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Susan McElwein Interview

Gravy said:
What made you change your mind?
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So then you're people are right it was an American Airliners plane?

I'm on the fence, I theorized it was flight 11 because Flight 11 flew around for a good 90 minutes after hitting the North Tower which tells me Flight 11 couldn't have hit the North Tower.

Apparently some of the JREF here have evidence that it was an American Airlines plane. I am most interested in seeing this evidence so I asked for it.

I high a funny feeling no one is going to post it though.........




And what have these people told you in the nine months since I gave you their contact information?

Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co
Shanksville, PA 15560
(814) 267-4737
Terry Schaffer, Fire Chief
Rick King, Assistant Chief

Somerset County Coroner's Office
555 Tayman Avenue, Somerset, PA 15501
(814) 445-6900
Wallace Miller, Coroner

Somerset County Emergency Services
100 East Union Street, Somerset, PA 15501
(814) 445-1515

WESTMORELAND COUNTY
DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
12 Court House Square
Greensburg, PA 15601
724-600-7300

Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency
Harrisburg, PA 17101
(717) 651-2001

Paul Sledzik (Led flight 93 DMORT investigation)
Curator, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology National Museum of Health and Medicine
202-782-2204 sledzik@email.afip.osd.mil

Disaster Mortuary Team Main office: 1-800-USA-NDMS, ext. 205
DMORT Region 3 office (includes Pennsylvania) 410-676-4600

Dr. Dennis C. Dirkmaat
Chief scientific advisor to Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller
Director, Applied Forensic Sciences Department
Mercyhurst College
501 E. 38th St.
Erie, PA 16546
dirkmaat@mercyhurst.edu
(814) 824-2105

Also:

Stoystown Volunteer Fire Company,
Central City Fire Department,
Berlin Fire Department,
Friedens Volunteer Fire Department,
Listie Volunteer Fire Company,
Somerset Volunteer Fire Department,
Somerset Ambulance Association,
Hooversville Volunteer Fire Department, and the
Hooversville Rescue Squad.
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I made an appoitment with Wally Miller to see the Indian Lake debris field and the body parts photographed there for starters....
 
Gravy said:
Of course, this one is also awesome, and pithy.

"Here's a fact : wingspan of Flight 93 = 40' "
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Well it must suck that the Flight 93 Ambassador at the Memorial says the crater was officially 30'x20'........We asked her a few questions about that. It bothered her, she didn't know what to say and the group of people that were listening became real interested in us....but you'll see that soon enough!

Wow, Gravy imagine that. Instead of discussing this new evidence you go instantly into the "attempt to discredit" mode. Wonder why?
 
Gravy said:
And who can forget this blast from the past?

September, 2006 – TC329 starts a thread at LC insisting that flight 93 was shot down:




January, 2007: Did I say shot down in Shanksville? That was the liquor talking:
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Well I talked off the record with some Johnstown ATC. Why don't you call them and see what they have to say to you about 9/11 & Flight 93 Gravy? Oh wait, they're all under gag orders.

Westmoreland County 911 is also under gag orders.

Indian Lake residents (south of the crater) made numerous 911 calls about a low flying plane "breaking apart above their homes". Even Jim Stop seen it while fishing in the lake.

And then there was a 3rd debris field in New Baltimore. Hole secion of the woods cornered off. No media was allowed anywhere near....must have been because of all the "paper" there from the crash. Locals tell a different story though.....


So why drive this off topic Mark?

Are you afraid to address Susan's account? I think so.
 
What kind of lame, pathetic F&*K goes to a place like the UA93 Memorial, and starts pissing on the graves...So did you mention the fake phone calls, did you laugh at the Mark Bingham line, or was that too much, so you just pushed your silly bit of not so mean twoof?

TAM
 
T.A.M. said:
What kind of lame, pathetic F&*K goes to a place like the UA93 Memorial, and starts pissing on the graves...So did you mention the fake phone calls, did you laugh at the Mark Bingham line, or was that too much, so you just pushed your silly bit of not so mean twoof?

TAM
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History will show it's people as yourself who pissed all over the graves of the 9/11 victims.

"Flight 93" was shot down. Part of it ended up in Shanksville, part of it in Indian Lake, & part of it in New Baltimore.

