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Surface debacle

SezMe said:
Please don't do that. Kids get too much TV/computer exposure already. Get some Legos or dolls or costumes or SOMETHING other than a screen.
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No problem. She has Lego, and dolls and My Little Pony toys at home. When she comes to our place, which is only about once a week, she gets to see an hour of kids movies after she has eaten her dinner.
 
anglolawyer said:
How long does it take for RSI to set in? I have been dragging dropping for 19 years with no problems yet.
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Depends on many factors. RSI is a huge issue. See this for example

http://www.bupa.co.uk/business/employer-health-hub/physical-health/rsi
Repetitive strain injury (RSI) is also known as work-related upper limb disorder. It can be a huge drain on your company’s productivity. Musculoskeletal problems, including RSI, are the biggest cause of ill health and sickness absence among staff in the UK,1 where they affect an estimated one million people.
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Police departments tend to be a little behind the times regarding computerization. When we made the jump to computerized report writing and processing, a number of our older guys had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the monitor....
All of our new hires have no problem whatever.
Working at a big, tech-savvy university should be a boon.... But in our case it doesn't seem to be.
We just got around to upgrading our report-writing PCs to Windows 7, and it took two weeks to teach everyone not to turn the thing off rather than just logging out....
When something goes wrong, we call the university's IT guys, and it seems that they assign us a different IT intern every few months, so they always start from scratch.

We installed laptops in the patrol cars several years ago, with no clear idea as to what they would be used for other than doing record checks and license plates via the regional REGIS service.
However, our software tended not to mesh up with the rather extensive firewall at REGIS so it's been problematic at best.
Now, we're getting the report-writing program installed in the laptops, which requires more firewall jiggering as the server for ARMS is also protected (as you might imagine) by complex firewalls.


Me, I imagine I'm fairly typical. I use my PC at home for some gaming, photo and video work, entertainment (Netflix and such) storing and listening to music....
But I have an iPad as well, and that's my mobile entertainment platform. I use it for internet surfing at work (Thou Shalt NoT Surf On The Department Laptop!) as well as carrying around books and listening to podcasts of The World on my commute and all that.
 
Yikes, they spent a billion dollars advertising Surface/Win8.

Show the world our mighty hidey-ho face
As we go sliding down the ladder

- Steel Dan, Everything Must Go​
 
a_unique_person said:
The days of the consumer PC are over. People are happy with Tablets and smartphones. The high end tech savvy person and enterprising hobbyist will still want a PC, there aren't that many people like that out there. Most corporate PCs act as terminal servers for a mainframe application, as well as an email reader.
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The thin client idea is a possibility, Chrome Books are an option we are investing in for our students (K-12), but I think many corporations will have issues with the portability of work devices walking out the door. PC sales are way down, but I am not sure which way corporations will go.
 
The only people I know who use the Microsoft Surface are trapped under a dome.
 
Aepervius said:
So.... A solution in search of a problem ?

Or maybe, alternatively, people using PC for productivity, quite clearly know what they want, and are pissed that microsoft not only do not deliver it, but also make their work more difficult out of the financial wish to get a walled garden like apple. We are not blind you know : what MS want is not to make the OS user happy, but MS stockholder happy.
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They could have produced a tablet interface and put it on the Surface in a bid for a successful "walled garden" product.

Instead they decided to put the tablet interface front and center on every new computer, layered over the traditional interface. This incurred the resentment of users who don't want the tablet interface. It also fragmented the market for those who do, such that Surface was competing with OEM offerings that featured the same interface.

It amounts to stupidity on an epic scale, and unfortunately, because it's MS, we don't have the luxury of ignoring it because we still rely on their OS.
 
Dancing David said:
The thin client idea is a possibility, Chrome Books are an option we are investing in for our students (K-12), but I think many corporations will have issues with the portability of work devices walking out the door. PC sales are way down, but I am not sure which way corporations will go.
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We've* experimented with Citrix virtual desktops and servers and they're okay for large numbers of people with basically identical use cases. There are a few issues to do with managing the estate. Plus it always feels a bit lagging somehow. Worse than say using mstsc to a win server or Hummingbird to unix servers.


*major bank.
 
SezMe said:
And? That is exactly what a for-profit corporation is supposed to do.
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BUT if they annoy the OS user sufficiently (as they have done with mediocre versions of phones and tablets and the black hole level suck of Win 8) what is happening now is what should happen - it hits the MS investor in the pocket. Very difficult to drag down customers but make money for investors.
 
anglolawyer said:
Well, I hope Microsoft bombs and quick. Due to a change at work I am switching from the Mac environment to Windows and boy does it suck.
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What don't you like? I've used both and it seems largely a toss-up. I do use Windows for my daily work, so perhaps that has skewed my view.

~~ Paul
 
Wudang said:
We've* experimented with Citrix virtual desktops and servers and they're okay for large numbers of people with basically identical use cases. There are a few issues to do with managing the estate. Plus it always feels a bit lagging somehow. Worse than say using mstsc to a win server or Hummingbird to unix servers.


*major bank.
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I have been introduced to Citrix in the last few weeks and now pray daily that someone will blow my brains out. It spends a lot of time not working.
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
What don't you like? I've used both and it seems largely a toss-up. I do use Windows for my daily work, so perhaps that has skewed my view.

~~ Paul
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It would be easier to say what I do like ........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
 
Dancing David said:
I haven't heard Windows 8 was a dog, I have not used it but many people I know do and they are very happy. I only know one Surface user.
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I know several surface users and they all love them.

Surface's biggest issue was price. It was a new product that offered no special advantage outside the keyboard, but lacked the market support in apps, peripherals, or subsidised 3g/4g telco subscription purchasing.

They then sold it without the keyboard and for the same price (or more) than competitors. I love Windows 8, but even I didn't buy a Surface, I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1.

I would have bought a Surface Pro if it had tablet-like battery life, but it doesn't.

If they'd brought the Surface out, undercut the competition on price and sold it with they keyboard covers they would have had a hit.

None of this wasn't obvious before the launch, so only FSM knows what they were thinking.
 
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