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TAM3 location suggestions

richardm said:


It's a bit heavy going, right enough. Part of the problem isn't so much the road as the fish wagons coming from Kilchoan at 60 m.p.h., with wing mirrors hanging off them :D
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Yikes! DUCK!
 
Soapy Sam said:
That and the fact that the tourists are too busy looking at the view to watch the road.

Oh, sorry, that would have been me if I was there. :)

And aye, jj, there are a few stretches with passing places. It's that narrow. Worth it though.

Well, given some of the roads I was on up in the highlands, I suspect I know what you mean. Ask me about the Vauxhaul I followed to Mallaig at about 15 mph the whole way. He wouldn't pull out ONCE for anyone, either. (&(*& yellow Vauxhaul. Can you imagine all the way from I think it was Tarbet to Mallaig behind a 15 mph vauxhall driving right down the middle, through the MIDDLE of the passing zones, etc? He even made some people coming the other way back up, they were rather furious with him, not that I blame them.

Irony was, we got to the ferry JUST in time, he stopped in town for some tea, and missed the ferry. Just after they closed the gates he came zooming up (moving faster than he had the whole way), only to get stopped by the toll person, who waved the ferry off, smiling in the direction of the ferry the whole time.

But that's an astonishing run for a weekend, ceptimus. Your backside must have been numb by the time you got home.
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Either numb or worse!
 
Michael Redman said:
Glacier National Park would be great, but it's too impractical logisticly. Not everyone can take off enough time to travel that far, or spend that kind of money.
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Granted, but Gardiner is quite possible and logistically plausable, too, and it's at the north entrace of Yellowstone. I even know where they can find the necessary meeting room :)

Glacier just wouldn't work, it would have to be Kalispell, and then the question "why" would come up immediately and for good reason. Lake Flathead is ok, but there are lots of "ok" lakes in the world, I wonder, maybe Lake Geneva? :) Oh, say, Lausanne, or that little town on the water down the hill from it?

Of course, there's that "magic springs spa" south of Kalispell... It would be fun to get Ian and Randi to visit THEM :) (I stopped there for a hamburger. It was a (very empty and inadvertantly amusing) very odd place. Hamburgers and aromatherapy on the menu, and the hot springs that cure everything out back. Hamburger was ok and cheap, though.
 
jj said:
Granted, but Gardiner is quite possible and logistically plausable, too, and it's at the north entrace of Yellowstone. I even know where they can find the necessary meeting room :)
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Even Gardiner is too remote, I'm afraid, for TAM. It needs to be in a major air market that people can get to directly and cheaply. Otherwise, a significant portion of folks will beg off.

However, a meeting of a sub group of JREFers in the mountains somewhere might be a really nice idea. :) (Jackson, WY?)
 
Michael Redman said:
Even Gardiner is too remote, I'm afraid, for TAM. It needs to be in a major air market that people can get to directly and cheaply. Otherwise, a significant portion of folks will beg off.

However, a meeting of a sub group of JREFers in the mountains somewhere might be a really nice idea. :) (Jackson, WY?)
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Hmm, Gardiner is a one-hour drive from Bozeman, and Horizon flies into there rather a few times a day. I've done it.

We might have to pony up a shuttle service between Bozeman and Gardiner :)

Jackson Hole is harder to get to, I think, do you use Idaho Falls or SLC?
 
Soapy Sam said:
But that's an astonishing run for a weekend, ceptimus. Your backside must have been numb by the time you got home.
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Yup. I was knackered. I went into work on the Monday, but I don't remember getting much work done. :)

I used to do those epic rides years ago. Another time, I rode all the way down through France from Le Harvre (I got the night ferry from Portsmouth), through Andorra and across Spain to Porto in Portugal, with just one overnight stop near Lourdes. I rode right through the second night, and got to the coast at dawn. That was about 1800 miles in 48 hours (including the one overnight camping stop) I didn't use any motorways / Autoroutes on that trip either. (I did use them on the 4 corners of Britain run).

