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This is simple the camera hallucinated! Dismissed! Next?
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Yes, that is the object of this thread.
Thanks for that, it has saved me the trouble.
The colour check in my opinion would have been better carried out as a comparison with the deflated balloon material, and not the rock. It does appear to be light as no indentations can be seen around the object in the soil. This soil is extremely fine, like the consistency of flour and takes up impressions very easily. My theory is that it just floated down gently, and therefore more likely to be balloon debris.
Yes, that is the object of this thread.
Thanks for that, it has saved me the trouble.
The colour check in my opinion would have been better carried out as a comparison with the deflated balloon material, and not the rock. It does appear to be light as no indentations can be seen around the object in the soil. This soil is extremely fine, like the consistency of flour and takes up impressions very easily. My theory is that it just floated down gently, and therefore more likely to be balloon debris.
Well, I took a look at the picture, and I couldn't tell you what that thing is.
But I can tell you I couldn't tell you what it is.
And I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say if there's anything cool to be found on mars, it's going to be something really evident, not something we find in just one blurry photo.
But I can tell you I couldn't tell you what it is.
And I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say if there's anything cool to be found on mars, it's going to be something really evident, not something we find in just one blurry photo.
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Bottle or the Gun said:
You're the one making the claim that the government would never make a statement indicating the existance of life on another planet.
A claim that I say is completely wrong for reasons I have indicated. That statement has already been made in a NASA press conference. Your claim has been falsified.
I would also like to see any proof you have of your claim of two separate data streams from the spacecraft (sorry, I missed this earlier or I would have jumped on it) or the existance of any sort of 'shadow cabinet'. I can state that no such things exist and the raw images you see are indeed the raw images. Of course, I now expect to be called part of the conspiracy
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Look at this image...
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040202a/MSPan_B1_2x-B009R1.jpg
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...very closely.
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040202a/MSPan_B1_2x-B009R1.jpg
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...very closely.
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Re: Re: Re: Strange object on Mars
also in this issue
PRINCESS DIANA IS ALIVE!
NORTH KOREAN MISSION TO THE SUN!
WHAT OUR WORLD WILL BE LIKE IN 100 YEARS!
MAN'S KIDNEY STONE IS $1 MILLION DIAMOND!
Plus Dotti, Ed Anger, The Page 5 Girl and Sonya.
ummm, didn't the Polish Space Administration land a man on the Sun back in 94?
(I'm Polish so I can make these jokes)
(ok, I'm not really Polish but let's face it, Poles probably can't read this anyway)
Yahweh said:
also in this issue
PRINCESS DIANA IS ALIVE!
NORTH KOREAN MISSION TO THE SUN!
WHAT OUR WORLD WILL BE LIKE IN 100 YEARS!
MAN'S KIDNEY STONE IS $1 MILLION DIAMOND!
Plus Dotti, Ed Anger, The Page 5 Girl and Sonya.
ummm, didn't the Polish Space Administration land a man on the Sun back in 94?
(I'm Polish so I can make these jokes)
(ok, I'm not really Polish but let's face it, Poles probably can't read this anyway)
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Re: Look at this image...
Don't hold us in suspense, that picture is huge. Is it the balloon tracks you're looking at?King of the Americas said:
Re: Re: Look at this image...
There are loads of 'rock outcrops' near the top od the photo, showing through the sandy surface. They are exactly the same colour as 'the rabbit' which is much lower down. I guess 'the rabit' is just an isolated outcrop.
Over on the right hand side of the photo, are a whole set of circular impressions in the sand, some with 'crows feet' Y shaped marks inside them. I guess these were made by the final bounces and rolls of the airbag-covered lander, before it came to a standstill.
Interesting photo.
I had a good look at it (I have broadband).Hexxenhammer said:
There are loads of 'rock outcrops' near the top od the photo, showing through the sandy surface. They are exactly the same colour as 'the rabbit' which is much lower down. I guess 'the rabit' is just an isolated outcrop.
Over on the right hand side of the photo, are a whole set of circular impressions in the sand, some with 'crows feet' Y shaped marks inside them. I guess these were made by the final bounces and rolls of the airbag-covered lander, before it came to a standstill.
Interesting photo.
