Strange Light in Cologne- Germany

how do you know?
the universe is infinitely.
it is foolish to believe there was only us.

@MG1962
calm down .
 
ALIENS said:
how do you know?
the universe is infinitely.
it is foolish to believe there was only us.
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Perhaps so, but believing that other life exists in the universe, and believing in aliens (which by definition is life that has traveled here to Earth) are two very different things. So although the vastness of the universe may or may not be a legitimate reason for believing in other forms of life in other places, it also speaks against that life visiting our planet.

So I ask again: why do you believe in aliens?
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Aliens almost certainly do exist. Intelligent aliens with our level of technology or greater are much less likely to exist. Aliens which have come to Earth, or are even aware of our existence, almost certainly don't exist.
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I was speaking in terms of the object on the video only. The sort of aliens that may be responsible for the object on that video do not, for all intents and purposes, exist.

In other words, aliens is the least likely explanation for what appears on that video. There may be aliens somewhere waaaaaay out there, but the aliens the likes of which would be appearing in that video don't exist.
 
Has anybody noticed that the dog seems to be barking in English?
 
ALIENS said:
how do you know?
the universe is infinitely.
it is foolish to believe there was only us.

@MG1962
calm down .
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How do you know it's not Bigfoot riding a flying unicorn in that video? After all, the universe is infinitely. It is foolish to believe there was only us.

I believe in flying unicorn riding Bigfoot. Why not?
 
Psiload said:
How do you know it's not Bigfoot riding a flying unicorn in that video? After all, the universe is infinitely. It is foolish to believe there was only us.

I believe in flying unicorn riding Bigfoot. Why not?
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Don't be ridiculous, Bigfoot's feet are so large they would interfere with the beating of the unicorn's wings and provide too much air resistance.

Do you have any idea how much a flying unicorn hates that?
 
Stellafane said:
Perhaps so, but believing that other life exists in the universe, and believing in aliens (which by definition is life that has traveled here to Earth) are two very different things.
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You're wrong, "alien" just means that they're from another world, not that they're here. It's the same for the more local definition of "from another country". The term is more commonly used if the alien is in a country foreign to them, but it's not wrong to use it otherwise.

So, for example, I'm British and am currently residing in Britain, therefore it is entirely correct for me to describe Barack Obama as an alien, despite the fact that he is from the US and currently resides in the US.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
You're wrong, "alien" just means that they're from another world, not that they're here. It's the same for the more local definition of "from another country". The term is more commonly used if the alien is in a country foreign to them, but it's not wrong to use it otherwise.

So, for example, I'm British and am currently residing in Britain, therefore it is entirely correct for me to describe Barack Obama as an alien, despite the fact that he is from the US and currently resides in the US.
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So, then you are an alien as well. Everybody, everywhere, is an alien.

Hmmmm, how to distinguish between us aliens and them aliens from that other planet over there?

How about we call them extraterrestrials? No matter where they are.
And how to distinguish between them aliens over there and them aliens over here?
 
Psiload said:
How do you know it's not Bigfoot riding a flying unicorn in that video? After all, the universe is infinitely. It is foolish to believe there was only us.

I believe in flying unicorn riding Bigfoot. Why not?
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youre a funny guy.
do not be ridiculous about me.
I am a typical normal man.
I try to find the only answer.
there is no reason to hate me.
 
ALIENS said:
youre a funny guy.
do not be ridiculous about me.
I am a typical normal man.
I try to find the only answer.
there is no reason to hate me.
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There was absolutely no hate intended in my post. I will not apologize for any hate you may have read into my post, because that was your mistake.

Explain to me why Bigfoot on a unicorn is any more ridiculous than aliens from outer space. It seems to me that Bigfoot on a unicorn is more likely, being that they wouldn't have to cross the vast distances of space to get here, and therefore less ridiculous than interstellar-traveling aliens.
 
Psiload said:
Explain to me why Bigfoot on a unicorn is any more ridiculous than aliens from outer space. It seems to me that Bigfoot on a unicorn is more likely, being that they wouldn't have to cross the vast distances of space to get here, and therefore less ridiculous than interstellar-traveling aliens.
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That's something I think most people don't realize. Interstellar travel is probably the least reasonable idea we've ever used in fiction. The distances are so large they stop making sense. They're actually rated in the time it would take light to move that far, and so far, moving faster than light is impossible.

The farthest we could have transmitted radio is still so close that we might as well not be transmitting at all. Nothing could have found us. Nothing could have come to visit because of our transmissions.

Aliens probably do exist, but the only way they could have come here is by actual magic, not space ships.
 
ALIENS said:
We come back to the topic.Philosophy brings us not much here. :rolleyes:
its not a lamp or a ballon?or?
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What's shown in the video is nothing more than a light against a black background.

