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RSLan. I want to point out that your little "Sylvia sign" thing really doesn't look like Sylvia brownes hand at all. The first time I saw it I thought it might be a bad drawing of Wolverine's hand from the X-men or something. I think you should probably re-do it to make it look clearly like Sylvia's hand or either choose a new symbol.

I can see how you think that. Personally, I thought of Sylvia right away. Every time I see her on Montel she's always waving those nails around and picking at her teeth with them. Ewww. Almost all I can look at is those nails and teeth. They distract me horribly.
But they DO sort of look like Wolverine, I agree.
 
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Would scare too many people away.
 
RSLan. I want to point out that your little "Sylvia sign" thing really doesn't look like Sylvia brownes hand at all.
Dustin, thanks for the input, but it is not meant to be an accurate rendition of her hand. It is an intentionally cartoonish version of a certain type of stop sign with a hand in it (an example of which can be seen in this picture, with exaggerated long nails added. I have received lots of positive comments on it, both from skeptics and from a few Browne fans. Anyone who knows much about Browne knows what it represents.

Sorry you don't like it, but for now, it will stay as it is.

I can see how you think that. Personally, I thought of Sylvia right away. Every time I see her on Montel she's always waving those nails around and picking at her teeth with them. Ewww. Almost all I can look at is those nails and teeth. They distract me horribly.
But they DO sort of look like Wolverine, I agree.
Well, I can reuse it when I start my StopHughJackman.com site. :)

Would scare too many people away.
Naughty, naughty Chadd.

And actually, I considered an image like that, with a silhouette of Browne in the center, but rejected it for numerous reasons.
 
How about this one?? Today is the first time I ever visited SB's site, and the home page picture made me think -- she looks very familiar, kind of reminds me of good times, when I was younger, very young... and then I realized---


















she's the spitting image of Mrs. Potato Head!!!.









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Two months after www.StopSylviaBrowne.com. comes on line Sylvia is bleeding all over the place. I am sure she has made similar mistakes in the past. The difference this time is Robert's website.

The only question left to answer is can she recover? Or will alfaniner be shown to be a pessimist?

I predict that Sylvia will capitulate on March 23, 2007. She will announce her "retirement", citing wanting to spend more time with her family, and that so many years of being a psychic has taken a toll on her health. She will plan to read more, and enjoy music, and only occasionally assist her son with the empire.

Forecast made on 18 December 2006
 
Gotta love all the talks about Sylvia's looks. Don't be fooled by self proclaimed rational people who claim they are above that sort of fallacy stuff. ;)
 
Gotta love all the talks about Sylvia's looks. Don't be fooled by self proclaimed rational people who claim they are above that sort of fallacy stuff.

Picking on someone isn't a fallacy. It would only be a fallacy if I were to say something like, "Sylvia Browne looks like a close relative of Jabba the Hut, therefore she is not a psychic."

And I know that statement is a fallacy because Jabba clearly demonstrated his psychic ability when he deflected Luke's Jedi mind trick.
 
Gotta love all the talks about Sylvia's looks. Don't be fooled by self proclaimed rational people who claim they are above that sort of fallacy stuff. ;)
If you pull that stick out of there, you'll probably be a lot more comfortable when you sit down, T'ai Chi.
 
I suggest you learn what constitutes this particular fallacy, then.
(http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/skepticism/blfaq_fall_abusive.htm)

A group of critical thinkers...critically thinking about insulting someone's looks because they don't like them, instead of focusing on any logic.

