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Teabagger Whacktard Michelle Bachmann Promises $2 Gas

Mike! said:
I live less than ten minutes from a refinery, so you'd think gas would be super cheap here, but no. It's like a buck sixty still. Of course, if I drive to the next state (Also about ten minutes away, the other direction.) I can save about twenty, to twenty-five cents per gallon. But my car requires premium so I have to pay and extra Forty cents a gallon for the good stuff. Which does bring up another beef I got. It used to be ten cents between grades, now it's twenty. And who buys mid-grade anyway?
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Some car models require (or suggest?) higher grade gas. Mazda RX-8 for example.
 
Mike! said:
I live less than ten minutes from a refinery, so you'd think gas would be super cheap here, but no. It's like a buck sixty still. Of course, if I drive to the next state (Also about ten minutes away, the other direction.) I can save about twenty, to twenty-five cents per gallon. But my car requires premium so I have to pay and extra Forty cents a gallon for the good stuff. Which does bring up another beef I got. It used to be ten cents between grades, now it's twenty. And who buys mid-grade anyway?
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I know folks with cranky old cars with smaller engines who usde mid-grade to keep the engines from constantly knocking.
 
Dog Town said:
Does anyone know why the west seems to be most expensive?
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I paid $2.39 a gallon today at the cheapest station around. It is glorious to live in California! It's expensive here due to environmental regulations requiring different blends of gas at certain times of the year.
 
I believe its high (still dirt cheap compared to Cali) in NM, and far west Texas because an outfit called Western Refineries pretty much has a corner on the market. It doesn't matter where you buy gas out here it was refined there and just re-branded with additives mixed (ie Techron).
 
I paid under $2.00 today thanks to the $0.20 store loyalty discount we'd earned. But it wouldn't have been much over anyhow, and we have among the highest gas taxes in the USA.

I haven't been North in a couple of years, but the last time there were clusters of gas stations either side of the US/Canada border. Sometimes most of them are closed on one side, sometimes on the other, depending on how the price is going in either country.
 
WildCat said:
In related news Tesla's stock price takes a tumble in response to poor sales due to a large degree, no doubt, by low gas prices.
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Who buys a $70,000 car to save money on gas?

Dog Town said:
Don't forget the COST of disposing of the battery!
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Tesla's Closed Loop Battery Recycling Program
Working with Umicore has allowed us to completely recycle the Roadster battery packs profitably, without special financial incentives necessary to promote recycling... Soon, we hope to have the ability to recycle our batteries back into their raw materials. Specifically, the metals can be reused in the battery cells and any plastics can be reclaimed and used to mold new plastic parts for our vehicles. The technology to enable this is available today – and it’s profitable!
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$1.369 here in mid Michigan. Expected to drop below a dollar within the next month or two all over the Midwest.
 
Damien Evans said:
Man I hate you guys. On a good day here it's 99 cents a litre. You lucky, lucky bastards.
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99p a litre here and it's more expensive on the continent.

That said, its the same price now that it was 15 years ago. Time for some politicians to grow a pair and reinstate the UK fuel tax rises that were put on "temporary" hold when prices went above £1.30 per litre.
 
portlandatheist said:
30.3 percent does:
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Why have you chosen so much coal in your electricity?

Sorry if my question sounds silly but it's serious. In my country I can choose the power company and the power source. I can make a contract for buying electricity from nukes, renewables, coal, water, wind, bio, mixed, or whatever the numerous competing power companies have to offer. And I choose not to buy coal.

Why do you use 30.3% coal?
 
spin0 said:
Why have you chosen so much coal in your electricity?

Sorry if my question sounds silly but it's serious. In my country I can choose the power company and the power source. I can make a contract for buying electricity from nukes, renewables, coal, water, wind, bio, mixed, or whatever the numerous competing power companies have to offer. And I choose not to buy coal.

Why do you use 30.3% coal?
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We have no such system in the US. Our options (at least in most of the country) are to buy from the local monopoly, put up solar panels, or go without power. I suppose if you have a ton of land you could put up your own wind turbines.

I remember another thread that went into how UK energy is done. It would take a nationalization of our power grid to make something similar happen in the US.
 
In Colorado one can choose to buy electricity from wind, specifically and exclusively. It's more expensive, comes through the same exact power grid and subsidises non-American companies building the turbines. New Belgium Brewery in Ft. Collins (their Fat Tire Amber ale is nationally distributed, for the curious) makes it a point of advertising to brag about doing this.

My city is part owner of a coal plant along with several other cities, so we get cheaper electricity. We can't choose to buy different electrons other than the wind option.
 
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spin0 said:
Why have you chosen so much coal in your electricity?

Sorry if my question sounds silly but it's serious. In my country I can choose the power company and the power source. I can make a contract for buying electricity from nukes, renewables, coal, water, wind, bio, mixed, or whatever the numerous competing power companies have to offer. And I choose not to buy coal.

Why do you use 30.3% coal?
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Um, everyone here is on exactly the same grid. Exactly the same. We have a choice of paying a premium to be "100% renewable" but this is an accounting trick, nothing more. I suspect it is the same where you have the "choice" to buy from nukes, renewables, etc.
 
I paid $1.59 today in Chicago proper. But that was at Costco, which is about 25 cents a gallon cheaper than anyone else on the north side.

It's about 10-15 cents a gallon cheaper on the south side, I guess because it's closer to the refineries in northwest Indiana.
 
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