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StopSylviaBrowne: "I have never nor ever will charge..."

EvilSmurf said:
Absolutely unethical, and also illegal in the State of California. If you have evidence for such a crime being committed mayhaps one should contact a law enforcement agency? It might be a good way to finally rid us of Ms. Browne.
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Ah...great idea, that. It just may work!

Thanks for all of your hard work, Rob! I still can't believe there are enough hours in a day for you to live your life, work, plus do all of this. I know you hear it all the time, but, thanks and kudos to you! :)

Oh, and did she ever get back to you about proof of her Master's degree???
 
Blue Mountain said:
Oh, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

He can't make a "stop" site for everyone in North America! :D

[/me goes and registers stopbluemountain.com, just in case.]
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What about people from other countries? Should I register a stoprjh01.com? How do I do this? I am not being paranoid because the mod thinks that robot over there is me! This goes against what Robert has said, ie do not visit there. I cannot understand why robot has not denied that him and I are the same person. Maybe he is somebody else here? I do admit I have visited the site many times.
 
PastBrowneFan said:
SB is/was concerned about ethics :jaw-dropp

Is it unethical to lie to your followers and fans, claiming that you rent a house from your son when you own more property than most people do in a lifetime, with values in the millions?

Is it unethical to call all of those who are revealing the Truth about you Evil and Dark, even though you say one can't judge the soul of another?

Is it unethical to threaten those who speak out against you with investigation by the FBI and District Attorney?

Is it unethical to try to steal a building from someone that worked untiringly for years to promote your church?

SB, and her entire "inner circle" are frauds.
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She rents a house from her son? She owns property worth millions? Do you have proof of those allegations and have you provided it to RSL?
No wonder there are no holistic centers, schools, retirement homes, etc if she has millions tied up for personal gain.

Investigation by the FBI and District Attorney? For free speech? I only thought these people were evil. If what you say here is true, then they need to be prosecuted. SSB is phenominal, but RSL can't sent these people to jail. Proof of fraud can. If you have it, please don't sit on it. Use it to put them away!

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Mr. Skinny said:
She is concerned with the ethics of revealing the name of a murderer to law enforcement authorities?
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But she's not concerned with the ethics of revealing a suspect's name before a live audience on the Montel Williams show, apparently. Here's a quote from the updated transcript re: the Shawn Hornbeck case as posted on www.stopsylviabrowne.com:

Browne: Well, I'd ask, ask around. 'Cause he doesn't live that far from where the friend is. Do you see what I mean? He wasn't a best friend, but he sort of goes in and out of the group. Because he was picked up in a--in a blue-colored sedan by a guy by the name of Michael, and the last name sounds like (censored).
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Edited to add: I've seen Robert's addendum pointing out that's unclear whether she was withholding the name from the police or the reporter. But she didn't withhold the name in this case from Montel, which tells me (as usual) that her statements are full of fertilizer (though very low-grade, cholera-causing fertilizer, at that).
 
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Another excellent article. I am so eagerly looking forward to seeing Sylvia Browne go down in flames.

One minor quibble: Possessive plurals are always fun, especially of a word or name ending in s. If the couple's name is Akers, then together they are the Akerses. Their account of the events would be "the Akerses' story".
 
wahrheit said:
:yikes: Oh noes! StopSoapySam.com is in the works?
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I cannot say at this time.

Questioninggeller said:
The original thread about this is here.
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Yes QG, I tried to acknowledge you by initials in each of the articles which were largely based on your lexisnexis mining. If you'd rather be thanks as "QuestioningGeller" or by your real name (assuming that's not it), please let me know.

A great deal of the contents of SSB consists of information already found elsewhere on the web, and this article was no exception. I'm just creating a focal point for it all.

Minarvia said:
Thanks for all of your hard work, Rob! I still can't believe there are enough hours in a day for you to live your life, work, plus do all of this. I know you hear it all the time, but, thanks and kudos to you! :)
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Life? Oh, that! :)

Thanks, Minarvia.

Oh, and did she ever get back to you about proof of her Master's degree???
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Nope. Not a peep.

Jackalgirl said:
But she's not concerned with the ethics of revealing a suspect's name before a live audience on the Montel Williams show, apparently.
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Yeah, consistency's not her thing, apparently.

Cactus Wren said:
Another excellent article. I am so eagerly looking forward to seeing Sylvia Browne go down in flames.
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Thanks, CW!

Yeah. I'm not god at possessive plurals for words ending in "s". :o

Years ago I learned that you just put the apostrophe after the "s." After I learned that was incorrect, it was already pretty firmly ingrained...
 
Mr. Skinny said:
She is concerned with the ethics of revealing the name of a murderer to law enforcement authorities? Seems to me that it is unethical to withhold that information if she is aware of it.
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I think it's called "obstruction of justice."

Of course, she doesn't know her elbow from next Thursday, so I'm going to have to hope she gets arrested for some other reason. :(
 
RSLancastr said:
Yes QG, I tried to acknowledge you by initials in each of the articles which were largely based on your lexisnexis mining.
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I was just linking to it because in the other thread "JoeTheJuggler" contacted the police department about it. See my PM regarding the other info.
 
