Merged Studying Sharma's equation on Linear Field Equations

[Wowbagger]

Singularitarian,
You never addressed my concerns, yet.

Can you propose some experiments to demonstrate you are correct, and everyone else, here, is wrong?

Can you at least tell us some new and noteworthy findings Sharma's ideas would predict, that mainstream physics would not be able to?

What specific implications would your ideas have on technology? (It sounds, to me, like it ought to be a world-changing proposition, but can you fill in the details?)


(ETA: Ah, I see they merged the threads. So, ignore the first line of my last post in this thread.)

 

[ben m]

yes, missed it by a squared value.

... but before you realized that you declared:

1) It was right
2) Something else (which you thought was different but wasn't) was right
3) It was in natural units (which it wasn't)
4) I was "taking the units too seriously"
5) You had been right all along
6) It was just a typo or something ("missed it by a squared"?)

Yeah, I've seen oral exams that went kind of like that. The word "thrashing" is appropriate, but only in the intransitive, not the transitive.

 

[Singularitarian]

If anyone thinks i am replying to all of this, we can all play de-rail you know?

 

[Wowbagger]

If anyone thinks i am replying to all of this, we can all play de-rail you know?

Am I to assume you will not address issues of testability and scientific significance?

 

[Singularitarian]

Am I to assume you will not address issues of testability and scientific significance?

No, you are to assume i will not be part of posts which have intentionally nothing to do with the OP, such a derogatory poems.

 

[ben m]

yes, missed it by a squared value.

OK, so we've cleared up Nonsense Equation #1. Now, I mentioned that the first thing you did with this Equation was to multiply it by *another* nonsense equation with mismatched units. Care to fix that one? Take your time.

 

[Singularitarian]

This equation [latex]\hbar=GM^2/c^2[/latex] was the gravitational charge, and i had it noted from a published paper. Will take me a while to get them, so they must have use natural units.

You will simply have to wait till i find it.

 

[Singularitarian]

Didn't take me too long

postmetric units, human-scale Planck units G = 1.00×10-15 oc mile2 per talent2 elementary charge e = 10-23 dram (exact ... And since it is a solution of GM²=h-bar×c, the formula for it is (hbar×c/G)½ ...
www.planck.com/postmetric1.htm - Cached - Similar -

Here the equation is of the form GM=hbar c - in a different paper, the authors had rearranged the equation, in the form i presented, and they decided to translate it has the gravitationalc quantized charge.

 

[Monketi Ghost]

No, you are to assume i will not be part of posts which have intentionally nothing to do with the OP, such a derogatory poems.

But it was meant to teach you something. You like to teach, don't you? If you feel I'm wrong, why not insult me as you have so freely with other posters?

Get ready, there's someone walking over your bridge...

 

[edd]

You multiply the left by hbar (units J-s) and the left by GM/c2 (units meters)---what sense does that make? Do you really think hbar = GM/c^2? Anyway, all together that gets us to kg^2 m^2 s^-3 = m^3 s^-1 kg^-1.

Sing: there are no true equations in all of physics with mismatched units. None at all. Zero.

Lessons have not been learnt from singularitarian's statement that p=gamma mv^2 (or whatever it was - it was certainly dimensionally like that though)

 

[sol invictus]

Here the equation is of the form GM=hbar c

That equation is dimensionally inconsistent.

 

[Wowbagger]

No, you are to assume i will not be part of posts which have intentionally nothing to do with the OP, such a derogatory poems.

Your OP seems to be making a scientific claim.

Since scientists like to test their ideas, I figured I would ask how you, or Sharma, intend to get these ideas verified through testing.

Without such effort, all you have is mathematics-based philosophy, with no impact on the real world.

You disagree? You think the formulas and ideas in the OP do have an impact on the real world? Then prove it! Figure out what unique things they can predict, that conventional physics would not, then propose a test to see if they were on the right track.

 

[ben m]

Here the equation is of the form GM=hbar c - in a different paper, the authors had rearranged the equation, in the form i presented, and they decided to translate it has the gravitationalc quantized charge.

The page you linked to cites GM^2 = hbar c. (Note that the units match). That is different from GM = hbar c^2 from your essay as well as from GM = hbar c from your "correction".

 

[Ziggurat]

Here the equation is of the form GM=hbar c - in a different paper, the authors had rearranged the equation, in the form i presented, and they decided to translate it has the gravitationalc quantized charge.

Aside from the fact that you still screwed up the equation, the mass you get from the correct equation, while being uniquely defined, cannot sensibly be thought of as a quantized gravitational charge. Why? Because it's friggin HUGE. It's 2.176x10^-8 kg, or roughly 23,900,000,000,000,000,000,000 times the mass of an electron. And electrons aren't even the lightest particle we know of. Quantized gravitational charge? Nope, not even close.

 

[ben m]

Also, the quarks which make the nuclei of atoms actually have more mass than what makes the nucleus. The missing mass in this example is actually transformed into gluon energy. In this case, when the mass of quarks come together, we find the final energy to not be equivalent at all.

And I think I see where this statement is coming from. You are stating that mass is not conserved, and (via E=mc^2) claiming that therefore energy is not conserved.

Sorry: no one ever said mass was conserved. And you overlook that E=mc^2 is not generically energy, but specifically rest mass energy---so, no, "rest mass energy" is not specifically conserved.

Total energy---the sum of rest masses and kinetic energies---is perfectly conserved.

This is why I asked for the full equation for solar fusion. The initial state (p+p+p+p) has lots of rest mass energy and minimal kinetic energy. The final state (4He + 2 neutrinos + photons + kinetic energies) has exactly the same total energy, but this is now divided up between rest masses and kinetic energies.