I don't think I ever went above 150mph on the round-Britain run. The bike did over 170mph flat-out. Most of the time on good open roads, I was running about 100 - 110. Near Ardnamurchan, I was only averaging about 30. :(
 
I know I am posting late, but let me add my hearty, emphatic vote for New Orleans. It's a plane flight for me no matter what, so I am not biased because of distance. Here's a few reasons why it's a great place to have TAM3:

1. It's fun, and it's the same type of fun Las Vegas is: a grown up, edgy fun.

2. Like Vegas, It's one of the major battlegrounds of skeptical thought. Vegas has magicians and superstitious gamblers, and New Orleans has ghost stories and voodoo. In fact, I find that New Orleans' penchant for the weird and spooky a much more inviting place for skeptics to come and observe, debunk, or just soak it all in.

3. New Orleans isn't ALL the French Quarter. I've visited many different places in New Orleans, and I find the city wonderful. The city has many hotels and convention centers nowhere near the dangerous atmosphere of the fratboy-infested French Quarter.

4. New Orleans' history is very, very intriguing. I highly suggest staying and going on tours before and after TAM (if it ever gets there, that is). Cemetery tours, home tours, even ghost tours. Even a skeptic like me is highly entertained.


Oh, and if TAM never moves, go visit New Orleans anyway. I'm telling you, man!
 
PROD PROD PROD

Now that y'all back from Lost Wages...
 
I think it's time that the TAM came to Europe!

Then you could have one in America and one in Europe?

You could hold it in Birmingham at the NEC and then you could get Uri Geller to come and Colin Fry and Yvette Fielding and her Most Haunted crew and Derek Accora and Doris Stokes (I know she's dead but we could have a séance and she could talk to us that way!)

At least that way I could come and I wouldn't have to fly and it would give the skeptic movement over here a a good kick and perhaps make Living TV show something that's not based on fantasy!
 
As Tulsa, OK was the second runner up for this years TAM, I would like to propose it be considered for TAM 3. :)
 
tamiO at TAMIII in Miami along the Tamiami

Did I vote for New Orleans, yet? I say N O !
It's just a 5 hour drive for me. :) I haven't been in years. It's where we used to dock when we came to visit the States on Daddy's vacation every year.

We knew we were getting close when the toilet water on the ship turned brown. :D I would watch for that and then run up topside to wave like a Queen at people along the river.

I have pictures of me being chased by angry geese in Audobon Park. Is that the name? My parents were busy taking pictures and laughing while the geese were gaining on me. I didn't realise they just wanted my bag of goose food - as soon as I dropped that they stopped giving chase.

We also have pictures of my Cousin Bobby being pinned to the wall by angry deer. We went to all the side of the road zoos and attractions while we traveled.
 
Crossbow, I will need to know more about the schedule of events, lunches, dinners...will you have speakers?
 
I vote for Houston (or Dallas). I don't care for New Orleans. I have never gone to N.O. and not been robbed, or had my purse stolen or my car broken into. Maybe I'm just unlucky there!!
 
Anywhere in Europe would be really nice, but if we are going to have TAM3 in the U.S., I'm still hoping for New Orleans!

G6
 
Reality check time.
Although registration was a little more expensive this year, please remember an additional day was added and we had more speakers. The hotel was cheaper than Ft. Lauderdale, and you didn't have to take out a home equity loan to get dinner.
If you attended TAM II, please fill out the evaluation form with any suggestions. If you did not attend TAM II, but you are serious about attending TAM III, email Linda with any location suggestions. (but don't spam the poor woman, she's busy)
If you have an alternate location in mind, please consider the cost factor. For example, Ft. Lauderdale was very nice and the weather was lovely, but if you didn't drive there or rent a car, you were screwed.
Also please remember that the forum attendees represent less than half of the conference attendees. JREF is going to take the actual total into account.
 
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