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Re: Re: Look at this image...
Hex, if you shrink the picture down (so you can see the whole image) and look slightly to the right of center and about midway between the top and bottom of the photo there is a rock that resembles a insect/crab thing.
Hexxenhammer said:
Hex, if you shrink the picture down (so you can see the whole image) and look slightly to the right of center and about midway between the top and bottom of the photo there is a rock that resembles a insect/crab thing.
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AND...
...it is a different color than the other rocks in the picture.
I know it is big, just be patient, the results are incredible.
...it is a different color than the other rocks in the picture.
I know it is big, just be patient, the results are incredible.
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Re: AND...
Actually, it looks a lot like the lighter colored bedrock. I would say it's either bedrock sticking up through the sand or a chunk of bedrock broken off, either by the bouncing airbag or just natural weathering, which then rolled down to where it is now.
King of the Americas said:
Actually, it looks a lot like the lighter colored bedrock. I would say it's either bedrock sticking up through the sand or a chunk of bedrock broken off, either by the bouncing airbag or just natural weathering, which then rolled down to where it is now.
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Geez, people, have you never seen those Bugs Bunny cartoons where he goes to Mars and meets Marvin the Martian?
Ok,
- It casts a shadow (at least it seems to) on the ground that seems to correlate with the "ear", so its something "material" and not some processing glitch;
- its color is similar to the rocks on the background (nice layers, BTW), so I would bet its a rock.
- But, since its blurry, I can not escape the conclusion that its an UFO.
Ok,
- It casts a shadow (at least it seems to) on the ground that seems to correlate with the "ear", so its something "material" and not some processing glitch;
- its color is similar to the rocks on the background (nice layers, BTW), so I would bet its a rock.
- But, since its blurry, I can not escape the conclusion that its an UFO.
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To KM:
I won't say that it isn't what you suggest, but I think the ONLY evidence that you have, that it is what you say it is, is purely speculative.
It COULD be anything, and something that surely looks interesting enough to warrant further investigation.
I won't say that it isn't what you suggest, but I think the ONLY evidence that you have, that it is what you say it is, is purely speculative.
It COULD be anything, and something that surely looks interesting enough to warrant further investigation.
alfaniner
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Re: To KM:
It couldn't be a McDonald's paper bag. It couldn't be a 747. It couldn't be a piece of PVC pipe. It couldn't be my left... ear.
It could be... a rock.
King of the Americas said:
It couldn't be a McDonald's paper bag. It couldn't be a 747. It couldn't be a piece of PVC pipe. It couldn't be my left... ear.
It could be... a rock.
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It COULD...
...be the remains of an alien horned battle beetle left over from a HUGE War between the round eyed ape looking creatures, in the other images, and themselves.
Do you characterize all possible fossils as rocks in general, or just the ones on Mars that seem to demonstrate semetrical features?
Now, I am NOT say it is... I am just saying that sure looks like something 'I' want a closer look at.
...be the remains of an alien horned battle beetle left over from a HUGE War between the round eyed ape looking creatures, in the other images, and themselves.
Do you characterize all possible fossils as rocks in general, or just the ones on Mars that seem to demonstrate semetrical features?
Now, I am NOT say it is... I am just saying that sure looks like something 'I' want a closer look at.
I doubt we can rely on colour as an accurate guide.
When you find spiky things in the sand in terrestrial deserts, they are usually trace fossils of some sort.
The only non-organically caused thing that commonly has branching structure and occurs in sand deserts is a fulgurite, caused by fusing of sand into glass when lightning hits the surface. I see no reason why fulgurites could not occur on Mars.
Other chemical (ie non organic) processes also can result in cementation of material infilling cracks. If the cement is harder than the sediment around it, it may be weathered out like this.
Either that or it's a goat skull.
When you find spiky things in the sand in terrestrial deserts, they are usually trace fossils of some sort.
The only non-organically caused thing that commonly has branching structure and occurs in sand deserts is a fulgurite, caused by fusing of sand into glass when lightning hits the surface. I see no reason why fulgurites could not occur on Mars.
Other chemical (ie non organic) processes also can result in cementation of material infilling cracks. If the cement is harder than the sediment around it, it may be weathered out like this.
Either that or it's a goat skull.