Supporting Obama? No treats for you!

[Lonewulf]

Seems like pretty shaky ground to me.

It's not "serious", like actually threatening or bribing someone old enough to actually vote, and I think the overall effect will be negligible (a lot of angry parents, but no one actually changing their minds).

Still, this does pretty much spit in the face of the entire voting process.

It also seems to be a way to try to sidestep the secret ballot. Get the kids to rat out on the parents... if it's a small enough town, or close enough neighbors, you can get names of people who voted for Obama. This seems like a dangerous slope to be on. I hope people don't start sliding.

That being said, I do have to admit that this seems like a rather minor case (in spite of my explosion recently regarding fliers, I'm calm now). After all, with candy, people are expected (but not required) to hand out candy to children. Withholding candy from some children for arbitrary reasons but giving some to others is rather asshatish (I coined a new adjective!), but a bit different than directly handing over cash to someone above the voting age for the same thing, or giving them *expensive* presents.

Still, I don't like it one bit. The whole thing smacks of just plain wrong, and I can't tell if it's close enough to legal level to warrant thinking about.

 

[bozothedeathmachine]

As a parent, I think it's deserving of a nice flaming bag of dog poop.

 

[ponderingturtle]

She has the right to give or not give away candy as she chooses.

I have the right to think she's a horse's for the way she makes that decision.

Of course children need to understand that adults are capricious beings who will take their candy away for what ever reasons they decide, with out respect to being fair.

This is an important lesson all children need to learn.

 

[Tricky]

I hope they TP'd her house.

As a parent, I think it's deserving of a nice flaming bag of dog poop.

Eggs would be better. You gotta know how to do those Halloween pranks right!

You people are so old fashioned. There is only one way to settle this. The American Way. Sue her.

 

[bozothedeathmachine]

You people are so old fashioned. There is only one way to settle this. The American Way. Sue her.

That's not in the spirit of Halloween. Unless it's changed to "Litigation or Treat", which just doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely.

 

[boloboffin]

The same person was on a Conan O'Brian piece by Triumph the Insult Comic Dog. She was sloppy drunk, bragging about having given blood that day during the Republican convention. I guess national exposure (hehe) went to her head.

As soon as I find the link again, I will provide.

 

[Upchurch]

Ah, but does she? Or does this constitute electoral bribery?

Only when 9 year olds start voting.

 

[Cicero]

You people are so old fashioned. There is only one way to settle this. The American Way. Sue her.

When it comes to litigation lawyers, every day in court is Halloween for the practitioners of Vlad the Impaler.

 

[Meadmaker]

That's not in the spirit of Halloween. Unless it's changed to "Litigation or Treat", which just doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely.

Hmmm... We the undersigned, consisting of costumed young people (henceforth known as "the children") agree that for the fee of not less than one piece of candy, agree that we will not place any toilet paper (TP) in trees, bushes, shrubs, or gutters located on the property at........

This agreement is binding only on the undersigned children, and is not affected, nor does represent, any other children who may or may not wish to enter into any similar agreement.

This contract represents the sole legal agreement between the children and the property owner at aforementioned address, and expires at sundown on the next 31st day of October after it is entered into.


I don't know. It seems kind of complicated.

 

[Dr Adequate]

Only when 9 year olds start voting.

The relevant electoral laws are bafflingly hard to find, but I don't think they'd leave that big a loophole.

This partisan dispenser of jellybeans deserves the full penalty of the law.

 

[gdnp]

You people are so old fashioned. There is only one way to settle this. The American Way. Sue her.

Lawsuits are so last century.

I say we give her a much deserved 15 minutes of shame on the internet, to be archived for all posterity so that anyone who googles her name will know what a nasty she is.

 

[Tricky]

Hmmm... We the undersigned, consisting of costumed young people (henceforth known as "the children") agree that for the fee of not less than one piece of candy, agree that we will not place any toilet paper (TP) in trees, bushes, shrubs, or gutters located on the property at........

This agreement is binding only on the undersigned children, and is not affected, nor does represent, any other children who may or may not wish to enter into any similar agreement.

This contract represents the sole legal agreement between the children and the property owner at aforementioned address, and expires at sundown on the next 31st day of October after it is entered into.


I don't know. It seems kind of complicated.

Oh, you're talking about a pre-tricktual agreement. I was referring to some ice-cream-truck chaser who gets the kids to claim that they were emotionally damaged.

If you're trying for the pre-emptive strike, it should be more like selling her protection.

Kid: (Dressed in leather and thumping a roll of Charmin agains his palm): -- You'se gotta nice house here, babe. You'se wouldn't want anything to happen to it, would you'se?

 

[Darth Rotor]

I think she doesn't understand the concept behind "trick or treat".

My take on the whole issue is "Get the EFF off of my property."

If she doesn't treat the kids, you can bet something's going to happen involving pranksters. Enough of them get turned away, and she's not going to have a nice time the next few days. :3

Am I to understand that you approve of bullying and extortion, even if the perps be minors?

 

[geni]

I could imagine them doing it, too...

War on Christmas, Christmas becomes hostage. News at 11.

Obama replaces it with hopemass.

 

[Lonewulf]

My take on the whole issue is "Get the EFF off of my property."

That's nice. I couldn't care less what you think, though.

Am I to understand that you approve of bullying and extortion, even if the perps be minors?

She's certainly not preventing it with her behavior, and targeting children for something they have no control over seems just as discriminatory as choosing based on the color of their skin (and yes, I believe that racists should have their house TPed; I'll stick with that opinion, thank you very much, to the day I die). Not to mention I don't consider her own behavior to be much better than egg-throwing or TPing. In fact, as she's an adult, I do believe that she should know better.

 

[geni]

Am I to understand that you approve of bullying and extortion, even if the perps be minors?

That is what trick or treating is but I understand it is a significant american tradition.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

My question is how did she know who to give treats to or not?

Did she quiz them at the door?

 

[Darth Rotor]

That's nice. I couldn't care less what you think, though.

?? Who peed in your schnitzel and spaetzle this evening?

She's certainly not preventing it by being a bitch. Not to mention I don't consider her own behavior to be much better than egg-throwing or TPing. In fact, as she's an adult, I do believe that she should know better.

Then how do you feel about the parents of the children in the story, who used their kids as bait to troll for a bitchy old broad? Nice use and abuse of the kids, eh?

 

[Lonewulf]

??

I'm not sure how to better explain it.

Then how do you feel about the parents of the children in the story, who used their kids as bait to troll for a bitchy old broad? Nice use and abuse of the kids, eh?

What are you talking about?

If a black man tours a street, "trolling" for police officers, and gets soundly beaten, this does not make the crime of the police brutality magically better behavior. In fact, it's a good way to demonstrate the disgusting behavior that actually exists.

And this even assumes that the children were being used as "bait" for "trolling". I'd like to see some evidence from you that this is the case, or are you merely speculating?

You didn't used to be like this, Darth.

 

[jj]

I think this is a good, object lesson in just what kind of people are presently running the republican party.

ETA: Property crimes are not excused by the fact this person is, well, unpleasant.