Success! Another former truther recants!

And that's precisely why the Truth Movement has not accomplished anything in 10 years, and never will. You spend all of your time on the Internet trying to "win" arguments. How much closer to a new investigation has that brought you?

Maybe you should be presenting your well-crafted arguments and irrefutable evidence to your Congressman, DA, and sheriff, instead of to random strangers on the Internet.

Nah..we aim at the hearts and minds of the people. After all they were the ones that were decieved on 9.11,
 
Nah..we aim at the hearts and minds of the people. After all they were the ones that were decieved on 9.11,

That's alot of crap, we have all seen how 911 kooks refer to everyone as shills, sheeple, agents, asleep, in love with the gov't, and even worse. Some even say they want to execute us for not believing in them...

You're only after hearts and minds in the sense of control, your cult wants to control hearts and minds, adding them to your cult, and turning them into brainwashed fools, programmed to go out and recruit.
 
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Remember the "LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT IS GONNA CHANGE TEH WORLD, BEDUNKERS LOLZ" nonsense?

Yeah. I also remember:
  • the April Gallop lawsuit is gonna change the world
  • the Sibel Edmonds interview is gonna change the world
  • the NYCCAN petition is gonna change the world
  • the Building 7 campaign is gonna change the world
  • the Bentham journals peer-reviewed paper is gonna change the world
And so on and so forth.
 
You mean a purge like in the French Revolution ? The American French Revolution. That might be fitting.

Yeah, all the revolutionaries ended up on the Guillotine and the country was taken over by megalomaniac military dictator who lead the country to utter ruin (and worse, defeat by the British!) from which it never really recovered.

Do you want that for America? :jaw-dropp
 
Nah..we aim at the hearts and minds of the people. After all they were the ones that were decieved on 9.11,


Oh Bill, by the way do you concede that the Winter garden was not destroyed and that columns do lie all the way out to that point? Yes or no will do.

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Yeah, all the revolutionaries ended up on the Guillotine and the country was taken over by megalomaniac military dictator who lead the country to utter ruin (and worse, defeat by the British!) from which it never really recovered.

Do you want that for America? :jaw-dropp


If Truthers had their way they'd make the Stalin-era Soviet Union look like summer camp by comparison.
 
If Truthers had their way they'd make the Stalin-era Soviet Union look like summer camp by comparison.

Soviet summer camp? Sounds like the title of a late 70's B reel porno flick training film.
 
A few months ago, I made a bet with a truther. I bet $1,000 that there wouldn't be 10,000 truthers at the GZ & DC memorials demanding a new investigation. He took readily...

Last week, I offered to make it $3,000 for 5,000 truthers. He declined. He called me from NYC this morning & conceded the bet. Though I give him props for actually making the trip to GZ. I can't help but laugh at how disillusioned he was at the low turnout.

Ah well, 2 good charities will be getting donations.

Will he really pay up?
 
Oh Bill, by the way do you concede that the Winter garden was not destroyed and that columns do lie all the way out to that point? Yes or no will do.

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Well I swould like to kmow if that is the wreckage of WTC1 or WTC2 first. If it was WTC2 then I can well imagine that the tilting part may have fallen over that way when it hit the ground.
 
Truthers still exist?

Remember the "LOOSE CHANGE FINAL CUT IS GONNA CHANGE TEH WORLD, BEDUNKERS LOLZ" nonsense?

Good times. I've turned a great deal many people I know who may have nibbled at the apple simply by pointing them to Gravy's indispensable site and telling them to give it an honest look:

http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/

:th:

A few months ago, I made a bet with a truther. I bet $1,000 that there wouldn't be 10,000 truthers at the GZ & DC memorials demanding a new investigation. He took readily...

Last week, I offered to make it $3,000 for 5,000 truthers. He declined. He called me from NYC this morning & conceded the bet. Though I give him props for actually making the trip to GZ. I can't help but laugh at how disillusioned he was at the low turnout.

Ah well, 2 good charities will be getting donations.

:D :thumbsup:
 
Well, in the same week this guy contacted me about his change of mind (he thanked me today for the encouragement), I discovered that Dylan Avery - who was, in 2006 arguably one of the most influential young truthers - has officially given up the idea that the Bush administration was behind the attacks.

That's big news, and very bad news, for the 9/11 Truth movement. The hard evidence suggests that the debunking (or, for Chris Mohr, 'rebuttal') efforts are paying off. Sure, I get a lot of hardcore truthers who spit venom on my channel, but I get a lot of supportive visitors as well.

And here at the JREF 9/11 Conspiracy subforum, true skeptics (who can think critically, that is) outnumber the 9/11 Truther-myth believers by a wide margin. So 9/11 Truth is failing miserably at convincing skeptics of its claims.

I think if you look at the arcs of Heiwa, Tony Szamboti, Major_Tom, Niels Harrit and Steven Jones on this forum, they have utterly failed to demonstrate that a controlled demolition took down the WTC buildings.

The Harrit/Jones paper, in particular, has had ZERO impact on the engineering profession or the scientific community. It just is that irrelevant to the scientific discussion of the collapses, which has frankly moved on and accepted the NIST recommendations by and large.

ozeco recommends changing my reference from 'truther' to 'troll'. I'm happy to do that, and heartily agree that the only people left 'arguing' for 9/11 Truth are essentially trolls, unable to present any new information.

Yesterday marked 10 years of failure for the malicious myths of 9/11 Truth, and firm evidence that science and reason are overwhelming this cult movement, as it should be.

Lol
 
When I unplug my Internet connection, the Truth Movement completely disappears.

to my eye, they seem to be doing an adequate job completely disappearing *without* unplugging my internet connection..
 
Not according to Mike Rudin of the BBC who knows as much about the Truth Movement as anybody does. He said on 'Today' the Flagship BBC current affairs program that the Truth Movement is growing.


That's just the bloat stage of decomposition...
 

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