to - Call him what you want, but the guy is STILL an academic with probably a much more impressive CV than most here. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/ATG/lo.html
Other academics that i know who were associated with the talk are up on the www.googleconsciousness.com website.
Hellbound
Merchant of Doom
Physics Letters A: Impact Factor 1.963 (2010).
For comparison, the top ten rated journals are all higher than 28.
Not that this proves anything, but holding up a single publication in a low-impact journal as if it's evidence of validity is, well, not the best argument you can make.
ETA: Also, since you are apparently incapable of , admitetedly, unwilling to) provide a correct sourcing:
Evidence for the existence of stable-water-clusters at room temperature and normal pressure
Physics Letters A, Volume 373, Issue 42, 12 October 2009, Pages 3872-3876
Shui Yin Lo, Xu Geng, David Gann
The article is listed as having 1 citation in Scopus; and that's for an article in an accupuncture journal.
For comparison, the top ten rated journals are all higher than 28.
Not that this proves anything, but holding up a single publication in a low-impact journal as if it's evidence of validity is, well, not the best argument you can make.
ETA: Also, since you are apparently incapable of , admitetedly, unwilling to) provide a correct sourcing:
Evidence for the existence of stable-water-clusters at room temperature and normal pressure
Physics Letters A, Volume 373, Issue 42, 12 October 2009, Pages 3872-3876
Shui Yin Lo, Xu Geng, David Gann
The article is listed as having 1 citation in Scopus; and that's for an article in an accupuncture journal.
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Professor Yaffle
Butterbeans and Breadcrumbs
Last year? I know of the one from 2009 (linked to on this page http://www.chem1.com/CQ/clusqk.html) - has there been another?
ETA: I have 2 publications in the BMJ and one in BJPsych
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Professor Yaffle
Butterbeans and Breadcrumbs
That you wouldn't recognise decent science if it bit you on the backside?
and you do? lol is that what this is about?
It's "Dennett", not "Dennet". Then again, since you don't seem to know the difference between "your" and "you're", and are vague on the use of capital letters and punctuation, I can't say I'm surprised that you didn't spot it even when pointed out.
angrysoba
Philosophile
Hey! Where's Dennett? There's no Dennett in the video. The ideas are not interesting if there's no Dennett!