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BigAl said:
And in the part that someone cut out "in the name of truth", Mcintyre also said:
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This is a typical twoofer trick. I am goping through the same crap with Killtown on his latest post to the Ed Schultz message board.

He took little snippets from statements by people who were at Shanksville and used them to "prove" that the wreckage was not what it should be.

Odd that they will glom onto any doofus, like Stubby, even if they have proven themselves to totally lack personal integrity, and dismiss people who were there and performed honorably, like the fire fighters who responded and, in a couple cases, actually saw the plane inbound.

Sad commentary on the mental state of the twoofers.
 
9/11-investigator said:
That's OK. I studied physics.

First year mechanics, thermodynamics, wave theory, special relativity theory.

Second year nuclear physics, quantummechanics.

Third year: studied the impact of airplane wings hitting windows. I did that for a whole year. Thousands of experiments and in all cases the windows were smashed. Trust me.

Fourth year: general relativity theory, electrodynamics.
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You should demand a refund from the institution of higher learning in question because you got gyped - assuming it was indeed "higher" learning.
 
9/11-investigator said:
That's OK. I studied physics.

First year mechanics, thermodynamics, wave theory, special relativity theory.

Second year nuclear physics, quantummechanics.

Third year: studied the impact of airplane wings hitting windows. I did that for a whole year. Thousands of experiments and in all cases the windows were smashed. Trust me.

Fourth year: general relativity theory, electrodynamics.
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Ahhh, That explains a lot.

You think that a "first year college mechanics course" is adequate to provide you the tools to analyze the likely behavior of the wing of that airplane in that collision.

You also think that the fields of "thermodynamics, wave theory, special relativity theory, nuclear physics, quantummechanics [sic], general relativity theory and electrodynamics" have one word to say about the same event...

Apparently, you were not paying attention in class.

May I ask what you have done with that training since your halcyon days?? Or perhaps, your professional background that might be considered directly related. By a sane person.

There are a LOT of undergraduate science & physics students who think that they are the only smart group of people in the world. A few years in the wide world usually disabuses them of that silly, silly notion.

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bill smith said:
Remember Jamie Mcintyre making his report live at he Pentagon ? 'Didn't look like a plane had crashed anywhere near the Pentagon ' only pieces small enough that you could pick up in your hand'. '' there are no large pieces like tail sctions, wing sections, fuselage...'

This was the clip we saw on 9/11 and the only one we saw for years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02dE5VKeck
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Bill is congenitally incapable of speaking the truth.

I'm sorry. That is wrong. That is putting the blame on his parents.

Bill has acquired, thru a life of indolence and insincerity, a casual disregard for the truth.

I have explained to bill, repeatedly, in detail, the comments of Jamie McIntyre. (And of Mike Walter).

I have shown to bill, repeatedly, in detail, how their comments were taken out of context. .

I have fetched the full transcripts showing the real comments in their real context. Repeatedly.

I have brought to him the videos of both of these reporters expressing shock and dismay that their words have been twisted & used by deceitful truthers. Repeatedly.

I have brought to him the transcripts of both of these videos. Repeatedly.

And I have done all of the above AT LEAST a half dozen times.

Because bill casually and carelessly abandons that argument when faced with a mountain of counter evidence ...

... only to bring up the same issue again. And again. And again. As though all the previous facts were suddenly irrelevant to his opportunity to make a grandiose, bombastic and completely false assertion.

One that he KNOWS is false.

Typical bill...
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For anyone with a FUNCTIONING sense of honor, or truthiness...

Here's Jamie McIntyre's definitive statement on this non-issue:

From:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/20/tt.01.html

JAMIE McINTYRE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: "There are still people who don't believe a plane really hit the Pentagon on September 11th. I was there, I saw the wreckage, I photographed it with my digital camera. One of the pictures I took shows a yellow fire hose stretched across the heliport surrounded with thousands of shards of metal from the plane. Another shows glass that appeared to be from the cockpit, and another was a part of the fuselage with the colors of American Airlines.