The new skepticism at its finest? ;)

I've bolded the most relevant parts in the following:

Argumentum ad hominem
This is a fallacy we studied before but it bears repeating, not least because it's perhaps the most frequently charged and least understood, in spite of its relative simplicity. Consider the following example:
You say that the conservatives' tax plans would leave the health service under-funded, but you're a liberal and would get rid of health care altogether.
Now, whether or not the characterization of the so-called liberal's beliefs is accurate (that question will be asked when we look at another fallacy to come), the point is that it isn't relevant: either the plans really will leave the health service under-funded or they won't (or, perhaps, the situation may be considerably more complex), but the political persuasion of the person making that criticism doesn't impact on the claim itself. That means that the complaint against the liberal is against him or her, not the claim; and that is what the Latin phrase means: an argument against the man (or woman—more accurately, "argument to the person"), rather than an actual counter-argument. In general, there are three kinds of ad hominem:
  • Abusive—the person is attacked instead of their argument
  • Circumstantial—the person's circumstances in making the argument are discussed instead of the argument itself
  • Tu Quoque—the person is said to not practice what he or she preaches
Notice what the ad hominem is not: it doesn't say that the political beliefs of the liberal don't motivate his or her criticism in the first place, or that he or she wouldn't want to remove health care altogether (although it doesn't seem likely), but only that these things are not relevant to the point at issue. For this reason it is usually grouped as one of the fallacies of relevance. It also is not equivalent to an insult, as many people seem to suppose.
Consider now some other examples:
Some politicians claim we should raise taxes, but they are just greedy opportunists trying to gain more of our money to spend on themselves.
This is an ad hominem abusive, since it attacks a (perceived) quality of the claimant(s) instead of the claim itself. It has the form:
P1: A claims B;
P2: A is a C;
C: Therefore, B is false.
You say we should lower taxes, but you are living beyond your means and so you would be expected to say that.


Argumentum ad hominem (argument directed at the person). This is the error of attacking the character or motives of a person who has stated an idea, rather than the idea itself. The most obvious example of this fallacy is when one debater maligns the character of another debater (e.g, "The members of the opposition are a couple of fascists!"), but this is actually not that common. A more typical manifestation of argumentum ad hominem is attacking a source of information -- for example, responding to a quotation from Richard Nixon on the subject of free trade with China by saying, "We all know Nixon was a liar and a cheat, so why should we believe anything he says?" Argumentum ad hominem also occurs when someone's arguments are discounted merely because they stand to benefit from the policy they advocate -- such as Bill Gates arguing against antitrust, rich people arguing for lower taxes, white people arguing against affirmative action, minorities arguing for affirmative action, etc. In all of these cases, the relevant question is not who makes the argument, but whether the argument is valid. It is always bad form to use the fallacy of argumentum ad hominem. But there are some cases when it is not really a fallacy, such as when one needs to evaluate the truth of factual statements (as opposed to lines of argument or statements of value) made by interested parties. If someone has an incentive to lie about something, then it would be naive to accept his statements about that subject without question. It is also possible to restate many ad hominem arguments so as to redirect them toward ideas rather than people, such as by replacing "My opponents are fascists" with "My opponents' arguments are fascist."


Argumentum ad hominem is not a matter of attacking a person, but attacking the person and claiming that debunks their claim. Please demonstrate which post claims that S. Browne isn't psychic because she looks like a troll.
 
I think we should stay away from the fact the Sylvia is ugly. Although it's true that there was no explicit ad hominem stated, it is not surprising that someone would infer that from the context. Sure, there is a kind of poetic justice ("ugly on the outside as well!") but it isn't relevant.

At least RSLancaster and StopSylviaBrowne need to stay away from Sylvia's looks. The rest of us on a message board can insult at will, but I personally would like to see the general insult fest kept separate from discussion of her crimes.
 
A group of critical thinkers...critically thinking about insulting someone's looks because they don't like them, instead of focusing on any logic.

The new skepticism at its finest?

Actually it's called "having a sense of humor," which is neither here nor there on skepticism.

I do agree with ChristineR that those types of attacks would not be appropriate on RSLancaster's site, since it is a serious debunking of Ms. Browne. But this is a forum where anyone can post, and last I checked, joking is allowed. Maybe the posts about that belong in the entertainment section or some such instead of here. But that's up to moderators, and not me.

Also, what delphi_ote said.
 
At least RSLancaster and StopSylviaBrowne need to stay away from Sylvia's looks. The rest of us on a message board can insult at will, but I personally would like to see the general insult fest kept separate from discussion of her crimes.
You will find no comments about Browne's looks on my web site. I don't care what the woman looks like. I care about what she does.
 

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