TAM in Europe?

Nyarlathotep

Amsterdam, Kopenhagen and Barcelona are also great cities.

Amsterdam, with the Grachten ("canals") is almost like Venice. Kopenhagen has the Tivoli. Barcelona has the...I´m not sure of the name, I think it is La Rambla or something like that; and there is the Museum of Natural Science, three storeys full of exhibits about physics - bring you kids, too, they won´t want to leave the place...

(Berlin, Paris and London were not my idea, so I won´t advertise these cities; I have never been to Stockholm or Prague so I can´t say anything about them)


Holding two TAMs a year would be possible. Even if none of Europeans had attended TAM2, there still would have been more than 300 people there - which, I guess, would have been enough to make it worth the time and money.
Getting enough people to attend the European TAM could be more of a problem. I don´t know how many Americans would come - which is one reason why I set up the poll. Anyway, the majority of attendees would have to be Europeans. Certainly, there are European skeptics´ societies whose members would consider attending - if they know about the meeting.

I have no idea how many people it would take to make an Amazing Meeting profitable. As I said in another post, it would be nice to hear someone official say something about it.
 
While I would love to see TAM 3 in Europe I think there is one big obstacle........

Seeing as Randi has cancelled indefinitely his radio show on Doctors advice, would he be fit enough to go?

Although part of the fun of these things is meeting all the people on here it wouldn't really be TAM 3 with no Randi would it? Or everyone else at the JREF....
 
Shaun from Scotland said:
While I would love to see TAM 3 in Europe I think there is one big obstacle........

Seeing as Randi has cancelled indefinitely his radio show on Doctors advice, would he be fit enough to go?

Although part of the fun of these things is meeting all the people on here it wouldn't really be TAM 3 with no Randi would it? Or everyone else at the JREF....
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Hasn´t he been to Finland a month or two ago? It is much colder (read: bad for health) there than, for example, in Germany (read: shameless self-advertisement).
 
I would like to visit Amsterdam, any Scandanavian city or Barcelona.

I would also like to visit some non-European cities, such as Syndey, Australia. Yes, I know it is expensive to go to Australia, but I would love to go out into the country away from the city lights and see the southern stars (such as Alpha Centauri) for the first time. I also think it would be kind of a kick to see the moon "upside down."

And let's not forget Rio.
 
Chaos said:
Nyarlathotep

Amsterdam, Kopenhagen and Barcelona are also great cities.

Amsterdam, with the Grachten ("canals") is almost like Venice. Kopenhagen has the Tivoli. Barcelona has the...I´m not sure of the name, I think it is La Rambla or something like that; and there is the Museum of Natural Science, three storeys full of exhibits about physics - bring you kids, too, they won´t want to leave the place...
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I don't know much about Amsterdam, Barcelona or Copenhagen so I have never thought about visiting them. I take it that you have benn to all three, though, so I am willing to take your word that they are nice cities and would be good places to hold a TAM. I am a history buff so, truth be told, all they would have to have is a history museum or two and a handful of historical monuments and/or buildings and I would be as happy as can be. I am sure any major city in Europe would have plenty of those so I am sure I would enjoy my stay anywhere over there.
 
Nyarlathotep said:


I don't know much about Amsterdam, Barcelona or Copenhagen so I have never thought about visiting them. I take it that you have benn to all three, though, so I am willing to take your word that they are nice cities and would be good places to hold a TAM. I am a history buff so, truth be told, all they would have to have is a history museum or two and a handful of historical monuments and/or buildings and I would be as happy as can be. I am sure any major city in Europe would have plenty of those so I am sure I would enjoy my stay anywhere over there.
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Right. Any European city has several centuries´ worth of culture; London and Paris (and Barcelona, I think) have been around for more than 2,000 years, Rome and Athens even longer.

If you want lots of culture and history, visit Athens, London or Rome - or maybe Paris or Amsterdam.
For the best intercontinental air travel connections, choose London, Frankfurt or maybe Paris.
For relatively low prices, choose Prague or the vicinity of Frankfurt (at 600,000 inhabitants, Frankfurt is not that big, and public transport is very good, so "outside Frankfurt" is not far away)

In winter, Kopenhagen and Stockholm might be bad ideas. In summer, Rome and Barcelona ARE bad ideas (I have been in Rome in July and do not want to repeat that experience).

