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StopSylviaBrowne: George Noory Doubts Browne's Abilities

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I received an email this evening stating that on the the Tuesday March 20 2007 broadcast of the Coast to Coast AM radio show, at about 10:53 PM (PST time), a caller asked host George Noory if he had ever heard of a woman named Sylvia Browne.

According to this email, Noory said that he had interviewed her many times in the past, but had not done so lately, because he had lost faith in her abilities, and then went on to talk about her Sago Mining Disaster and Shawn Hornbeck mistakes.

Assuming this email is accurate:

1. Bravo, George Noory! and

2. Is there anyone here who has a "streamlink" account at the Coast to Coast AM web site and can shoot me the audio of this phone call, so I can put it (and/or a transcript) into an article?
 
Hi, Robert. While I can't supply you with an audio clip of that show I can somewhat confirm Noory's thoughts. A little after the Hornbeck fiasco occured he had a guest on the show and he mentioned Sylvia Browne very briefly to her (the guest). He said (I'm paraphrasing), "Oh, you haven't heard about this? A few years ago we had her on the show and she claimed the miners would be "found". I naturally assumed she meant found alive but then it turns out they were all dead except for one."

He didn't outright say he didn't believe she was psychic, but there was definitely doubt in his voice.

Unfortunately I'm a very, very casual listener of Coast to Coast so I didn't catch that show on March 20th.
 
Regardless, it's good news.

But my impression of Noory is that he is a true believer, unlike Art Bell who, imo, isn't a believer at all but is good at hosting a believer radio show for fun and profit.
 
Be careful where you put your eggs Robert.
You should listen to that host Noory before you give his opinion
too much weight. I believe his show is pretty kooky, and he is pretty credulous.
 
RSLancastr said:
I received an email this evening stating that on the the Tuesday March 20 2007 broadcast of the Coast to Coast AM radio show, at about 10:53 PM (PST time), a caller asked host George Noory if he had ever heard of a woman named Sylvia Browne.

According to this email, Noory said that he had interviewed her many times in the past, but had not done so lately, because he had lost faith in her abilities, and then went on to talk about her Sago Mining Disaster and Shawn Hornbeck mistakes.

Assuming this email is accurate:

1. Bravo, George Noory! and

2. Is there anyone here who has a "streamlink" account at the Coast to Coast AM web site and can shoot me the audio of this phone call, so I can put it (and/or a transcript) into an article?
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I don't think its a good idea to make an article on what one woo thinks. While he might be right about Browne he has little credbility in opinions of the "paranormal". Noory blows with the wind.
 
Mostly OT:

I caught about 10 seconds of her appearance on Montel today. Apparently she was "helping" someone find out who murdered her daughter. The point was that there ought to have been plenty of witnesses (I think), and Sylvia was chiming in to say how selfish we Americans are because crimes happen and eyewitnesses won't come forward.

She said that she knows this because she works with the police so much, but then quickly went on to talk about one of the tabloid TV shows (A Current Affair IIRC) where they planted actors to play out an adult verbally abusing a child in public to see whether people would intervene. (Very scientific--and the results were that some people intervened and some didn't--though they showed lots more footage of people NOT intervening.)

So someone who works with police all the time gets her inside info from one of these shows?
 
pspaddict said:
Hi, Robert. While I can't supply you with an audio clip of that show I can somewhat confirm Noory's thoughts.
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Thanks, pspa. Yes, others told me of this when it happened.

Beady said:
Even if Noory does doubt Silvia's abilities, that doesn't necessarily mean he doubts, say, John Edward's.
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One at a time, Beady. One at a time.

Garrette said:
Regardless, it's good news.
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Yup.

But my impression of Noory is that he is a true believer, unlike Art Bell who, imo, isn't a believer at all but is good at hosting a believer radio show for fun and profit.
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Noory certainly gives that impression.

Cleon said:
Baby steps, Beady. Baby steps.
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Agreed.

pchams said:
Be careful where you put your eggs Robert.
You should listen to that host Noory before you give his opinion
too much weight. I believe his show is pretty kooky, and he is pretty credulous.
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Believe me pchams, I know presisely how kooky his show is, and how credulous he seems.

