Suffragette City

[E.J.Armstrong]

originally posted by zenith-nadir
I started a thread about Saudi Arabia not Islam. The subject was about a 37-year-old architect and mother of two not Islam. Then you brought up Israel in some bizzare derail which ironically has nothing to do with Islam, Saudi Arabia or a 37-year-old architect and mother of two.

End of story.

Unfortunately you don't seem to have read my post. I also mentioned Muslim countries. Saudi Arabia is predominantly a Muslim country. I assumed that when you started this thread one of the areas of relevance was women's rights in the Middle East in general. It appears that wasn't your intention because when I posted the words of the head of a non-sectarian body from a nearby country you made this statement.

' TRANSLATION: "Saudia Arabia has never had a woman in recorded history running for government...ya...whatever...now back to the eeeeeeevil jews!"'


despite the simple fact that the organisation she represents was neither uni-religious or evil.

 

[E.J.Armstrong]

originally posted by Rob Lister
Not quite the 'end of story'. EJA successfully derailed the thread and made it about Israel. He is talented. There is nothing you can do now to bring it back on track.

That is an interesting analysis given the final paragraph of your post.

What I don't understand about EJA regard his motive for doing this. This was an interesting topic. Why did he feel he needed to derail it?

Unfortunately the presumption behind the question is erroneous. It seems that zenith-nadir was not interested in the wider issue of women's rights in the Middle East as his response to the words of another Middle Eastern woman seems to suggest.

Anyway, back to the original topic, this is where it starts. If women there really get the right to both run for office (without being killed) and vote (without having their husbands present in the booth with them) then you'll see a real cultural change there for the better. Heck, being able to run for office isn't nearly as important as being able to vote. Still, it's going to take at least a hundred years before they can catch up to western liberalism.

Perhaps.

Should western countries such as the UK and the USA promote womens' right in Saudi Arabia or should we just carry on supporting the people who preside over this lack of western liberal values and wait for the one hundred years to pass.

 

[Shane Costello]

Originally posted by EJ Armstrong:
I would love it if the male bastions in the arab countries such as France, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc were more representative of their populations. I suspect that they would be very much better places than they are now.

Like the UK after 11 years of Mrs T? Couldn't agree more.

BTW since when has France been an Arab country? I'd heard that the ethnic birthrate there was on the up, but never figured it was happening that fast.

 

[E.J.Armstrong]

originally posted by Shane Costello
Like the UK after 11 years of Mrs T? Couldn't agree more.

BTW since when has France been an Arab country? I'd heard that the ethnic birthrate there was on the up, but never figured it was happening that fast.

Spot on. We are more representative now than we were then. I voted for a woman in an all women's candidate list from the party of my choice. We still have some way to go though. That's one of the reasons I mentioned women all around the world.

You got me fair and square. France is not an Arab country. No excuses. It's a fair cop.