Survival

MRC_Hans said:
?? So what? Why do you want to know this in such detail? Does it matter at all?

Since cancer cells are often growing much faster than other cells, it is possible that by starving a patient, the cancer cells may start dying a little faster than the rest of the patient. I don't think there is much research in that field, however.

Hans
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Thanks. That is very very important for me to know. Since long and by looking at natural practices of animal & birds(not humans:)), I was thinking that can it be possible if a cancer patient starve just to pre death level, can he be cured?
 
MRC_Hans said:
Well, why don't you read some literature and find out? Why must we do your homework?

Hans
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It is not mentioned in quotes I posted. However I shall try to check it at other sites on google search--if you don't want to tell.
 
Kumar said:
Thanks. That is very very important for me to know. Since long and by looking at natural practices of animal & birds(not humans:)), I was thinking that can it be possible if a cancer patient starve just to pre death level, can he be cured?
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NO!
 
Kumar said:
Thanks. That is very very important for me to know. Since long and by looking at natural practices of animal & birds(not humans:)), I was thinking that can it be possible if a cancer patient starve just to pre death level, can he be cured?
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Not likely. The cancer cells will probably stop growing, but by the time they start dying, the patient will be beyond salvation. You don't die of starvation in a moment. It takes days, during which internal organs take more and more damage and start to shut down. By the time you cancer may have died, you will be past the point of no return.

Hans
 
Kumar said:
Thanks. I don't know clearly if you or other member has told me about it;-

Do cancer cells use signaling molecule for Quorum sensing mechnism?
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As far as I know Quorum sensing is a mechanism used by actual single celled organisms and even then its not sure if all of them use it. It is afaik not part of the signalling pathways of multicellular organisms.

But if you want to know for sure, search pubmed using quorum sensing in higher eukaryotes or similar request
 
Kumar said:
It is not mentioned in quotes I posted. However I shall try to check it at other sites on google search--if you don't want to tell.
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Kumar, I'm not omniscient. If I need to know something, I read up on it. What you are doing is asking us to read up, and then tell you about it. Do your own home-work.

Hans
 
Kumar said:
...Since long and by looking at natural practices of animal & birds(not humans:)), I was thinking that can it be possible if a cancer patient starve just to pre death level, can he be cured?
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While I hesitate to ask, what are these practices by birds and animals to cure themselves? I'm guessing that is what you are implying.
 
Kumar said:
Are bombs good? Are many medicine good on ultimate?
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Bombs are good when dropped on people who are trying to hurt you.

Some medicines are risky when taken when you aren't ill...try a course of chemo someday...but anything that stops a disease and keeps you alive is good.

ETA: Kumar: Go to a University Bookshop. Buy a biology textbook in your own language. Read it from cover to cover. Take notes. Do the quizzes at the end of each chapter. Then read it again. Then come back and talk to us.

This thread will go nowhere because you are trying to understand and talk about Degree level concepts without having passed your Biology GCSE.
 
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Kumar said:
Looks ok as brain dead people still live & also do many activities.
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Some of them post on the internet.

IANAD, but I really think Kumar is asking questions that are beyong what one can reasonably expect to have usefully answered on an internet forum. Could anyone recommend some texts that would help Kumar?

Oh crap, that's the set up for about a thousand jokes, isn't it?
 
MRC_Hans said:
Not likely. The cancer cells will probably stop growing, but by the time they start dying, the patient will be beyond salvation. You don't die of starvation in a moment. It takes days, during which internal organs take more and more damage and start to shut down. By the time you cancer may have died, you will be past the point of no return.

Hans
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Ok, what about fasting upto pre-permanent/serous damage level?
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
As far as I know Quorum sensing is a mechanism used by actual single celled organisms and even then its not sure if all of them use it. It is afaik not part of the signalling pathways of multicellular organisms.

But if you want to know for sure, search pubmed using quorum sensing in higher eukaryotes or similar request
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Can we take a cancer cell as multicellular organisms for this purpose?
 
MRC_Hans said:
Kumar, I'm not omniscient. If I need to know something, I read up on it. What you are doing is asking us to read up, and then tell you about it. Do your own home-work.

Hans
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When I do all these brainstorming or learnings, obiously I am also reading, thinking & wrighting a lot esp. whatever with in my capacity. Otherwise how can?
 
Kumar said:
Can we take a cancer cell as multicellular organisms for this purpose?
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Cells in single- and multicelled organisms are fundamentally different. If you take a single cell out from a multicelled organism, and keep it alive, it is still a 'multicell cell'. This goes for cancer cells as well.

Hans
 
EHocking said:
While I hesitate to ask, what are these practices by birds and animals to cure themselves? I'm guessing that is what you are implying.
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I have seen that they discontinue or reduce eating food & even drinking water for some time, take rest(dead like) in a dark, hidden & cool corner and at many time they become healthy. They don't take inspite we force. I am not sure if it is common.
 
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