I was surprised to find that my own words are part of the conspiracy presentation. You can see on the Internet clips of me saying on September 11th, from my own close up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane crashing anywhere near the Pentagon. But I was answering a question, and the point I was making was about an eyewitness who thought a plane crashed near the Pentagon. I was saying no, not near the Pentagon. The only plane that crashed was at the Pentagon."

Case closed.

[Only to be pried open by ole "Shameless" at some later date...]


Tom
 
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Tom, just to make life easier: In some cases refutations to common conspiracy claims already exist, and can be pointed to. The truth behind the lie Bill told is one of them; Mike W has it written up here:
http://www.911myths.com/html/jamie_mcintyre_and_the_pentago.html

I just point this out in case you want to reduce your workload in responding to lies such as the one Bill told. You don't have to lean on previous works of course. I just point it out because it does make dealing with such lies easier, and it illustrates how dishonest truthers are to boot since the answer has been readily availalble for some time now.

Just my 2 cents.
 
ElMondoHummus said:
Tom, just to make life easier: In some cases refutations to common conspiracy claims already exist, and can be pointed to. The truth behind the lie Bill told is one of them; Mike W has it written up here:
http://www.911myths.com/html/jamie_mcintyre_and_the_pentago.html

I just point this out in case you want to reduce your workload in responding to lies such as the one Bill told. You don't have to lean on previous works of course. I just point it out because it does make dealing with such lies easier, and it illustrates how dishonest truthers are to boot since the answer has been readily availalble for some time now.

Just my 2 cents.
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Gracias, Senor Hummus,

Like most of us, I strongly suspect, I've collected my own version of definitive answers and links. And simply cut & paste. That's a big time saver.

The folks here have wised up to Bill's routine in relatively short order. I've had an almost 2 year head start on his shenanigans.

Bill is a "special" character. As such, he deserves, IMO, "special" attention.


Tom
 
tfk said:
Bill is congenitally incapable of speaking the truth.

I'm sorry. That is wrong. That is putting the blame on his parents.

Bill has acquired, thru a life of indolence and insincerity, a casual disregard for the truth.

I have explained to bill, repeatedly, in detail, the comments of Jamie McIntyre. (And of Mike Walter).

I have shown to bill, repeatedly, in detail, how their comments were taken out of context. .

I have fetched the full transcripts showing the real comments in their real context. Repeatedly.

I have brought to him the videos of both of these reporters expressing shock and dismay that their words have been twisted & used by deceitful truthers. Repeatedly.

I have brought to him the transcripts of both of these videos. Repeatedly.

And I have done all of the above AT LEAST a half dozen times.

Because bill casually and carelessly abandons that argument when faced with a mountain of counter evidence ...

... only to bring up the same issue again. And again. And again. As though all the previous facts were suddenly irrelevant to his opportunity to make a grandiose, bombastic and completely false assertion.

One that he KNOWS is false.

Typical bill...
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For anyone with a FUNCTIONING sense of honor, or truthiness...

Here's Jamie McIntyre's definitive statement on this non-issue:

From:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/20/tt.01.html

JAMIE McINTYRE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: "There are still people who don't believe a plane really hit the Pentagon on September 11th. I was there, I saw the wreckage, I photographed it with my digital camera. One of the pictures I took shows a yellow fire hose stretched across the heliport surrounded with thousands of shards of metal from the plane. Another shows glass that appeared to be from the cockpit, and another was a part of the fuselage with the colors of American Airlines.

I was surprised to find that my own words are part of the conspiracy presentation. You can see on the Internet clips of me saying on September 11th, from my own close up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane crashing anywhere near the Pentagon. But I was answering a question, and the point I was making was about an eyewitness who thought a plane crashed near the Pentagon. I was saying no, not near the Pentagon. The only plane that crashed was at the Pentagon."

Case closed.

[Only to be pried open by ole "Shameless" at some later date...]


Tom
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Yeah...i can remember tht too. This is how I heard it...

'' ....MCINTYRE: Until now, this single frame was the only image that showed the jetliner before it hit the Pentagon. And the image is so indistinct that it helped fuel conspiracy theories that abound on the Internet, despite pictures of the wreckage and eyewitness accounts.

