Sylvia Browne: Skeptics, Dark Entities and Other Challenges

[desertgal]

The way Robert tells it she actually said, "Someone will be dealing with you." I doubt she could twist that into a psychic prediction about his health unless she wants her fans to believe she's got evil forces at her command or the ability to curse people.

RSL stated the following in this article: http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/articles/email_lasvegasatthesylviabrowneshow.shtml

From the email:
"[[ She was so heated, she could of exploded. I remember exactly what she said to you when she was being wheeled out, "SOMETHING BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU"!!!!!! ]]

RSL:
The closest I could come in the article was "Someone is going to deal with you!" and my wife thought it was "Someone is going to get you!" (but it couldn't have been that, because I know I would have added in my mind "...and your little dog too!"). But your recollection does sound familiar. And, if you think about it, it also sounds like something pretty generic and vague, which would be true of pretty much anyone on the planet.

I just discussed this with my wife, and she thinks that after Browne said the first thing (which my wife does not remember), she is pretty certain that as Browne was being wheeled away, the second thing she said was "Someone is going to get you!" I didn't hear the second thing, so I don't know.

So, it is quite possible that Browne did say "Something bad is going to happen to you." If she did, it would not be unlike her to exploit that statement as genuine psychic ability in light of Robert's current illness.

 

[ExMinister]

RSL stated the following in this article: http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/articles/email_lasvegasatthesylviabrowneshow.shtml

From the email:
"[[ She was so heated, she could of exploded. I remember exactly what she said to you when she was being wheeled out, "SOMETHING BAD IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU"!!!!!! ]]

RSL:
The closest I could come in the article was "Someone is going to deal with you!" and my wife thought it was "Someone is going to get you!" (but it couldn't have been that, because I know I would have added in my mind "...and your little dog too!"). But your recollection does sound familiar. And, if you think about it, it also sounds like something pretty generic and vague, which would be true of pretty much anyone on the planet.

I just discussed this with my wife, and she thinks that after Browne said the first thing (which my wife does not remember), she is pretty certain that as Browne was being wheeled away, the second thing she said was "Someone is going to get you!" I didn't hear the second thing, so I don't know.

So, it is quite possible that Browne did say "Something bad is going to happen to you." If she did, it would not be unlike her to exploit that statement as genuine psychic ability in light of Robert's current illness.

Yes, I guess if you take all those possible statements together, it could sound like a prediction. And I wouldn't put it past her either.

 

[ExMinister]

The book is available on Amazon. It has no reviews yet... why not write one? A calm, but negative, review? With even your casual perusal, you seem to have effortlessly picked out contradictions, if not outright lies...

Just a suggestion! There is a something, a little something, perhaps, that you could do; maybe it'll make you feel better, as well as informing others on Amazon? (I'm not suggesting that you should, or feel obliged to, mind you.)

And rant all you like about SB. Secretly, we love it.

Cheers
M

And thanks for the idea. I'd probably have to go back through the book in more detail before I'd do something like that, though I'm not sure my blood pressure can stand it.

 

[Jackalgirl]

The funny thing about Sylvia's so-called prediction, if she tries to claim it, is that it will probably turn out to be even better for RSL (and even worse for her) in the long run. Check out Susan's thread about how he's doing: he's doing fabulously well, but this may put him on long-term disability work-wise. Which means he'd be able to...

...stay home all day and work on SSB (and other Stop sites).

Plus, I personally think* that the long-term implications of his stroke will actually end up be very, very, very good for his health (in terms of his physical rehab and probable weight loss). So it's a temporary setback and when he gets back on track, boy had Sylvia and her ilk better watch out.

Sylvia, I predict that something you consider to be very bad is going to happen to you. It's called "factual information". A liar such as yourself should be quaking in her boots.



*for all that my completely non-medical, art-school background lends to my thoughts.

 

[RSL's better half]

The book is available on Amazon. It has no reviews yet... why not write one? A calm, but negative, review? With even your casual perusal, you seem to have effortlessly picked out contradictions, if not outright lies...

Just a suggestion! There is a something, a little something, perhaps, that you could do; maybe it'll make you feel better, as well as informing others on Amazon? (I'm not suggesting that you should, or feel obliged to, mind you.)

And rant all you like about SB. Secretly, we love it.

Cheers
M

A wonderful suggestion. I've often wondered why what Robert has done hasn't mobilized people. Start a blog - start another website - write a book that counters hers. Giving a bad review on Amazon is a good beginning.

 

[desertgal]

A wonderful suggestion. I've often wondered why what Robert has done hasn't mobilized people. Start a blog - start another website - write a book that counters hers. Giving a bad review on Amazon is a good beginning.

I think Robert has done such an excellent job in debunking Browne that, when it comes to starting another website, those that might be inspired to are wary about stepping on his toes.

 

[ExMinister]

I think Robert has done such an excellent job in debunking Browne that, when it comes to starting another website, those that might be inspired to are wary about stepping on his toes.

