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Tea Party Convention

Sword_Of_Truth said:
And that, my friend, is probably giving the democrats nightmares.

That was what cost Al Gore Florida in 2000. Disaffected hard lefties went for Ralph Nader and it only took a few hundred to throw the election to Bush.

If the Green/Nader vote went to Gore, the last eight years would never have happened (9/11 would still have happened, but Gore would have surrendered to Bin Laden and we'd have had 6+ years of adjustment time to life under the Islamic Caliphate behind us by now).

Obama has until November 2012 to turn the United States into an island in the Gulag Archipelago or else it could happen again.
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I think the Democrats should prepare themselves to lose their majority...

They HAD a super majority, but rather than FORCE a Republican filibuster, they accomplished squat, bupkiss, zip, zero, nada. When you control all 3 branches of the lawmaking portion of government, and you get NOTHING accomplished...it's your fault.

I really can't see myself voting Green Party again, but I can see myself staying home.

I voted for change, not compromise that still doesn't win bi-partisan support

All that said, I HOPE the Tea Party grows, and I HOPE that they continue to fill their ranks with people like Joseph Farrah. I mean his birth certificate rantings prove a complete lack of objectivity. *How do you 'fake' birth announcements in 2 newspapers, from 4 decades ago, knowing full well that the infant is going to be President someday???

I am sure all Tea Party members don't swallow the whole "Obama is a Kenyan", but Farrah got a big cheers & applause all through his birther rant.

And then to go on an on and on about returning to Biblical principles...?

This is NOT how to win the middle.
 
King of the Americas said:
I just finished watching the end of the Tea Party Convention...

Joseph Farrah was the keynote speaker tonight.

After railing on about the absence of President Obama's birth certificate, he went on to talk about how our country needs to return to the Bible, and follow Christ's teachings.
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that is very....very sad. this and Palin's appearance may mean the end of the "Tea Baggers" and anything but a bunch of loony tunes.
 
parky76 said:
that is very....very sad. this and Palin's appearance may mean the end of the "Tea Baggers" and anything but a bunch of loony tunes.
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The end? Absolutely not.

There IS a 'growing' Tea Party Movement, afoot. Some polls show that they could represent as much as 1/3 of the Republican Party.

They are not 'turned off' by Farrah's comments, they are emboldened by them.

Palin is HUGE among far right part of the GOP. I predict regardless of the "looniness" she spouts, she's gonna get huge applause from this crowd.

The Tea Party will crest at about 5-15% of the voting public...not unlike the Green Party at their peak.
 
will the Tea Party seek to become an actual party and put their own candidates into elections?

or will they just try to make the GOP as loony and righty as possible?

it seems the latter is their way right now. to turn the Republican Party into the Republikaner Party.
 
wanting to forbid HMOs from dropping people due to becoming sick= angry hard lefties.

wanting to forbid HMOs from not covering pre-existing conditions
=angry hard lefties.

wanting to keep the health-care status quo= moderate American.

:)
 
The Tea Party convention, doesn't actually represent the Tea Party. Its an attempt to cash in on some of them from what I've been reading.

Having a Tea Party convention is on its face..... dumb? The Tea Party is a meta-party. There is no actual platform. Its a single issue meta-party from what I can tell whose issue is the runaway spending problems of the two major parties.
 
corplinx said:
The Tea Party convention, doesn't actually represent the Tea Party. Its an attempt to cash in on some of them from what I've been reading.
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how many of the official Tea Party groups are involved with this shenanogan?
 
uk_dave said:
That's very specific. Citation?
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Right here.

Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure.
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35 + 26 = 61.

This isn't a democrat thing, it isn't a republican thing. It's a human thing. We're generally rather silly creatures and our biases drives to do or believe silly things regardless of our affiliations.

uk_dave said:
Oops, sorry. Ignore my previous question.
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"Turning the United States into a Gulag" was a rhetorical flourish, but the 61% was very specific and you were wll within your rights to ask.
 
Peephole said:
Are you really calling people in favour of the insurance industry approved and relatively conservative health car bill, "angry hard lefties"?
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Did you read the quote from the article on Michael Moore that I provided? He made it quite clear he does not want the "industry approved" bill.

Some people on this forum really don't understand how far out they are.
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Agreed. Some peephole on this forum don't understand how far out they are at all.
 
corplinx said:
The Tea Party convention, doesn't actually represent the Tea Party. Its [sic] an attempt to cash in on some of them from what I've been reading.
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This seems to be a common theme in Tea Party discussions. When a critic points to ludicrous, irrational, even racist rantings by Tea Party people, he is told that this is not the true Tea Party.

When asked what the true Tea Party is, about the only agreement is that it's not a party. (Well--at least the only agreement among some Tea Party members--but these are obviously the true Scotsmen Tea Partisans.)
 
Pretty soon we'll be told that assinine things stated by the Tea Party are just being taken out of context.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Right here.



35 + 26 = 61.

This isn't a democrat thing, it isn't a republican thing. It's a human thing. We're generally rather silly creatures and our biases drives to do or believe silly things regardless of our affiliations.



"Turning the United States into a Gulag" was a rhetorical flourish, but the 61% was very specific and you were wll within your rights to ask.
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Really, "very specific", really? 26% weren't sure, how is that specific?

Of course I'm very disappointed either way but considering the crazy things people believe I shouldn't be surprised.

By the way, I think people who believe Obama is trying to turn this country socialist suffer the same lack of thinking skills as the ones in that poll.
 
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JoeTheJuggler said:
When asked what the true Tea Party is, about the only agreement is that it's not a party. (Well--at least the only agreement among some Tea Party members--but these are obviously the true Scotsmen Tea Partisans.)
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This is my answer to "what is the tea party?". You may have skipped over it in your quick attempt to link me to apologists for racial charged comments:

Having a Tea Party convention is on its face..... dumb? The Tea Party is a meta-party. There is no actual platform. Its a single issue meta-party from what I can tell whose issue is the runaway spending problems of the two major parties.

Do you fundamentally disagree with this analysis? I could be wrong. I am just going by what I've read myself.
 
parky76 said:
will the Tea Party seek to become an actual party and put their own candidates into elections?

or will they just try to make the GOP as loony and righty as possible?

it seems the latter is their way right now. to turn the Republican Party into the Republikaner Party.
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They are collecting monies for 'something' very political...

National Rallies and a C-span aired convention aren't peanuts. Attendees paid $500 each to attend.
 
corplinx said:
Having a Tea Party convention is on its face..... dumb? The Tea Party is a meta-party. There is no actual platform. Its a single issue meta-party from what I can tell whose issue is the runaway spending problems of the two major parties.
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The tea party didn't surface or start squawking until it was clear that Obama was going to win. And judging by the rhetoric coming out of the convention, I think the platform of the tea partier is: "One culture in this one nation under the Christian god as defined by the fundamentalist movement"
 
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