Regarding this great and noble non-payment from police forces...
I was puzzled that the only circumstances that she claims she takes payment are in those of greatest urgency. Why would you at that point want to hinder things further, or expect payment? However, I have thought it through.

Firstly, anyone looking for any kind of information in an emergency situation will pay for it. If you don't need it immediately, you may decide not to pay. If your life (or that of another) depends on it - of course you will pay to get what you think you need. Unscrupulous detectives can undertake a similar attitude, for example.

Secondly, imagine you're a psychic - you pick up the phone and someone needs information immediately about the location of a missing child abducted that morning. How do you handle this when you have no further information to go on? You stall. How do you stall this kind of situation? After all, it will become suspicious if you just say "oh yes, I can help you, but not right now. I will speak to you again in a few hours" (... once I have had time to go google, and check the latest news reports, etc, you think to yourself.) So, you explain that you have a payment policy that must be undertaken, and you pass the caller to someone else, or agree to speak to them in a few hours after they have gone and gotten authorisation, money, transfer information, etc... while you go google.

I can see no other reason why you would insist on payment for only the most critical of cases, in terms of time.
 
I have a small request: when you publish the release I sent you, could you refer to me as "EeneyMinnieMoe"?
 
Also according to this she charges:

JOURNAL: Law Enforcement Technology
July 2004
SECTION: Vol. 31 No. 7
LENGTH: 3150 words
HEADLINE: Looking into the crystal ball
BYLINE: By Liz Martínez
HIGHLIGHT: Can using a psychic help or hinder a case?

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All three psychics agreed that the killer was someone Cardone Youssef had known. Beyond that, they were unable to come up with more helpful information.

Phyllis Cardone is keeping the case alive in the minds of New Yorkers by contacting the papers each year around the anniversary of her daughter's death. The case has now been assigned to yet another detective, and Cardone hasn't given up hope that the police will be able to solve it. She checks in with detectives on a regular basis, and she is still open to working with psychics, many of whom she learns about on television.

"We considered asking Sylvia Browne for help," Cardone says. "But she charges $175 an hour. We didn't hire her."

Psychic power: Genuine ability or parlor tricks?

Sylvia Browne is the subject of an ongoing debate about whether she is a fraud or her psychic powers are real. She has been challenged to prove her psychic abilities, with a $1 million prize as a reward. For more than three years, she has ducked the challenge. Yet, she still appears on television and is the subject of newspaper and magazine articles.
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Finding a reliable psychic

Anyone with $35 can put up a Web site and claim to be a forensic psychic. So how does a law enforcement officer separate the wheat from the chaff?
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RandFan said:
But she can't be right all of the time...
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Or any of the time, apparently.

I'd love to see this on Montel:

MOTHER: Is my son ... still with us?

BROWNE: No, he's dead.

MOTHER: (overjoyed) Oh thank God! He's alive! He's alive! Will we ever see him again?

BROWNE: No.

MOTHER: He's coming home soon!!! My baby is coming home!!!
 
Is the stop sylvia browne site against all psychics or just her? Is there anyone out there who has a 100% rate and if not, what is a qualifying rate for a psychic to have? Just wondering.
 
AnaStacia said:
Is the stop sylvia browne site against all psychics or just her? Is there anyone out there who has a 100% rate and if not, what is a qualifying rate for a psychic to have? Just wondering.
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Hi AnaStacia, thanks for posting.

I'm Robert Lancaster, the man behind the StopSylvia Browne web site.

As the name of the site implies, the site is specifically targetting Sylvia Browne. Although I do not personally know of any "true psychics," I do not claim to know that all psychics are frauds, nor would it be possible to prove even if it were true.

Here is a quaestion from the site's Frequently Asked Questions page:

Q: Why Sylvia Browne instead of some other psychic?
A: Because examining the claims of a well-known psychic will help far more people than say, examining the claims of my neighborhood palm-reader.

Also, due to her books and her many television appearances, there is a wealth of material to use when researching her claims.

Finally, I found her work with missing children to be incredibly offensive. That was the last straw which made me choose her as the focus of this site.
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AnaStacia said:
Is the stop sylvia browne site against all psychics or just her? Is there anyone out there who has a 100% rate and if not, what is a qualifying rate for a psychic to have? Just wondering.
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AnaStacia, welcome to the forum. As Robert says, to date there is no evidence that there are any "true pychics" but neither can we say that all alleged "psychics" are frauds. Given that the JREF offers a $1,000,000 prize to anyone that can demonstrate any supernatural abilities in a controlled test and that prize remains unclaimed to date, it suggests that psychical ability is much rarer than what may be supposed.
 
AnaStacia said:
Is there anyone out there who has a 100% rate and if not, what is a qualifying rate for a psychic to have? Just wondering.
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No "psychic" has a 100% rating, if you find there is one it will be international, headline news and change our understanding of science.

To demonstrate a paranormal ability you must beat odds repeatedly. For example, if someone claims they can predict what side of a coin will appear they should be able to pick it correctly, say, MORE than 500 times out of 1000 coin flips then do it again.

If they can do that, and are willing to be tested they can win one million dollars from James Randi. That is why the JREF was created.
 
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