If you want a more detailed analysis, you'll have to provide some more detailed video.
 
ALIENS said:
We come back to the topic.Philosophy brings us not much here. :rolleyes:
its not a lamp or a ballon?or?

thats the vid. in my town we all realy scared.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6JGEaY3_Mw
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Hello and welcome ALIENS!

It's simply not possible to judge what is on the video. It could be anything. Any speculation would just be a wild guess with no evidence to support it.

In this forum are people who are knowledgeable about the history of UFOs in western culture, who are very familiar with famous and not so famous UFO cases over many decades. Some people here have looked into UFO cases in greater depth and more methodically than "professional" UFO researchers. You will find many people who are sincerely interested in UFOs and in identifying them.

What you won't find are many people who accept the "Extra-Terrestrial Hypothesis", that is the idea that UFOs are spacecraft from another planet. The reason that we don't accept this hypothesis is not out of knee jerk prejudice or by simply declaring "I refuse to believe!". The reason is instead that so far there has not been any convincing evidence to support that hypothesis.

I grew a science fiction fan and was a UFO enthusiast since childhood. I have seen UFO's many times. In my teens I read all the UFO accounts I could get my hands on and I believed that the evidence supported the alien spacecraft theory in cases like Roswell or the 1976 Tehran incident. I made my own files from media accounts of UFO sightings. I was open to the idea of alien abduction. I was angry that the media didn't treat the phenomenon more seriously and I thought they were overlooking the evidence. I began to research the subject more seriously, looking for whatever primary sources a teenager could turn up in his public library.

When I did so I began to find that the evidence that seemed so convincing began to melt away. So much of what was reported was hearsay, claims of artifacts and physical evidence turned out to be untrue. I began learning about the fallibilty and unreliability of eyewitnesses on any subject, especially unexpectedly seeing something they don't recognise. I found out how incredibly common misinterpretation of what we see is, even in the most ordinary circumstances. I found out about memory and it's limitations. I learned about the huge numbers of hoaxes, both simple and complicated, that fooled the most dedicated investigators.*

I came to realize that I wanted to believe in aliens. This meant that I was predisposed to trusting what I was told and not examining claims in favour of aliens as suspiciously or as thoroughly as I examined claims of "debunkers". When I realized this I had to decide if I wanted to know the truth about UFOs or if I just wanted reinforce my belief by ignoring evidence that contradicted it.

If you are serious about wanting to know what people have been seeing in your town you will need to keep a truly open mind. That means acknowledging that while it is possible that what has been seen is extra terrestrial the odds are overwhelming that it is of Earth origin. To even seriously consider that it might be extra terrestrial you should have direct evidence that is the case (perhaps physical evidence or even multiple witnesses seeing non-humans in the windows of a spacecraft.) If such evidence exists you (and we) can begin to test it and evaluate it's merits.

If direct evidence of alien origin does not exist it would be unreasonable to consider the Extra-Terrestrial Hypothesis without first eliminating any plausible ways the phenomena might be of Earth origin. And one thing that has been demonstrated in the last 60 odd years of UFO investigation is that there are huge numbers of Earthly explanations that have been proven to be the cause for amazing things people have seen .

A couple of quick anecdotes from my own experience. I have seen an incredible glowing disk fly over the car I was in on a hillside late at night. The driver stopped and got out to look for it. Another one came past - but this time we could tell it was the headlights of cars on the other side of the hill reflecting off low clouds. If we hadn't stopped at that place we would not have been able to tell. The illusion was very convincing.

Another time my flatmate and I were fooled by a glowing ball that flew erratically above the city. We watched through the glass door in our front room. It flew unlike any aircraft I had ever seen. I could not explain it. Eventually we tried to determine how fast it was moving as it swooped, spun and climbed. we tried to estimate it's distance from various landmarks and to guage it's apparent movement between them. As we watched I slowly realized that it wasn't moving at all. Even though I perceived it as jumping around the sky as soon as I compared it's position to fixed landmarks it was always in the same place. I used a marker pen on the glass door over it's position and lined it up with another mark on the coffee table in front of the couch. Sure enough, when I sat on the couch and lined up my crude "sight" the object did not move. We came to the conclusion that it was just a very bright star or planet. The thin clouds scudding across the sky created the illusion of movement and the more we focussed our eyes on an object in the sky with no landmarks around it, the more it seemed to move.


* To skeptics: this is all true dammit, it's not my fault if it sounds like I ripped it off from Demon Haunted World. :)
 
ALIENS said:
its not a lamp or a ballon
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The police said it was. They've presumably looked into the matter, and identified where it was launched and by whom.

Sky lanterns are launched as part of festivals, and by individuals celebrating a significant event (my nephew launched one at his wedding reception). It's a perfectly reasonable explanation of the light. Why are you doubting it?
 
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