Supreme Court Health Care Decision Thread

[BenBurch]

Struck down mandate.

OK, time to pack the *********** court. Roosevelt had the right idea.

 

[JamesDillon]

Struck down mandate.

OK, time to pack the *********** court. Roosevelt had the right idea.

Where are you getting your information? Scotusblog says it was upheld.

 

[Brown]

SCOTUSblog says mandate IS constitutional.

 

[Brown]

Struck down mandate.

OK, time to pack the *********** court. Roosevelt had the right idea.

WHAT DID I JUST SAY about spouting off before you know what's going on?? (Insert smiley guy here.)

 

[Peephole]

I guess there's still hope for the US after all.


And CNN is a *********** joke lol.

Suck it repubs!

 

[Tony]

Wait. I JUST heard on NPR (Dianne Reim show) that the individual mandate was struck down.

 

[Newtons Bit]

CNN front page says that the Mandate is struck down.

 

[JamesDillon]

Wait. I JUST heard on NPR (Dianne Reim show) that the individual mandate was struck down.

Scotusblog is quoting from the opinion saying it was upheld. Unless they're making up quotes, NPR has got to be wrong.

 

[Peephole]

It's been upheld 6-3. Roberts voted with the left.

 

[AdMan]

CNN front page says that the Mandate is struck down.

Not any more:

Correction: The Supreme Court backs all parts of President Obama’s signature health care law.

 

[Newtons Bit]

Not any more:

wow, way to go CNN.

 

[bynmdsue]

The mandate can't be justified under the commerce Clause, but survives as a tax.

 

[Brown]

I think there might be some confusion. Huffington Post reports:
ObamaCare Lives
Star Of 'My Three Sons' Dies

So it seems pretty certain that someone or something lived today, and someone or something died. And in other news, a dog bit a man today ....

As of this writing, a link to the Health Care opinion is not available at the Supreme Court web site (and the link to the Stolen Honor case doesn't work). Wow. The Supreme Court is SWAMPED. That's a news story right threre.

 

[Neally]

And they'll be "forced" to accept a bunch of new customers if the mandate is allowed to stand.

Right and those new customers will be charged to be on the policy . Stuff isn't free.

But as I pointed out, they're also not allowed to jack up premiums for no reason whatsoever, as they could have in the past.

Well then, the increases as shown can't be due to the evil insurance companies jacking up their profits can they?

No, they put that portion of the bar graph in a different color and said this is how much of the premium they attribute to changes due to the ACA. This is not evidence that it's so.

Look, if your going to ask for evidence, then just dishonestly hand wave it away, essentially saying "it's a lie", why do you even bother asking for evidence?The onus is now on you to demonstrate otherwise.

Oh--well, that's a reasonable response to a request for evidence to support an unsubstantiated claim.

Why bother, you'll just hand wave it away.

The insurance company also makes profits (as do insurance agents), and they also spend a boatload of money on marketing. Where do you think *that* money comes from?

You didn't address the fact that the when you add new coverages, that naturally adds costs to the policy.

Yes, calling the reasonable standards of minimum essential coverage (so that people who think they are insured are actually insured) "goodies" is just so much spin. And the "many of us don't want or need" argument only works if you treat our national health care crisis from a rugged individualist point of view.

LOL. The additional stuff that has been added to my policy could have been added by me if I wanted it. I don't want it or need it.

I am against the health care law but mine had been going up dramatically long before Barack Obama became a household name.

Of course, and Obamacare does nothing to change that. In fact it has made it worse as I have shown.

Exactly. And the idea that premiums will drop if the ACA is struck down today is silly.

Perhaps you can explain how to magically create other free stuff?

 

[eeyore1954]

The mandate can't be justified under the commerce Clause, but survives as a tax.

In my opinion that was the problem all along. President Obama promised no new taxes for under 250,000 so instead of calling it a tax...

 

[Unabogie]

Yes!!!

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Without having read the opinion yet, I can't help but conclude at first glance that the court is full of six retards who can't read.

It cannot be a constitutional tax. It's not uniform as required for an excise, it's not a tax on income as required for an income tax, and it's not based on population as required for a direct tax.

FU, Supreme Court.

 

[ZirconBlue]

Without having read the opinion yet, I can't help but conclude at first glance that the court is full of six retards who can't read.

Not that you're biased or anything.

 

[pgwenthold]

I don't read SCOTUS decisions. I wait for Brown to explain them to me.

 

[ZirconBlue]

I don't read SCOTUS decisions. I wait for Brown to explain them to me.

If I'm honest, me too.