It's true. And something else - Robert is a neutral third party and he doesn't have a personal story to tell that could embarrass his family or others who were involved over many years. He also has the advantage of knowing a thing or two about creating and managing a web site, something I don't have the first clue about.

I've thought about starting a blog where ex-fans could come to vent or ask questions of an ex-minister, something with some of the information on Robert's site. Or somehow make it known that I am available to answer e-mails and questions. I even talked to Robert about that at one point. But for computer skills (beyond what I use in my own job, which are very job specific), I'd have to go to school, and at present I have a full-time job and two young children so even if I knew how to do it, I don't know where I'd find the time.

Robert has done an excellent job with this, better than I could ever have done - that I am sure of.

 

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

A wonderful suggestion. I've often wondered why what Robert has done hasn't mobilized people. Start a blog - start another website - write a book that counters hers. Giving a bad review on Amazon is a good beginning.

It sure mobilized one person - me. I'd long ago have started my own site, either devoted to her or to some other person, if I knew how. The only applicable skill I have is a very slight knowledge of computer graphics and I've never run a website before in my life. I wouldn't even know how to register the name or how to have one hosted.

 

[ExMinister]

It sure mobilized one person - me. I'd long ago have started my own site, either devoted to her or to some other person, if I knew how. The only applicable skill I have is a very slight knowledge of computer graphics and I've never run a website before in my life. I wouldn't even know how to register the name or how to have one hosted.

Yes, it definitely mobilized you! In fact, it mobilized me to help Robert too! That WAS something I was passionate about doing, and I will be just as enthusiastic once he's back to work on the site again. In fact, having him out of commission like this makes me feel a little lost; I was so used to having him there to send information to and share ideas with. Normally the post I made here would have been an e-mail to Robert first - and invariably he would write back saying he already knew all about it. He was almost always one step ahead of me! And I will say this: Writing the way he does is an ART! Just before he was hospitalized, we were collaborating on some material for the site, and I learned that presenting things Robert style is nowhere as easy as it might look!

 

[Moufflon]

And thanks for the idea. I'd probably have to go back through the book in more detail before I'd do something like that, though I'm not sure my blood pressure can stand it.

Yeah, I'm not sure I would wish that task on anybody! Remeber to strap on the full-body waders if you do decide to trudge through all that... uh, stuff.

A wonderful suggestion. I've often wondered why what Robert has done hasn't mobilized people. Start a blog - start another website - write a book that counters hers. Giving a bad review on Amazon is a good beginning.

Thanks!

I think Robert has done such an excellent job in debunking Browne that, when it comes to starting another website, those that might be inspired to are wary about stepping on his toes.

You're probably right. But it strikes me as a very odd position. Robert's not selling anything, or taking up a unique position; he's trying to get the word out. It's a campaign, and with a campaign, you want more and more people to spread the word. Other sites (etc) can't detract from Stop Syvia Browne; they add to more people knowing that SB is a fraud.

It sure mobilized one person - me. I'd long ago have started my own site, either devoted to her or to some other person, if I knew how. The only applicable skill I have is a very slight knowledge of computer graphics and I've never run a website before in my life. I wouldn't even know how to register the name or how to have one hosted.

Indeed. But, in terms of, say, a blog, I'd encourage you to check out something like WordPress or Blogger. You might be amazed to see how easy it is. You can have a respectable looking site, free, in about 10 seconds. It's extraordinary. If you can use these forums, you can probably get a blog.

And I will say this: Writing the way he does is an ART! Just before he was hospitalized, we were collaborating on some material for the site, and I learned that presenting things Robert style is nowhere as easy as it might look!

Absolutely. It's very very easy for me to sit here and make these recommendations, but following through is not to be done lightly... Working your way past the disgust, outrage and sheer irritation to write something that's more than just spluttering and retching noises must take a lot of time, restraint, and re-writes. Perhaps this forum can help in hammering out such things, as well.

 

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

Yes, it definitely mobilized you! In fact, it mobilized me to help Robert too! That WAS something I was passionate about doing, and I will be just as enthusiastic once he's back to work on the site again. In fact, having him out of commission like this makes me feel a little lost; I was so used to having him there to send information to and share ideas with. Normally the post I made here would have been an e-mail to Robert first - and invariably he would write back saying he already knew all about it. He was almost always one step ahead of me! And I will say this: Writing the way he does is an ART! Just before he was hospitalized, we were collaborating on some material for the site, and I learned that presenting things Robert style is nowhere as easy as it might look!

I know what you mean. This obviously isn't in any way comparable but I feel the same way when my favorite columnists, political commentators or film reviewers fall ill or go on vacation- more than a little lost.

I know what you mean about that, too. I had to work pretty hard to surprise Robert! You couldn't do it; he knew everything!

Absolutely. It's very very easy for me to sit here and make these recommendations, but following through is not to be done lightly... Working your way past the disgust, outrage and sheer irritation to write something that's more than just spluttering and retching noises must take a lot of time, restraint, and re-writes. Perhaps this forum can help in hammering out such things, as well.

That's true but, in a way, it's a good thing for you to be able to express your opinion, get the word out and make information public. It's an outlet for your anger and it makes you feel better to be able to do something and to actually see the fruits of your labor.