As an outsider entry, Malta (more exactly, the capital La Valetta) might be worth considering; it has history and culture, everybody speaks English, it is warm enough in winter (though atrocious in summer) - but I am not sure if there are adequate convention centers. It is also not so overrun with tourists, and most of the capital has kept its "small mediterranean town" charme. I´ve been there twice and would like to return.

Disclaimer: of the cities discussed in this thread, I have never visited Stockholm, Paris, Prague and Athens, and I have been to Berlin as a little boy only, so any information on them by me is hearsay only.
 
Chaos said:


Disclaimer: of the cities discussed in this thread, I have never visited Stockholm, Paris, Prague and Athens, and I have been to Berlin as a little boy only, so any information on them by me is hearsay only.
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Oh, you were in Berlin just last week??

:D
 
I have been to Amsterdam, Vaduz, Vienna, Sarajevo, Hamburg, Munich, Frankfort, Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm and Narvik (shout out to Johnno!) and I would love to go back to Europe, but there's no way I could go 8 hours in an airplane without a cigarette.
 
Russia would give a completely different perspective... I mean, some places are really awe-inspiring.
 
DanishDynamite said:
The Greek Church has a movement against woo-wooism? :eek: How does that work? Are their own beliefs excempted from scrutiny?
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Yes it has a -bureau against herecy and they debunk astrology, mediums etc( all these are considered heretic practices) but from the perspective of the church.I must admit that they do an excellent job and when it comes to astrology and mediumship they do it in a scientific way.

Of course Skepticism is by definition secular and I am not suggesting that the priests are skeptics.
 
I like Tam to be in England and Europe once in while. Mr. Randi has travelled around the world would a Tam meeting held out of America be so a bad thing?

America is so expensive to get to attend such Tam meetings. Maybe there are possible ways that a Tam or a Jref facility could be started up to cover the European contingent?
 
FOR ED'S SAKE! WHEN ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO REALISE THAT "AUSTRALIA" IS NOT THAT LITTLE COUNTRY TO THE EAST OF SWITZERLAND WHERE THE SOUND OF MUSIC WAS MADE? AND IT'S NOT THE FIFTY-UMPTEENTH STATE OF THE U.S.A?

Really... :rolleyes:

And to think some of us spent lots of time and money getting to Las Vegas to attend TAM too.

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Zep said:
FOR ED'S SAKE! WHEN ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO REALISE THAT "AUSTRALIA" IS NOT THAT LITTLE COUNTRY TO THE EAST OF SWITZERLAND WHERE THE SOUND OF MUSIC WAS MADE? AND IT'S NOT THE FIFTY-UMPTEENTH STATE OF THE U.S.A?

Really... :rolleyes:

And to think some of us spent lots of time and money getting to Las Vegas to attend TAM too.

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I am glad you cleared that up because I saw the terrain of that little country east of switzerland and thought the kangaroos must get mighty cold with all those mountains and snow, as for the fifty-umpteenth state of the US, I am pretty sure that's Canada.;)
 
I do not think that TAM in Europe is a bad idea and while we are at it I want to recommend Prague. I lived there for eight months in total and it is one of the most wonderful cities I have ever been to. The climate is good no matter the time of the year and for Nyarlathotep: the city is living history! Though I must say that Copenhagen is nice to although more expensive than Prague.

But I do not think that we shall hope for TAM3 in Europe it might be too soon. It takes a lot of effort and planning to arrange something like TAM. But perhaps we Europeans should start to look into the possibilities. If TAM is to be arranged in Europe it would be easier if a lot of the work is done by us. Btw is there anyone here in the forum from the Czech republic?
 
I like the idea of Prague. Then I like architecture and Prague has some stunning buildings.

The poll looks tied. The Europeans want a Tam in Europe and the Americans want a Tam in America.

Perhaps Linda or one of the Tam arrangers could say how possible would it to hold it in Europe or to set a European version up of one?

Are there any Jref meetings in England, or of any held by the other European countries?
 
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