MIKE WALTER, EYEWITNESS: I looked off. I was -- you know, looked out my window and I saw this plane, a jet, an American Airlines jet, coming. And I thought, this doesn't add up. It's really low.

MCINTYRE: The Web sites often take statements out of context, such as this exchange from CNN, in which I, myself, appear to be questioning whether a plane really hit the building.

''But from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. ''

MCINTYRE: Wolf, in fact, and I was saying that there was no plane that fell short of the Pentagon, only the one that hit the Pentagon. But don't try telling that to the conspiracy theorists -- Wolf.

BLITZER: Jamie, good report. Thank you very much. ''

Jeez....I remember how long it took me to stop laughing....lol
 
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bill smith said:
Yeah...i can remember tht too. This is how I heard it...

'' ....MCINTYRE: Until now, this single frame was the only image that showed the jetliner before it hit the Pentagon. And the image is so indistinct that it helped fuel conspiracy theories that abound on the Internet, despite pictures of the wreckage and eyewitness accounts.

MIKE WALTER, EYEWITNESS: I looked off. I was -- you know, looked out my window and I saw this plane, a jet, an American Airlines jet, coming. And I thought, this doesn't add up. It's really low.

MCINTYRE: The Web sites often take statements out of context, such as this exchange from CNN, in which I, myself, appear to be questioning whether a plane really hit the building.

''But from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. ''

MCINTYRE: Wolf, in fact, and I was saying that there was no plane that fell short of the Pentagon, only the one that hit the Pentagon. But don't try telling that to the conspiracy theorists -- Wolf.

BLITZER: Jamie, good report. Thank you very much. ''

Jeez....I remember how long it took me to stop laughing....lol
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I confess that I have developed a hearty dislike for your stupidity and dishonesty. But your confession of a serious medical problem affected me. What did your psychiatrist say about your bizarre episode of hysteria? I'm not a doctor, but I suspect that your convulsive laughter at a straightforward exchange that completely destroys the insane, irrational fantasies you are wedded to reveals a deep internal conflict. You continue to promote nonsensical falsehoods to work out crude hatreds for certain groups, but you recognize, at least on a basic level, that everything you say is wrong.
My theory would account for the delight you take in being regularly torn to shreds by people who know vastly more than you do.
 
FineWine said:
I confess that I have developed a hearty dislike for your stupidity and dishonesty. But your confession of a serious medical problem affected me. What did your psychiatrist say about your bizarre episode of hysteria? I'm not a doctor, but I suspect that your convulsive laughter at a straightforward exchange that completely destroys the insane, irrational fantasies you are wedded to reveals a deep internal conflict. You continue to promote nonsensical falsehoods to work out crude hatreds for certain groups, but you recognize, at least on a basic level, that everything you say is wrong.
My theory would account for the delight you take in being regularly torn to shreds by people who know vastly more than you do.
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I didn't say I had any kind of medical condition- ever. It is sad that you are reduced to an outright lie in a crude attempt to discredit me. If you cannot produce the post where i made the cnfession you claim then I strongly advise people on both sides of the argument to recognise you for the liar you are and to treat you accordingly. If they support you in this lie that will of course reflect strongly on themselves.
 
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bill smith said:
I didn't say I had any kind of medcal condition- ever. It is sad that you are reduced to an outright lie in a crude attempt to discredit me. If you cannot produce the post where i made the cnfession you claim then I strongly advise people on both sides of the argument to recognise you for the liar you are and treat you accordingly. If they support you in this lie that will of course reflect strongly on themselves.
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I'm afraid I don't understand. You presented a straightforward exchange between Jamie McIntyre and Wolf Blitzer that completely destroyed one of the many stupid lies you peddle and you then stated that you suffered a fit of hysteria.
I presumed that you sought psychiatric attention (if you didn't, why not?).

You should clarify the situation for us. Was your hysteria treated or not? Why did you confess to being reduced to convulsive laughter at the collapse of one of your fantasies? Do you think that the definitive exposure of another of your insane movement's lies is somehow good for you?

It's strange, yet oddly predictable, that someone who lies so compulsively and flagrantly should accuse a sane, honest person of his own worst failing.
 