And, as Robert himself once said, with all the collaborators that he had, it often seemed like he was just the front man but was getting all the credit for everything.

 

[whatthebutlersaw]

A wonderful suggestion. I've often wondered why what Robert has done hasn't mobilized people. Start a blog - start another website - write a book that counters hers. Giving a bad review on Amazon is a good beginning.

I have toyed with the idea of starting a Swedish language blog that would concentrate on issues like this, but I have been putting it off thinking I need to learn more here at JREF before I undertake something like that.

But with RSL as role model I think I will get it started now. I am very different from RSL - I easily fly off the handle - but I really admire his style and I would like to try to emulate it. I suppose when you say "someone ought to", "someone" might as well be yourself. If I hold back, thinking that someone else would do it better, then it may not get done at all.

 

[Beeg Seestor]

I can't get over all the wonderfull things said about Robert on the forum! All of you brighten my day every time I read what you have to say about him. I can't wait for him to be able to read it all for himself!

Thank you!
Janie

 

[grayman]

I can't get over all the wonderfull things said about Robert on the forum! All of you brighten my day every time I read what you have to say about him. I can't wait for him to be able to read it all for himself!

Thank you!
Janie

We're looking forward to Robert reading these as well.

And please, come to TAM7 and introduce yourself.

 

[ExMinister]

We're looking forward to Robert reading these as well.

And please, come to TAM7 and introduce yourself.

Seconded!

Maybe I'll figure out a way to get to the next TAM myself, and hopefully get to meet Robert and Susan and family face to face for the first time, too. It would be a lot of fun to finally put faces to some of the names here.

 

[JPL]

I think Robert has done such an excellent job in debunking Browne that, when it comes to starting another website, those that might be inspired to are wary about stepping on his toes.

My brother would never consider it "stepping on his toes". I think he'd be flattered and appreciative that someone would carry the torch while he is down.

Robert has talked at family get together's about hoping others would join in the fight by going after other "psychics", so why not pitch in against SB? Anyone wishing to do so should carefully re-read the exchange with Browne's attorney and be sure not to set themselves, JREF, or Stop Sylvia Browne, or Robert up for any lawsuits.

I don't know how Amazon handles book reviews, but I think it would be hilarious to see several sceptical reviews on their site.

jim

 

[RSL's better half]

Ditto what my in-laws have said!

You all know, I assume, about Robert's plan for future sites? He would much rather be the editor and take articles from folks just like all of you. I fully intend to help him get started with this goal as soon as he is through rehab. As I said before, "Look out Sylvia, etc."

Moufflon, whatthebutlersaw, just do it! ExM, Eeney - check with your internet provider as well. I'm on MSN, and they actually provide space, I believe, to start a blog. Not much space, but it's a place to start. Take the advice Robert now needs to heed: baby steps! slow and steady wins the race!

Robert would be ecstatic with other voices crying out, making the info available to the vulnerable. I told someone recently, "My husband is a hero. He is stopping some very bad people from hurting other people." Anybody can do this. You just have to want to and you'll find a way. Robert picked up a few books to help himself along, as well. If you checked out his playing card website, then took a gander at StopKaz, and finally at SSB, you could see how much he's learned - all from reading books. Never been to a class.

He will support your efforts. That I guarantee!

Susan

 

[fishbait]

I don't know how Amazon handles book reviews, but I think it would be hilarious to see several sceptical reviews on their site.

jim

I see Amazon now allows customers to upload product video reviews. This should be a hoot.

 

[TruthBeTold]

I have a blog that I used for advertising and commenting on all of Robert's articles when they came out.

I would love to be able to blog about this thread if you all don't mind, especially ExMinister as your original post would be the meat of my article. Would that be okay?

Donna

p.s. I just wrote an entry yesterday with a imaginative evening with Sylvia Browne and her new boyfriend if you'd like to read it but make sure you do so on an empty stomach.
InHerThoughts
I have a seperate category there for all SB material if you're interested...

 

[Crundy]

Well, she's giving away a free reading-maybe that'll drum up business for her: http://www.spiritnow.com/


(Not sure if that is a new or an old site...checked the Wayback Machine, but it can find no cached pages for that address. Hmmm...)

The domain seems to have been around a while, and they have it registered for quite a few years:

Creation Date: 17-dec-1997
Expiration Date: 16-dec-2017

But looking a bit deeper seems to suggest they have snaffled an expired, established domain to ride off its previous pagerank:

(register.com whois)
Created on..............: Wed, Jan 23, 2008
Expires on..............: Sat, Dec 16, 2017
Record last updated on..: Fri, Jan 25, 2008

Registrant:
Preston Media, LLC
Preston Media, LLC
c/o Andrew Hyams 60 Walnut Street 4th Floor
Wellesley, MA 02481
US
Email: rubbdir5@aol.com

Perhaps this is an insurance policy for her? Drag people to the site using her as the magnet, and if she gets even further discredited then they can remove the references to her and feed off the traffic for people using the other psychics on the site?