Edward Felt was on board and made a call to Westmoreland County 911 saying he was in the bathroom, there had been some type of explosion on the plane, & there was white smoke filling the plane from it.

Westmoreland County 911 dispatchers are not allowed to talk about it.

There was 2 fighter jets & 1 UAV at the scene at the exact time as well.

Johnstown Air Traffic Control is not allowed to talk about it.

And the residents who witnessed the events are not lying and making this up......
 
ref said:
Says who?
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When an official says "Go away little CTer, we don't have the time nor the inclination to discuss your repugnant fantasies" this is perceived by the CTer as "We're not allowed to talk about it (sigh)"
 
TC329 said:
History will show it's people as yourself who pissed all over the graves of the 9/11 victims.

"Flight 93" was shot down. Part of it ended up in Shanksville, part of it in Indian Lake, & part of it in New Baltimore.

Edward Felt was on board and made a call to Westmoreland County 911 saying he was in the bathroom, there had been some type of explosion on the plane, & there was white smoke filling the plane from it.

Westmoreland County 911 dispatchers are not allowed to talk about it.

There was 2 fighter jets & 1 UAV at the scene at the exact time as well.

Johnstown Air Traffic Control is not allowed to talk about it.

And the residents who witnessed the events are not lying and making this up......
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Because people, GROWN UPS, with REAL LIVES, and REAL JOBS, do not want to give you fodder to connect them with your STUPID FANTASIES, does not mean THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

GOT IT?

TAM:mad:
 
Only a few pieces of paper from the plane was found in New Baltimore. Why do you continue to act as if massive chunks of debris were found there?
 
TC:

If you came to me and asked me any details about the medical history of a patient of mine, I would not be able to tell you...I would NOT be allowed to talk about it...so is that a conspiracy???

TAM:)
 
TC329 said:
"Flight 93" was shot down. Part of it ended up in Shanksville, part of it in Indian Lake, & part of it in New Baltimore.
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So I take it you're off the fence again?


You don't hear from the families of the plane victims because there was really only a small amount of people who died and they all died on the plane shot down in PA. The rest were CIA agents(think Northwoods).
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Why would the CIA kill their own agents? Did they have a lot of suicidal agents willing to volunteer for such an assignment?
 
T.A.M. said:
Because people, GROWN UPS, with REAL LIVES, and REAL JOBS, do not want to give you fodder to connect them with your STUPID FANTASIES, does not mean THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

GOT IT?

TAM:mad:
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ABC News


According to The Associated Press, the man told officials, "We are being hijacked, we are being hijacked!"


Emergency dispatcher Glenn Cramer said the man on board reported the plane "was going down. He heard some sort of explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane and we lost contact with him."
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You're a joke.



GOT IT?



DOM
 
T.A.M. said:
TC:

If you came to me and asked me any details about the medical history of a patient of mine, I would not be able to tell you...I would NOT be allowed to talk about it...so is that a conspiracy???

TAM:)
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911 Dispatchers are not routinely put under gag orders concerning 911 calls.
ATC is not routinely put under gag orders when there is a plane crash.

If you have some sort of proof this is a common practice please present it.

You are comparing apples & oranges and you know it.
 
TC why are you posting here?

Why have you not passed on all your evidence the appropriate authorities?

Why are you with holding evidence?
 
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stateofgrace said:
TC why are you posting here?

Why have you not passed on all you evidence the appropriate authorities?

Why are you with holding evidence?
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You have no idea what I am doing so please stop being ignorant.

This topic was started here, it seemed appropriate that someone who has spent nearly a year talking to and visiting eyewitnesses comment on it.
 
TC329 said:
You have no idea what I am doing so please stop being ignorant.

This topic was started here, it seemed appropriate that someone who has spent nearly a year talking to and visiting eyewitnesses comment on it.
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Oh I see, so you have passed on your evidence to the authorities?
 
stateofgrace said:
Oh I see, so you have passed on your evidence to the authorities?
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Well now you know the answer to that...

The authorities are the baddies...remember.

TC:

Please show me another Plane hijacking and crash, that was subsequently part of an FBI CRIMINAL investigation, where the ATCers were allowed to freely talk with people about the details of the events while that investigation was going on.

Thanks

TAM:)
 
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