Questioninggeller said:
I don't think its a good idea to make an article on what one woo thinks. While he might be right about Browne he has little credbility in opinions of the "paranormal".
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Not to a lot of people.

If nothing more than a follow-up to the Sago Mining Disaster article, this is something which belongs on the SSB site. But even without that, when one of the nation's biggest supporters of this type of thing acknowledges his doubt in her, that is something to comment on. I am not going to site him as an expert on who is and who is not psychic, but as a supporter of all things psychic, and a former supporter of Browne.
 
RSLancastr said:
Not to a lot of people.

If nothing more than a follow-up to the Sago Mining Disaster article, this is something which belongs on the SSB site. But even without that, when one of the nation's biggest supporters of this type of thing acknowledges his doubt in her, that is something to comment on. I am not going to site him as an expert on who is and who is not psychic, but as a supporter of all things psychic, and a former supporter of Browne.
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Its just Noory's opinion means little to nothing to the majority of people. Just because one believes in psychics doesn't mean they think Noory is to be taken serious. The more fact based events the better. Like, you could bring up this event:

The Associated Press State & Local Wire

September 23, 1999, Thursday, AM cycle

SECTION: State and Regional

LENGTH: 1004 words

HEADLINE: Briefs from Lexington, Brooksville

DATELINE: LEXINGTON. Ky.

BROOKSVILLE, Ky. (AP) - The mother of a man who killed himself filed a federal lawsuit alleging that television talk show host Montel Williams cast her son in an unfavorable light during a program featuring a psychic commenting on a missing Bracken County teen-ager.

Linda Marie Mineer, in a lawsuit filed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Covington, sued Williams, three producers of his show, Paramount Pictures and Viacom Inc., which produce and distribute the show, and psychic Sylvia Browne, frequent guest on the show.

Ms. Mineer is administrator of the estate of her son, Christopher Dean Mineer, 28, of Brooksville.

Police said Mineer, a landscaping and concrete worker, shot and killed his girlfriend, Carmen Jett Moorhead, 24, on Sept. 25, 1998, and then killed himself.
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Scott said last year that Mineer's death apparently had nothing to do with Miss Fraysure's disappearance.

Ms. Mineer said in her lawsuit that Williams' shows cast her son in an unfavorable light and invaded his privacy.

The lawsuit said a show that was broadcast on Sept. 24, 1998, featured Ms. Browne, the psychic, who gave Miss Fraysure's mother, Maggie Doherty, information about her daughter's disappearance.

Ms. Doherty later told The Post that Ms. Browne said a man who was in prison last year killed Erica and dumped her body in a lake not far from where Erica's car was found.
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The lawsuit said Williams referred to Mineer in another show that was broadcast after Mineer killed himself,

A spokesman for Williams in New York on Wednesday declined comment.

Police said Mineer, a landscaping and concrete worker, shot and killed his girlfriend, Carmen Jett Moorhead, 24, on Sept. 25, 1998, and then killed himself.
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Itsays something that Noory has listened uncritically to people saying that they've travelled into/back from the future to give warnings about ethereal spirit dangers that only they can see, yet finds Browne somewhat dubious.

Ouch.
 
RSLancastr said:
Yes, I already have material on this one. It is, I believe, the reason names are now bleeped out of Browne's readings on the show.
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Avid followers of Sylvia probably watch her on Montel every single time she is on. I would think that by the sudden bleeping out of stuff that used to be revealed would tell them that the new procedure is in place for a very good reason. But, really, I don't think even that would make them stop and question. Perhaps those who watch her out of curiousity will think on this and see that they should look into Sylvia's self-professed abilities further.

And again, I wonder what Montel thinks.
 
In the case of Noory, it's not that he's suddenly come to his senses, it's more like he's a rat deserting a sinking ship. The Anderson Cooper episode cast doubt in the minds of many about SB. Noory would rather back a less controversial figure.
 
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RSLancastr, in case you missed my PM, I think I can get you a copy of that show from a buddy of mine with a Coast to Coast streamlink account. Let me know if you still need it, and I'll shoot him an e-mail.
 
I think I can get it from Streamlink, my father has an ID, he loves the woo woo stuff, but knows that its crap.
 
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