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FineWine said:
I'm afraid I don't understand. You presented a straightforward exchange between Jamie McIntyre and Wolf Blitzer that completely destroyed the stupid lies you peddle and you then stated that you suffered a fit of hysteria.
I presumed that you sought psychiatric attention (if you didn't, why not?).

You should clarify the situation for us. Was your hysteria treated or not? Why did you confess to being reduced to convulsive laughter at the collapse of one of your fantasies? Do you think that the definitive exposure of another of your insane movement's lies is somehow good for you?

It's strange, yet oddly predictable, that someone who lies so compulsively and flagrantly should accuse a sane, honest person of his own worst failing.
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No...I draw the line here- I want to see that post in which you said I confessed to a serious medical condition or I want an apology. That, or people can measure you by your response.
 
bill smith said:
No...I draw the line here- I want to see that post in which you said I confessed to a serious medical condition or I want an apology. That, or people can measure you by your response.
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The post is, as you know, # 127. You (how many times will I have to repeat this?) presented an exchange between Jamie McIntyre and Wolf Blitzer that exposed and refuted a lie you promote. You then stated that you suffered a fit of hysteria. Would you care to explain, or will you run away as usual?
 
FineWine said:
The post is, as you know, # 127. You (how many times will I have to repeat this?) presented an exchange between Jamie McIntyre and Wolf Blitzer that exposed and refuted a lie you promote. You then stated that you suffered a fit of hysteria. Would you care to explain, or will you run away as usual?
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yeah whats so funny about the murder of the people on the plane or in the pentagon
i never laughed when i drove past firefighters funerals or through the "arches"
i cried (literally) every single time
i still get choked up at some videos
cant help it

did you laugh at those on TV too?

thats pretty sick man
 
FineWine said:
The post is, as you know, # 127. You (how many times will I have to repeat this?) presented an exchange between Jamie McIntyre and Wolf Blitzer that exposed and refuted a lie you promote. You then stated that you suffered a fit of hysteria. Would you care to explain, or will you run away as usual?
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So if you laugh long you have a 'serious medical condition' ? And to say you laughed long is a confession to a serious medical condition' ?

Jeez....you an Jamie both belong to the 9/11 school of semantics. lol.
 
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Justin39640 said:
try laughing at this
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=funeral 911 firefighter&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=vi

read the stories when you look at the images

disgusting
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Iwas laughing at Jamie McIntyre's revealing explanation for why he said 'there is no evidence that a plane crashed anywhere near the Pentagon' as I suspect you well know. See post #127 on this page for a full viewing of the facts,

NB. Concerned Citizens reading this exchange should watch carefully the techniques employed by the debunkers ro discredit the Truth Movement. Ask yourself why they would go to such ridiculous lengths ?
 
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bill smith said:
Iwas laughing at Jamie McIntyre's revealing explanation for why he said 'there is no evidence that a plane crashed anywhere near the Pentagon' as I suspect you well know. See post #127 on this page for a full viewing of the facts,
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Again:

MIKE WALTER, EYEWITNESS: I looked off. I was -- you know, looked out my window and I saw this plane, a jet, an American Airlines jet, coming.
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bill smith said:
No...I draw the line here- I want to see that post in which you said I confessed to a serious medical condition or I want an apology. That, or people can measure you by your response.
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We are all familiar with the drill: you tell a whopping lie; you get caught; you bluster clumsily; you get thoroughly smacked down; you run away. Nothing new here.

Although you've abandoned the field after yet another humiliation, I want to continue for a bit. You dishonestly pretended that Jamie McIntyre, a reality-based human who shares none of your idiotic delusions, lent support to the insane notion that no plane crashed into the Pentagon. In fact, he did nothing of the sort. He complained to Wolf Blitzer, a Bush-bashing liberal Democrat, that conspiracy nuts were making it appear as though he denied that AA77 hit the building. He set the record straight.

For pathological reasons, his clarification reduced you to hysteria. I would bet heavily that you didn't laugh at all--you were lying again. But, for argument's sake, let's take you at your word. What provoked your laughter? McIntyre wasn't caught in anything. You were caught promoting another falsehood, which, come to think of it, is all you do. Really. You are never right and you never tell the truth.
 
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